Does CM and TS stack?

[zacha]

Does CM and TS stack?
And if they do which is the order?
weapon => weapon enchantment => CM => TS?
Because if they don't stack doesn't CM get pretty useless with it small damage modifiers against TS or does it still serve a purpose?
thanks for the help =)

And yes. I did use the search function but I didn't find anything there.

(and hi, finally i got registred)

[ilkori]

Welcome do dii.net.

First of all, it depends on what attack you are doing. So long as your attack is with a claw, the modifiers add. For example, with a 300% ED TS and a 100% ED CM, your damage would essentially be this:

Damage = WeaponDamage * (100 + 300 + 100 + OtherED)/100

The first 100 is to account for the damage of the weapon, then the Tiger Strike, then Claw Mastery, then everything else (extra auras, str/dex bonus, etc.).


Now, the question is usually, "Why bother with Tiger Strike?" Tiger Strike must be charged to get any ED out of it. Even at best, it is near useless with claw attacks (particularly Dragon Claw), but shines with Dragon Tail (where the fire damage does multiply).

The other great things about CM are the AR bonus and the Crit Strike chances.

[zacha]

Thanks for the answers =)

Yep, I'm using (and will be using) a claw so CM is is pretty useful therefore.

And with the fact I'm building a DTail kicker I probably will invest 20 in TS, CM and DTail and then see what skills I want after that. Or is any of those skill investments useless?

another question, is it worth it to invest in the traptree to get deathsentry and how many levels should you get there if so?

[ilkori]

Ah, the one build I'm not very familiar with. Personally, I would suggest reading the guide in the Strategy Compendium. From what I understand, a large investment in Claw Mastery is generally wasted on this build, but TS/DTail should be maxed.

Since the damage of this build is already Physical/Fire, I wouldn't make a huge investment into Death Sentry (unless you also maxed Lightning Sentry). On the other hand I would definitely put one point into that and Blade Fury without question. I find those skills far to useful to skip out on.

[zacha]

Yeah... will probably skip CM, all the guides all over the web have convinced me =)
And I didn't think about the firepart... maybe I should skip deathsentry and go into phoenix striker... would that work?

[Naliworld]

Yeah... will probably skip CM, all the guides all over the web have convinced me =)
And I didn't think about the firepart... maybe I should skip deathsentry and go into phoenix striker... would that work?

You could still stick with DS but place any further points in LS and its synergies for extra Lightning damage, if you're keen on the Trap route. However, without a fair bit of +skills the Traps won't do a whole lot of damage in Hell, given 40 points are already gone after TS/DTail.

PS also works, and is a more viable option for a TS/DTailer IMO, given your budget is not unlimited. You could either go Max PS/Rest in CoT, or Max CoT/Rest in PS(CoT and PS's 2nd charge work a little differently, you should experiment and see which you prefer). I would not recommend the Cold route(Max PS/Rest in BoI) unless you like a challenge. Though PS's 3rd charge is useful for pinning down groups of enemies, it doesn't do a lot of damage even when synergized with BoI.