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Humphrey
01-11-2005, 03:33
From the amazon forum, about D/A/E:

yes it will mess up strafe.....you will see the completed animation but none of those arrows are going to hit anything....stand a strafer close to a hydra or a bunch of flayers for proof.....sometimes it is better to take the hit.
Is this true? My poor strafer! Should I re-make her? She has 2/5/4 in them.

Summoned
01-11-2005, 03:37
If you plan to stand next to hydras and flayers all the time with a somewhat fragile character, I think you should make something else instead. ;)

Humphrey
01-11-2005, 03:40
No I'm not going to do that, but does it break strafe?

Edit: and she's not longer fragile, she can survive one Pindle-minion charge or many gloam lightning bolts! I'm impressed, considering.

Edit: Does no-one know? Where could I find out for sure? Would RTB know?

Hrus
01-11-2005, 05:27
I think it's possibly true. The same as Fend bug. My friend just matted jabberzon in MP with my fireclaw druid and he said, that he doesn't hit so often when he attacks alone on non-stunned monsters. I think the D/A/E bug could be there for all amazon attacks.

kabal
01-11-2005, 06:00
AFAIK it does break strafe, but how often do you get interrupted during a strafe cycle anyways? Maybe once every 5 or 6 Pit runs? As far as I'm concerned, it's a non-issue unless you're fighting an entire pack of gloams without a source of knockback.

SeDnA
01-11-2005, 06:46
In fact, blocking would affect zeal too in the same way. I'm quite sure because I had it happen to my zealot a lot of times. *block sound* *whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff*.

Hrus
01-11-2005, 07:14
In fact, blocking would affect zeal too in the same way. I'm quite sure because I had it happen to my zealot a lot of times. *block sound* *whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff*.
I doubt it's true. I played zealot and tesladin and had no problems with blocking or not hitting.

SeDnA
01-11-2005, 09:25
It happened to me many times. When he blocked and I clicked zeal simultaneously I would miss the whole wave of zeal. If I don't stop for a second before carrying out the next set of zeal, the whole set would miss as well.

DeathMaster
01-11-2005, 10:10
No I'm not going to do that, but does it break strafe?

Edit: and she's not longer fragile, she can survive one Pindle-minion charge or many gloam lightning bolts! I'm impressed, considering.

Edit: Does no-one know? Where could I find out for sure? Would RTB know?

It's been long I haven't touched by strafe zon. However, as far as I can remember, even it is true, it is never an issue. It might happened to me, but it would be rare enough that I never remember I had any problem with it (non did I notice any difference).

I think you might concentrate on how to get x/2 strafe, and find a source of knockback instead worry about something almost never happen. ;)

Lord_Vega
01-11-2005, 14:01
Forgive me for being quite a bit OT here, but I don't know where else to ask :)

Question is, how do I enable both the RRM and the RWM together?
I have downloaded both, and I am sure it's a simple as writing the right command in the shortcut, but I don't know exactly what is it.

Thanks in advance :)

Humphrey
01-11-2005, 14:02
Maybe I'll stop worrying then, after all those D/A/E points have saved her before, and I've not noticed missing a lot.

I do have knockback, on her bow, and X/2 would require like nothing else on the gear apart for IAS if it's even possible. Currently she hits the 10/3 (46%) breakpoint with Shael'd bow + one other source of IAS.

SeDnA
01-11-2005, 14:17
Maybe you post her gear here and others will think of a way to reach x/2

Sources of IAS:
Highlord's
Cat's Eye
Nos Coil
LoH
Rare Gloves
15 IAS jewels
Mavina's true sight
Twitchthroe
Gris Armor /w 3x15% IAS Jewel
etc.

Hrus
01-11-2005, 14:24
I think that Humphrey uses his strafer as a MF character, so sacrificing MF for the next BP is not the good solution for him...

Humphrey
01-11-2005, 14:28
Ok, I'd appricate that, thanks.
Here's her gear:

Harlequin Crest - Shako PTopaz
Highlord's Wrath - Amulet
Raven Turn - Ring (rare ring with ll and not much else)
Raven Frost - Ring
Thundergod's Vigor - War Belt
War Traveler - Battle Boots
Laying of Hands - Bramble Mitts
Windforce - Hydra Bow 'Shael'
Lionheart - Scarab Husk

She has 110 str, she needs 134 for the big heavy bow, so she needs 24 from equip.

Edit: like Hrus said. But she doesn't have much mf to sacrifice anyway...

Hrus
01-11-2005, 14:38
Stealskull (maybe IAS jewel) for Shako,
Skullder's with IAS jewel for Lionheart,
Goldwrap for Thundergod's,
Nagelring for Raventurn.

This way you will get much more MF and IAS.

(STR will be solved by leveling or charms...)

Humphrey
01-11-2005, 14:48
How much more IAS? I need 80 more (120 total) to get X/2. The Tgods is because of gloams, I want to do Baal runs with her.

Thanks for all the help, this forum is really great.

Hrus
01-11-2005, 14:57
Windy with shael - 40
Highlords - 60
LoH - 80
Goldwrap - 90
2 IAS jewels - 120 (helm - shako/stealskull, armor -Skulders)

It's possible this way with nice amount of MF. I thought it is worse to get X/2 BP with Windy...

Edit: Stealskull helm has 10%IAS, so you can keep the TGods for WSK. However I think Baal will not be killed fast with strafer. And you will not have enough resistances for WSK runs with this setup. Maybe using Tal's armor instead of Skullder's...

Humphrey
01-11-2005, 16:37
Thanks, I'll try that out, no Skulders but I have spare plain IAS jewels I think so I could use another armour for a while.


Edit: Stealskull helm has 10%IAS, so you can keep the TGods for WSK. However I think Baal will not be killed fast with strafer. And you will not have enough resistances for WSK runs with this setup. Maybe using Tal's armor instead of Skullder's...

The Baal runs were partly to level her, so they aren't that important, but I'll try the tal's armour with a IAS jewel (if I can spare the Hel rune...).