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zeroign
13-10-2005, 06:29
Decided to make a windy as my first PvP char since I never really played a druid and I have most of the gear (need enigma and hoto that's it) so I figured what the hell. Should I go spirit and base dex or go max block with an Um'd SS or something? I'm thinking the SS for more res, block, and 45% DR with shako... Is that the best decision?

With a 1BO CTA and maxed oak what kind of life am I looking at on this char? Will he be able to survive a psysical attack? As far as charms go I want all elemental skillers with life right?

Also, what armor should I use for enigma? Breast plate? Mage plate? How much strength do I need on this guy to equip SS/spirit monarch with enigma at level 85+? Assuming I have an average anni and torch in my invintory.

I've played d2 since it came out but never PvP'd so this is pretty exciting :D

'22'Souljah
13-10-2005, 07:46
if built and played right you don't need max blokc vs most people
use enigma if you use any other armor then even shapeshifting druids can kill you

zeroign
13-10-2005, 08:18
So go for spirit?

I know I need enigma but what armor should I make it in?

Ce Olba
13-10-2005, 08:39
So go for spirit?

I know I need enigma but what armor should I make it in?

which ever u prefer, since unless u are gonna fal that shako or use a jalal, u need to put 77 points in str, that's without torch or anni. And with that u could use eni scarab with just shako. (scarab=cheap)

blobswannabe
13-10-2005, 08:45
don't listen to him wind druids don't need def. you should make it on a mage plate. unless you have enough + str from other gear and charms to use a high str requirement enigma wihtout adding a single point in str. also if you don't have ele lifers which are expensive as hell you should probably not get max block. but that doens't mean u should go with no block at all some block should be ok. You'll want a lot of p oints in vita and life charms cuz windies benefit a lot from life.

A C E
13-10-2005, 13:47
First off, you might not want to um your ss. Wind druids have hurricane armor that absorbs a crazy ammout of elemental damage so your set there. Put a -15%req jewel with another mod into it.

Use ss when you are fighting melee chars and spirit vs casters, or if your need it to hit a fcr breakpoint.

Try to have max block with SS, having max block with spirit just isn't worth it.

If you are going with a base strength druid then I suggest putting the enigma in a dusk shroud as its req is only 77 str. With it's str bonus, you might be able to equip the SS if it has a -15req in it.

Freezing Rain
13-10-2005, 16:44
Every character in PvP needs ES, obscenely fast run walk, or max block. I'd say go for it, it's worth it in every situation.

Rauth
13-10-2005, 17:39
don't listen to him wind druids don't need def. you should make it on a mage plate. unless you have enough + str from other gear and charms to use a high str requirement enigma wihtout adding a single point in str. also if you don't have ele lifers which are expensive as hell you should probably not get max block. but that doens't mean u should go with no block at all some block should be ok. You'll want a lot of p oints in vita and life charms cuz windies benefit a lot from life.

What he said. If you are on a decent connection you will hardly ever need block if you play right. It does help a great deal vs 99% of barbs though.

ele with life charms> Life charms> regular ele charms like he said. You don't need all that much damage for tornado to do its job.

However, if you have access to all the best gear, go with block. The extra 1kish life you get from not maxing block will hardly ever save you, but the ignoring 3/4 of phys attacks will save you many times.

blobswannabe
13-10-2005, 17:57
Don't listen to anything a c e says he doesn't know anything other than reporting everything to the mods. Windies need res just as much as everyone else. high damage attacks such as, fb,lightning, traps, cs,etc can take out your ca instantly and if you don't have decent res you'll die in 1 hit without your oak.

RetroStar
13-10-2005, 21:37
Don't listen to anything a c e says he doesn't know anything other than reporting everything to the mods.

Lol.

Anyway, I've never made a wind druid WITHOUT block. I feel block is very essential because you go so close to your opponent when you duel melee. I've never lost to any non block wind druids as a few ww takes them out already.

Gotcha
14-10-2005, 04:20
if built and played right you don't need max blokc vs most people
use enigma if you use any other armor then even shapeshifting druids can kill you

I have to disagree here. I made my first vita windy last ladder and loved him. My first vita windy build of 6. A BVC will walk all over you without max block. If you think minions will save you you better hope the barb does not use leap. If he does your minions are worthless and you are deader then roadkill. One ww and you will wish you went max block. If I make another windy this ladder I will go back to block just for the BVC builds that are all over the place in dueling games now. I found the extra life was not really worth the added benefit of 75% block IMO and I have made 6 PVP windy's to date.

'22'Souljah
14-10-2005, 06:19
I have to disagree here. I made my first vita windy last ladder and loved him. My first vita windy build of 6. A BVC will walk all over you without max block. If you think minions will save you you better hope the barb does not use leap. If he does your minions are worthless and you are deader then roadkill. One ww and you will wish you went max block. If I make another windy this ladder I will go back to block just for the BVC builds that are all over the place in dueling games now. I found the extra life was not really worth the added benefit of 75% block IMO and I have made 6 PVP windy's to date.
bvc who knows what he's doing will kill you anyways even if you have max blokc

Rauth
14-10-2005, 06:51
bvc who knows what he's doing will kill you anyways even if you have max blokc

Very very few people are capable of that. 99% of barbs you can kill as long as you have max block. Without it, any half-decent bvc should be able to take you down in a ww or two.

Block is by far the better way to go if you can afford it.

GkT
14-10-2005, 07:44
Very very few people are capable of that. 99% of barbs you can kill as long as you have max block. Without it, any half-decent bvc should be able to take you down in a ww or two.

Block is by far the better way to go if you can afford it.
That's not really true. Comparing average Windies with average BvCs, the Windies with Max Block will still lose to the BvCs as long as they aren't complete retards that try to do long WWs right through the Druid.

BvCs should take out Windies generally; although it is a hard matchup. Leap makes it much easier.

blobswannabe
14-10-2005, 08:19
You guys are overestimating bvcs I havent' seen any good ones except for the original bvcs although grief is out. If your on east or west nl and would like to prove me wrong leave your accounts. Also if you stack doggies you'll be able to get out of a ww wihtout getting hit then you can tele away and recast. the few bvcs who can actually beat your low block windy will also be able to beat your max block windy. but i'm not saying u shoudn't have block at all cuz wihtout a block you'll get pwnt by a team of zons in an instant. also if you don't have ele gcs with life you might as well replace some of the plain skillers with 20 lfie scs.

skilledlord
14-10-2005, 09:28
Erm if this is your first pvp char. Go with max block. You'll need the practice. Use spirit because usually you have about 2 seconds to tele to a different spot.

A C E
14-10-2005, 14:07
Don't listen to anything a c e says he doesn't know anything other than reporting everything to the mods. Windies need res just as much as everyone else. high damage attacks such as, fb,lightning, traps, cs,etc can take out your ca instantly and if you don't have decent res you'll die in 1 hit without your oak.

Lol.
1) I never said windies don't need resist, i merely said that uming the ss is a waste. A better thing to socket it would be a -15% jewel with a second mod (which can be res). (Unless you have enough strength to equip the ss w/o the jewel) Also, If someone does enough damage to take down your armor in 1 shot, then you are screwed if you get hit again. You also SHOULDN'T be getting hit in the first place.

2) I have never reported anyone to the mods and I don't even know HOW to report people. Just so you know, telling people if they broke the rules while posting is not reporting them, it is helping them so they don't do it again and get banned.

GkT
14-10-2005, 15:02
You guys are overestimating bvcs I havent' seen any good ones except for the original bvcs although grief is out. If your on east or west nl and would like to prove me wrong leave your accounts. Also if you stack doggies you'll be able to get out of a ww wihtout getting hit then you can tele away and recast. the few bvcs who can actually beat your low block windy will also be able to beat your max block windy. but i'm not saying u shoudn't have block at all cuz wihtout a block you'll get pwnt by a team of zons in an instant. also if you don't have ele gcs with life you might as well replace some of the plain skillers with 20 lfie scs.
Just out of curiosity & for my amusement, why is it that 1 out of every few posts you must prove your point by telling them to leave their accounts so you can duel them? I'm just curious, that's all. ;)

sheepe2004
14-10-2005, 16:39
Erm if this is your first pvp char. Go with max block. You'll need the practice. Use spirit because usually you have about 2 seconds to tele to a different spot.

you really shouldnt get max block with spirit

imo you should get max block unless you wanna be unable to have a chance vs many good duellers. You can still use the spirit from your bo switch when your dueling only casters

Rauth
14-10-2005, 18:11
Just out of curiosity & for my amusement, why is it that 1 out of every few posts you must prove your point by telling them to leave their accounts so you can duel them? I'm just curious, that's all. ;)

Because the only way to prove any point here is to prove it in game. Everything else is just talk.

blobswannabe
14-10-2005, 18:32
Just out of curiosity & for my amusement, why is it that 1 out of every few posts you must prove your point by telling them to leave their accounts so you can duel them? I'm just curious, that's all. ;)

Because I like to duel duh. Also I really haven't seen any good bvcs other than me, mcm, and silen since blobs and eric quit.Oh and luis if your talking about u.s. east.

Also the pvpforum is supposed to be a place where people meet up and duel or prove their points in actual duels. Not where everyone should feel threatened and offended the idea of actually dueling. There are just too many wanna be "ACES" these days who are all talk and chicken out of duels.

A C E
14-10-2005, 18:40
Edited: + 10 letters

RetroStar
15-10-2005, 04:28
That's not really true. Comparing average Windies with average BvCs, the Windies with Max Block will still lose to the BvCs as long as they aren't complete retards that try to do long WWs right through the Druid.

BvCs should take out Windies generally; although it is a hard matchup. Leap makes it much easier.

Block makes the duel last longer, prolonging the duration which the BvC may make a mistake.

Non block wind druid = 1 WW Death.

Hardened Steel
19-10-2005, 07:25
Windys NEED max block

your going to be getting up close if you want to kill and if your dueling melee, your screwed without it.

max block isnt just for beginners... if your saying that the pro's strategy is to run everytime their going to get hit, thats just wrong...