PNB PVP Questions

[Blind568]

I'm currently making a PVP PNB necro to try out. Here is my plan for him:

Skills:
20 Bone Spirit
20 Bone Spear
20 Teeth
1 Decrepify
20 Bone Prison
Rest into Bonewall

I plan on getting him to around 90. I think I am going to make him a max block Necro instead of a vitality necro, because I figure 75% blocking is bette than an extra 400-500 life, since if I have 2000 life, 75% blocking makes me *sort of* have 8k life versus attacks I can block (assuming I actually block them 75% of the time).

For items, I have the following in mind:

Breastplate Enigma (I'm not putting any points into str... I'll use annihilus and a necro torch)
Heart of the Oak
Homunculus (With max block)
Arachs Belt
Rare +2 necro skills circlet, 20FCR with any other mods I can get
Rare or crafted +2 skills amulet with FCR and hopefully resists.
Trang Gloves
2 Rare FCR Rings with +mana/resists

This will give me At least 125FCR to reach the highest breakpoint, as well as +13 to all skills. I'll load up on FHR charms and PNB charms to compliment my torch and annihilus. Overall hopefully I can get my Bonespirit and Bone Spear up to about 45 each.

Now for my questions... does this setup look alright? Are there any other gear or skills people suggest I look into? Also, for dex versus vitality, are there any facts I'm overlooking? It seems like pure vitality is kind of a waste since you will only get a few hundred extra HP, but no blocking. Blocking seems much more useful.

Also as a bonemancer, what PVP classes are the most challenging for you? It seems like fightning melees will be a complete joke with the combination of decrepify, bone prison, and spirit/spear. What are the hardest classes to fight as a necro?

Thanks for any help.

[natural disastr]

your set-up is fine. You should switch to mp enigma cause the +stats on anni and torch bring you to 55 strength. My nec has 5 in armor and rest in wall instead of just rest in wall. ~190ish dext rest vita. (my setup) 0 energy 0 strength. toughest classes? sorcs are a bit tough cause of there fast cast. lightning is espicially annoying cause of t-storm. The spirit is too slow to track tele and spear is kinda hard to hit. I suggest teeth. Low damage but hits slowly but surely. BvC barbs are terribly difficult. They have tons of health and with that set-up you'll be at 4-5k MAX at lvl 99. Using grief, they can really cut your health and cause ww hits so many times, your block wont block everything. try to get hit recovery against these guys. IMHO taughest duel. FOHers can be seriously nasty. try not to get hit cause it will lock you for like 2 secs and you cant cast anything. against my ~3k health (I team duel with my bro bvc barb HIGH LVL BO!!!! WOOT) they kill me in 3-4 shots. Nasty stuff. A Natural original strat against FoHers: cast bone prison on them, their "auto lock" will target the prison and they will take time to cast. Use this moment to cast spirit. Rinse and repeat. On slow target/prison strats check my post in the "What All Does Bonewall Block (PVP)" thread. HOpe this helps.

Edit: the bone prison strat will NOT work if they actually lock you name. Keep tele-ing untill they cast. DOnt rush the process. Also against bvc barbs, be sure to stack on fasster block rate cause it will greatly increase your live rate (block more shots) cause they attack so fast that you have to block so fast

[nickedoff]

More than one into bone armor is a big waste.

Beware that Decrepify has pre-requisites.

Sorcs are a piece of cake as long as they don't get too close to you with orb.

[RetroStar]

Now for my questions... does this setup look alright? Are there any other gear or skills people suggest I look into? Also, for dex versus vitality, are there any facts I'm overlooking? It seems like pure vitality is kind of a waste since you will only get a few hundred extra HP, but no blocking. Blocking seems much more useful.

Also as a bonemancer, what PVP classes are the most challenging for you? It seems like fightning melees will be a complete joke with the combination of decrepify, bone prison, and spirit/spear. What are the hardest classes to fight as a necro?

Thanks for any help.

1) Have equip with higher life and DR in stash (shako/bks/etc) for slower tele opponents. 125% is really needed in vs. necro/sorc/bvc baba/etc.

2) don't think melee is a joke, once you duel bvc babas, they may be one of the hardest head on opponents you'll have. with 7klife/20%fcr tele/leap stuns

3) sorcs are not easy. with them always teleing 1 or 2 frame higher than you, it is very hard to kill them with spear that is hard to aim and spirit that doesn't track teleing chars very well.

4) toughest duels imo would be bvcs/sorcs/another bone necro/wind druid (hurricane stuns you)

5) for fohers, stay off their screen or they will be able to foh you. bone armour will be able to take some hits. shoot spears in their direction and force them to play offnsive on you. then launch spirits on to them. fohers generally have crap fcr for tele (if they even tele) so staying off their screen won't be hard. though watch out for desync charging fohers. lay bone spirit traps in their direction when the charge you.

[nickedoff]

sorcs are not easy. with them always teleing 1 or 2 frame higher than you, it is very hard to kill them with spear that is hard to aim and spirit that doesn't track teleing chars very well.

Which is why we have teeth.

bone armour will be able to take some hits.
Barmor won't do anything vs FOH unless they decide to charge you like idiots.

toughest...wind druid

Wind druids are -very- hard to kill with bone necros unless you're a long way off and can spam spirits. They'll always try to land directly onto you and screw up your nec's FHR.

[natural disastr]

spirits = VERYVERYVERY bad idea against windies. It will hit their MINIONS even if you namelock them. Strat? Use spear hits the windy and his minions. Teeth is a good substitute if you can't hit 'em. Best advantage over windies? their cyclone armor will NOT sorb magic damage

[RetroStar]

Which is why we have teeth.


Barmor won't do anything vs FOH unless they decide to charge you like idiots.



Wind druids are -very- hard to kill with bone necros unless you're a long way off and can spam spirits. They'll always try to land directly onto you and screw up your nec's FHR.

Teeth definately helps but what's the chance teeth which has a short radius will hit a 200%fcr sorc that outranges your teeth. Also sorcs also utilize ES, good luck taking that down.

Fully synergized bone armour will absorb a few hits, not 'won't do anything'. FoH is a one to two hit kill without armour.

[nickedoff]

...You're saying that bone armor absorbs FoH. That doesn't make any sense, but I guess I'll have to try it tonight.