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High Priest
04-12-2005, 22:24
Is this set the best end game outfit for a p/summon Necro?

Priest

Bordillo
05-12-2005, 01:18
no my ideal set up would be
Upd Undead crown
Enigma(stack minions)
Boneflame or homonoculus
Arm of king leoric
Arachnids mesh
soj, soj
Maras or +3 summon ammy with resists
Marrowwalks
Trang gloves
9x summon charms
anni,torch

Evrae Altana
05-12-2005, 01:42
no my ideal set up would be
Upd Undead crown
Enigma(stack minions)
Boneflame or homonoculus
Arm of king leoric
Arachnids mesh
soj, soj
Maras or +3 summon ammy with resists
Marrowwalks
Trang gloves
9x summon charms
anni,torch
Shako > Undead Crown

Since the OP wanted a poison/summon hybrid, you should focus more on poison damage and let the summons tank for you while you cast from afar.

+3 summon ammy with resists? Good luck getting that thing. :uhhuh:

Cdnexpat
05-12-2005, 01:55
No, but it is very good. You would really have to get a lot of expensive gear to do better. Go max block, get trangs set, make your expensive gear a D-web, walk everywhere... you'll love it.

I would also recommend AoKL and a spare wing/+3 RS +X SMastery head on switch.

elmek
06-12-2005, 11:52
Agreed, the ideal setup would look something like this imo:
Shako
Enigma
Death's web 48+/2/2 -- AoKL on switch
Trangs wing -- Boneflame +3 or wing/+3 RS +X SMastery head on switch
Trang belt
2 sojs
Maras
Marrowwalks
Trang gloves

High Priest
06-12-2005, 14:02
Thanks for the tips!

:clap:

Cdnexpat
07-12-2005, 02:46
I would add insight to your merc as well. But really, if you are just going to be doing the pits, Trangs set is fine, you would be better to get PnB skillers than to get Enigma (IMO). If he is going to be your character for all things hard then of course the elite gear is nice.

elmek
07-12-2005, 23:02
I would add insight to your merc as well. But really, if you are just going to be doing the pits, Trangs set is fine, you would be better to get PnB skillers than to get Enigma (IMO). If he is going to be your character for all things hard then of course the elite gear is nice.

I never had problems with mana while using Death's web because of the sweet mod +7-12 mana/kill. I'd swap insight for some nice Pride polearm for example to boost skellies or some other weapon with cb (e.g. obedience). Teleport is also vital when you have minions wandering around.
-elmek

Cdnexpat
08-12-2005, 01:38
I've had mana problems running nilh (sp) when my merc goes down and I am spamming CE. Though now that I think about it I have never had problems in the pits. Pride seem like a waste though given that the skellies are so weak (relative to a pure summoner). Perhaps I'm off topic as I'm thinking of good enough gear as opposed to ideal gear.

elmek
08-12-2005, 07:50
I've had mana problems running nilh (sp) when my merc goes down and I am spamming CE. Though now that I think about it I have never had problems in the pits. Pride seem like a waste though given that the skellies are so weak (relative to a pure summoner). Perhaps I'm off topic as I'm thinking of good enough gear as opposed to ideal gear.

When you're heavily using CE, then perhaps insight is the option. But if you're going to run only pits/trav/CS or anything else without 120% poison immunes, you won't need it as pnova deals with everything.

Myrakh-2
08-12-2005, 08:13
Is this set the best end game outfit for a p/summon Necro?

Trangs is certainly ONE OF the best; depends a bit on your requirements and what else you have available.

It basically gives everything you need --- huge resistances, even some physical, movement speed, cannot be frozen, an effective fire attack, mana and life (including regeneration, which I always find very useful for ranged chars since you'll automatically heal those little wounds from stray shots hitting you), some +skills. For people using poison it also helps with poison damage.

The +skills department isn't the best in the 'verse (+5 on all trees; with Viper, Maras and Homunculus you get +5 as well with only 3 item slots used --- and it even gives a nice resistance boost --- but Maras costs more than the full trangs set), but you can get along since you almost don't need anything else on your other items --- so instead of Maras, which gives only +2, you can use a +3 amulet for your primary skill tree (and it's cheaper, too :-))

On the other hand, replacing Trangs Armor (and another items besides shield and gloves --- IMHO there are only three Trag setups: Armor only for skelemancers, full Trangs for Skelemancers or Poisonmancers, 3-piece Trangs with shield, gloves + something for Poisonmancers), with Bramble on a poisonmancer ups poison damage even more --- but Bramble is expensive (even dupes are costly), and you loose the set bonus, so you'll have to carefully select your other items.