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Full_Circle
27-11-2005, 00:56
So, I'm looking for duel games, and I see a game called "wtahc us duel" with a level 50ish enchantress and a 58 necromancer, plus a few other lower levels. Obviously townkillers -.-
So I join with my 31 Kicker and the enchantress predictably hostiles me. I run right out and try to kill her, but she manages to evade me and get back to town. She leaves and comes back with a level 91 Sorceress. I run around until I get a good look at her... and I see... Full Tal's... and The WARD for a shield. Charger time...
I exit, come back with my charger (concentration scepter up as a fake), and hostile. He heads outside town, and I go out after him. I switch when he's at the edge of my screen, and unload two back-to-back charges on him.
Game Over :lol:
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/1688/screenshot0373ti.jpg
oMG u Keeled my SoRK! FTW!!!
Nice kill treb, glad to see Driftwood getting some action
ZOMG eth elder insight charger.....i've been haxed!
nice peekay~ i r skarred :clap:
PhatTrumpet
27-11-2005, 02:09
You should've told the guy what your gear was (assuming he didn't scan you). As if losing our 91 Sorc to a 50-something Pally wasn't humiliating enough... :lol:
Full_Circle
27-11-2005, 02:47
ZOMG eth elder insight charger.....i've been haxed!
ya, special thanks to azazaz for leaking enough of his build for me to make an at least functional version of it. :thumbsup:
All sorcies must bow to the lvl 55 elder staff pally!
I think my fav kill was against a 97 blizz sorc....unfortunately her merc was loaded with die facets so i popped her, he popped me, double kill ahhhh!
TheDarkSide
27-11-2005, 14:40
looks like she got - JAcked Up !!!!!
:teeth:
I love it, stuff like this shows me diablo never gets old because there's always something new and innovative to build:)
sonikki_
28-11-2005, 09:19
Would'nt eth tresher with obidience do mucho more dmg? and why the conc scepter, isnt conc prereq to fana witch you use at high lvl chargers ? :O
PhatTrumpet
28-11-2005, 14:18
'Obedience' Thresher has higher max dmg, but it gets its arse kicked in min damage and average damage. Plus it doesn't have the ridiculously low reqs that the staff does. And look at his damage window... you don't need to surprise your opponent with a high dmg roll when you do ~1.2k min after PvP penalty.
As for the Conc scepter... maybe he wanted to look like a Hammerdin?
Full_Circle
28-11-2005, 14:40
Would'nt eth tresher with obidience do mucho more dmg? and why the conc scepter, isnt conc prereq to fana witch you use at high lvl chargers ? :O
The Eth Obedience Thresher would do a lot more MAX damage. The selling point on this build is the MIN damage... guaranteed 1.25k pvp (before dr) on any successful hit isn't bad at all. It's also a base strength & base dex build, giving me a lot of life with mediocre charms. Lastly... @55, you have enough skills to max Vigor, Charge, Might, take 1 in all pre-reqs, and have 2 skills left over (I dumped them in Salvation). It takes a few more levels to get to the point where Fanaticism is worth taking over straight might/synergy.
When hunting sorcs with a 55, having 1.2k minimum guaranteed is a sweet deal. Auto-kill on almost any weaker sorc, and if you roll a critical well i mean there ya go.
Before I switched to the elder staff I used to use eth helly on this build in 1.09, it was what you suggest with obedience thresher. At 66 the helly would be pullying about 1k dmg on the wpn so the charge would be something like 600 - 18k. 18k, beautiful number, 600....not so beautiful. With a 100 - 3k pvp possibility, you're getting an average hit of about 1.5k with no critical. with 1.2k - 1.5kish you're getting a little less on the average, you lose out on that monster blow of 3k, but you guarantee that every hit counts. And if you roll a sexy critical on a sexy hit, well that 3k now becomes a reality with a 2.4k minimum.
As mentioned before the extra stat points are always lovely.
I always used a conc scepter on this build to come off as a hammerdin. Who's afraid of a little 55 hammerdin anyways :)
Dad Daniel
28-11-2005, 19:40
So, I'm looking for duel games, and I see a game called "wtahc us duel" with a level 50ish enchantress and a 58 necromancer, plus a few other lower levels. Obviously townkillers -.-
So I join with my 31 Kicker and the enchantress predictably hostiles me. I run right out and try to kill her, but she manages to evade me and get back to town. She leaves and comes back with a level 91 Sorceress. I run around until I get a good look at her... and I see... Full Tal's... and The WARD for a shield. Charger time...
I exit, come back with my charger (concentration scepter up as a fake), and hostile. He heads outside town, and I go out after him. I switch when he's at the edge of my screen, and unload two back-to-back charges on him.
Game Over :lol:
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/1688/screenshot0373ti.jpg
Well done, warrior!
You have my admirations!
Can you post a screenshot on your Insight elder staff? For a long time i know about its power, especially as a switch-alterantive bersek finishing weapon on War cry barbarians, but i have never seen one in action.
:)
Full_Circle
29-11-2005, 02:18
Can you post a screenshot on your Insight elder staff?
The Staff: http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3649/screenshot0398ar.jpg
Oh, and fear Telash... he's almost as brutal as the Paladin himself...
I would post his stats, but they're far too frightening.
Do it! What else is he wearing other then the rockstopper lol
The true power behind this build is the +2 to Thunder Storm, just don't tell anyone...
Cheers
-Tai
The Staff: http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3649/screenshot0398ar.jpg
Oh, and fear Telash... he's almost as brutal as the Paladin himself...
I would post his stats, but they're far too frightening.
I wanna take a guess for fun. Eth obedience thresher + guillaumes + 4 soc armor with max jewels :)
Full_Circle
29-11-2005, 08:35
Ahhh... close, but your mistake was that you were thinking act 2 merc. Telash is actually an act 3 merc name. Now, I warn you, before opening this, make sure you're sitting down. It's amazing...
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4637/screenshot0400pd.jpg
sonikki_
29-11-2005, 13:43
The Eth Obedience Thresher would do a lot more MAX damage. The selling point on this build is the MIN damage... guaranteed 1.25k pvp (before dr) on any successful hit isn't bad at all. It's also a base strength & base dex build, giving me a lot of life with mediocre charms. Lastly... @55, you have enough skills to max Vigor, Charge, Might, take 1 in all pre-reqs, and have 2 skills left over (I dumped them in Salvation). It takes a few more levels to get to the point where Fanaticism is worth taking over straight might/synergy.
i stand corrected
Ahhh... close, but your mistake was that you were thinking act 2 merc. Telash is actually an act 3 merc name. Now, I warn you, before opening this, make sure you're sitting down. It's amazing...
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4637/screenshot0400pd.jpg
Aha! I still like mine better :p
terrymanning
29-11-2005, 17:40
The Staff: http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3649/screenshot0398ar.jpg
Oh, and fear Telash... he's almost as brutal as the Paladin himself...
I would post his stats, but they're far too frightening.
The stat requirements for that weapon are ridiculous. The minimum damage just isn't right. It doesn't seem fair some how.
The stat requirements for that weapon are ridiculous. The minimum damage just isn't right. It doesn't seem fair some how.
FHR % Breakpoints
Paladin Spears and staves 0 3 7 13 20 32 48 75 120 280
Other weapons 0 7 15 27 48 86 200
With 0 FHR, a paladin wielding this elder staff has the same FHR as a necro with no fhr. still unfair?
terrymanning
29-11-2005, 20:22
FHR % Breakpoints
Paladin Spears and staves 0 3 7 13 20 32 48 75 120 280
Other weapons 0 7 15 27 48 86 200
With 0 FHR, a paladin wielding this elder staff has the same FHR as a necro with no fhr. still unfair?
I was being facetious. I guess I forgot the smilies. :yawn:
FHR % Breakpoints
Paladin Spears and staves 0 3 7 13 20 32 48 75 120 280
Other weapons 0 7 15 27 48 86 200
With 0 FHR, a paladin wielding this elder staff has the same FHR as a necro with no fhr. still unfair?
charger pally fighting only casters who inflict elemental dmg does not have a huge demand for fhr. Sure you can find some instances but mostly he's gonna be killing blizz/orb sorcs.
You'll meet your match when you face my Cold sorc, Max Frost Nova and zeal charges.
1 point in Blizz of course for the fake-out.
Cheers
-Tai
KevinHideo
02-12-2005, 08:24
when u use charge, does the weapon u are using lose durability?
PhatTrumpet
02-12-2005, 13:44
Why wouldn't it?
Ah, the age-old practice of answering a question with a question.
that is one M_E_A_N staff. especially at that price, it must be the king of budget charger weapons.
HAMC8112
02-12-2005, 16:14
The stat requirements for that weapon are ridiculous. The minimum damage just isn't right. It doesn't seem fair some how.
A sharpdressed charger is all things but fair, but then again not a lot of people here seem to mind that. Neither do i. :lol:
KevinHideo
04-12-2005, 12:32
Why wouldn't it?
Ah, the age-old practice of answering a question with a question.
haha.. ive never used a charger before.. i sorta thought that mabey since you are like, slamming into the person, you arnt using your weapon to do it lol :lol:
guess i was stupid for a while there. :cheesy:
Noah-Izumi
04-12-2005, 23:23
my first post back in what must be at least a year or two (.09 was last time I played).
Anyways, I made a few pvp pallies before, my 13 charger had a pretty sweet setup, and snagged a full stash of ears before getting his deeds, but now I wanna move up to higher lvl dueling.
Just wondering what the idea behind the rest of your gear is... Is that bladebuckle/bloodfist and sandstorm trek you have on? Going for FHR? what armour is that? and why not go for mods like CBF?
Sorry for all the Q's :)
Noah-Izumi
04-12-2005, 23:23
my first post back in what must be at least a year or two (.09 was last time I played).
Anyways, I made a few pvp pallies before, my 13 charger had a pretty sweet setup, and snagged a full stash of ears before getting his deeds, but now I wanna move up to higher lvl dueling.
Just wondering what the idea behind the rest of your gear is... Is that bladebuckle/bloodfist and sandstorm trek you have on? Going for FHR? what armour is that? and why not go for mods like CBF?
Sorry for all the Q's :)
PhatTrumpet
04-12-2005, 23:47
Is that bladebuckle/bloodfist and sandstorm trek you have on?
You'll notice he's got 80 fire res, so they're Waterwalks, not Sandstorm.
Bladebuckle, Bloodfist, Waterwalks. Bladebuckle's just a cheap way to get stats and FHR. Bloodfist are simply the best gloves for a charger who doesn't need high stats. Waterwalks give a good deal of life.
what armour is that?
Most likely the new Amazon runeword, 'Peace'. It grants another +2 to Critical Strike for all character classes on top of what he's already getting from his weapon.
and why not go for mods like CBF?
Ever heard of a ring called Ravenfrost?
Full_Circle
05-12-2005, 01:39
You'll notice he's got 80 fire res, so they're Waterwalks, not Sandstorm.
Bladebuckle, Bloodfist, Waterwalks. Bladebuckle's just a cheap way to get stats and FHR. Bloodfist are simply the best gloves for a charger who doesn't need high stats. Waterwalks give a good deal of life.
Most likely the new Amazon runeword, 'Peace'. It grants another +2 to Critical Strike for all character classes on top of what he's already getting from his weapon.
Ever heard of a ring called Ravenfrost?
Right on all counts but one... the armor is Lionheart. Jewelry is Angelic/Angelic/Raven. I could probably do better with a rare life/fhr/resist belt, but why bother? It's a super-cheap build you use to take on level 80+ sorceresses... eventually one of them is going to get you whatever your belt may be.
bah! coulda told you it was lionheart ;)
I always used tgods here. I know the extra str killed my stats, but the boost in vit makes up for it, and fighting sorcs/trappers tgods helps a bit.
I also always kept hellmouth (i think thats the name) gaunts available for fireclaw druid and fb sorcs, so the str from tgods was good there too. Angelics/raven combo is nice because if you need to switch in a rising sun you can do it. I usually went saracens, dwarf, raven just to maximize variety.
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