AR and life conflict for barb

[sorceressgod]

my barb has 300+ dex points, 200+ vita points. after BO it has 2k life. and it don't die in PvM unless there's iron maiden or un-consensual rape by black souls.

I now have about 10k+ AR for WW and berserk(had many charms with AR mods). How is it possible to have decent AR(aiming for 20k AR) when everybody says just aim for enough dex for max block rate and the rest goes to vita points?

Don't advice me on putting angelics set, yes they add obscene amounts of AR lol, but to me it's a total waste of space.

here's my gear:

EBOTD CB
5% LL Arreats with ed/ias jewel
Stormshield with ed/max jewel
highlords ammy
8%LL/9 resist all ring
raven frost
gore riders
lava gouts
verdungoes
dual echoing glaives

Tell me if 10kish AR for WW is good, bad, normal, obscenely-good or just enough to kill any thing in PvM(uber generals included).

thanks again :)

[Bert]

For pvm I alway's aim for 10k AR.

I always end up somewhere between 11k - 12k, and i never had any problems for PvM purposes.

- Bert

[DontFlameMe]

Adding to dex is one of the worst ways to try to get AR. 20k is overkill for PvM IMO...10-12k should be more than enough. Increase your dex in synch with your levels for 75% max block (should be 2 dex every lvl, once you have Stormshield on, and at 75% block) and put everything else into vita. You need that life in Chaos when you're using Berserk and are unable to leech (add to that the fact that you aren't using Dracul's, and survivability becomes a big issue). I keep 3 GC's with 120+ AR each in my inventory. Those added to Ravenfrost and other small AR from my items is enough to get me 15k Berserk AR and 9k AR Concentrate, which is my usual backup skill. In your case, I would get a few 100+ AR Grand's and add all further points into Vita, as your life is quite low, even for PvM. Good luck!

[sorceressgod]

Adding to dex is one of the worst ways to try to get AR. 20k is overkill for PvM IMO...10-12k should be more than enough. Increase your dex in synch with your levels for 75% max block (should be 2 dex every lvl, once you have Stormshield on, and at 75% block) and put everything else into vita. You need that life in Chaos when you're using Berserk and are unable to leech (add to that the fact that you aren't using Dracul's, and survivability becomes a big issue). I keep 3 GC's with 120+ AR each in my inventory. Those added to Ravenfrost and other small AR from my items is enough to get me 15k Berserk AR and 9k AR Concentrate, which is my usual backup skill. In your case, I would get a few 100+ AR Grand's and add all further points into Vita, as your life is quite low, even for PvM. Good luck!


i see.. that really helped.. thanks!

[Halciet]

Angelics are actually pretty nice pieces of gear for whirlers, what with the damage to mana and huge ar. But yes, dex is a horrible source of AR, as mentioned. As you stated yourself, you have over 300 points in it and only break 10k ar. All of those extra points into vitality would've given you a ton more life, and you'd still have plenty of ar.

If you're talking about getting 20k ar, you're looking at pvp, and you'll HAVE to use angelics (2k life is ridiculously low for that circuit, and there's not much you can do to get over 20 without the rings/amulet). Otherwise, 7-10k is fine for pvm, and you can easily get there with decent gear and/or some ar charms (fine charms of x are always nice). Demon Limb can also push you up some.

-Hal

[Neurofuzzy]

Your main options for AR are:

- Angelic rings and amulet (not bad at all for PvP, specially BvB)
- AR charms (you need many to make a difference)
- Metalgrid (amulet) and 2 x Raven Frost
- Demon Limb (for Enchant)

Puting points into Dex is not good for AR (just good for blocking with shield)! If you mean PvM, 10K is Ok. For PvP, 20K is the start point...

[sonikki_]

you have very low life...

[mastermind]

hmm that the biggest mistake to make is to add to dex but luckly urr only pvm so it does matter as much.

Anyways the way barbs get high ar are using the following techniques;

1.Maxed the weapon mastery and primary attack

2.use 2 raven frost rings or a metalgrid amu

3.use 2 angelic rings + amu for good ar

4.Also the demonlimb enchant

but as stated u only pvm so ul only need about 10k ar beyond 15k is overkill for pvm