What is considered BM for bone necros?

[Freezing Rain]

I have revives, decrepify, and bone prison just in case somebody get's BM with me. I know revive stacking and prison is BM, but what about decrep?

[stoutewolf]

I have revives, decrepify, and bone prison just in case somebody get's BM with me. I know revive stacking and prison is BM, but what about decrep?


bm vs amas and melee druids

[Phyrexial]

Revives are BM by most standards, I don't think either of the other two are BM in my book. They are skills just like any other. Here is my reasoning:

1) Revives require you to leave the dueling area, go to another area, amass Revives, and you can only do this for 3 minutes before you have to repeat the fairly long process. This breaks two of my own rules that I follow:
- No minions that cannot be summoned both in and out of town.
- If it takes an excessive amount of time inbetween duels (hunting for juvs, reviving, having an entire gear/charm set for dueling specific chars or crazy prebuffing) then it's just plain annoying moreso than BM.

2) Decrep and bone prison are just situationally useful skills, like Slow Missiles, Iron Maiden, Salvation, Cyclone Armor, etc. People that whine about them being BM are just complainers in my opinion. Especially now since in the Marrow bug was fixed, bone necros are sacrificing damage for that extra versatility.

[Freezing Rain]

I know SM are definitely BM, i guess i'll use decrep though :P.

[SPARC]

I fought a necro who had decrep, clay golem, doom, and riphook merc with my melee druid, I kinda didn't move..

[Rauth]

No skill is bm, although some are certainly overpowering against certain builds. No one calls cyclone armor bm, but it makes dueling fohers just as unfair as bprison makes dueling melee druids. People are going to cry about anything that kills them, so everything is bm. Just learn to ignore them, use whatever skill you can to win. Bm is more of How you play ,then what you use. Unfortunately, people are going to be idiots, and you just have to deal with it. Personally, I just liked to be prepared with a char that can handle just about anyone, regardless of bm.

However, since people are going to cry so much, you can always just avoid the problem alltogether by killing them with as little as possible. Like, instead of bone prisoning, you could just spear them to death. Of course, then some will cry about enigma, and bone spells being overpowered, etc etc. In that case, squelch is your friend. ;)

[RetroStar]

No skill is bm, although some are certainly overpowering against certain builds. No one calls cyclone armor bm, but it makes dueling fohers just as unfair as bprison makes dueling melee druids. People are going to cry about anything that kills them, so everything is bm.

That pretty much sums up everything about 'bad manner'

[Freezing Rain]

Kso, stacking venom lords/burning souls + mages using decrepify, prisoning, and spamming full rejuv's is okay? GOOD!

[SlainByPain]

Bone prison, decrepify,revives. I myself mind bone prison alot more than revives.

[Rauth]

Kso, stacking venom lords/burning souls + mages using decrepify, prisoning, and spamming full rejuv's is okay? GOOD!

Any SKILL is ok, but all that crap together is probably way overkill. Spamming juvs isn't a skill, although it would be a pretty handy one ;).

[mastermind]

it true u cant really say a skill is bm i do admit htey are some skill that annoy me alittle in duel like a life tap when fighting a smiter ur wining then lifetap goes off and then the table turn and u lose lol or the duelers that cast lifetap with a lifetap wand with charges that is lame in my oppinon.

I do admit i dont like nec fights much cuz of the good dmg from bone spear and the bone spirit that follows and most necs can spam alot of these making it hard to avoid even when u tele ontop of them u get spammed by alot of them and can take alot of dmg.

But the bottom line is these skills make the duel interesting cuz and it take alot of skill to take down a good nec that can tele, use bonewall, decrypt, bonespear, bonespirit, and boneprison and has max block max dr and still uses bone armour.

If the person cant tele and u use all of that then it is a hugely dissadvantaged fight for a mele char.

The things i consider bm are when u have mass absorb items on vs say a cold sorc and u use 2 raven frost and have like 90 res then that bm in my oppinion or fighting a light sorc or trapper with huge res and stil use 2x whisp plus tg.

Or if ppl that precast before the duel, i.e a smiter precasting lifetap or nec or someone ur dueling casts a iron maiden before the duel or a weaking cast.

plus ppl cry over everything especially if they lose.
Sometimes u have to do what u think it is rite cuz why should u reduce the chances of u wining by not using ur skills to the full potential because someone says its bm?

That when u squelch ppl and start owning :D

[Freezing Rain]

So far i understand this.

Anything goes. Prison/decrep isn't even as bad as cyclone armor vs. casters, so it's all good.

[inanefedaykin]

Skills are fine, rejuvs are not. I'd like to see someone beat a good barb with a full belt of full juvs. Same goes for any other class but not to such an extensive degree.

[Phyrexial]

Skills are fine, rejuvs are not. I'd like to see someone beat a good barb with a full belt of full juvs. Same goes for any other class but not to such an extensive degree.
I would echo this. Any skills used I feel are fine for the most part, Revives being an exception. Rejuvs are a different matter entirely as it promotes 1 hit/high hp builds alot more than is needed. Pretty much it makes BvCs, Hammerdins, and Windies even more broken.