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Dark Omega
08-10-2005, 06:38
To make a long story short I am playing a barb concentrator and my brother has a Spiritmancer. He has completly phyenergyed out Teeth, bone spear, bone spirirt, bone wall and bone prison. I can't touch him. He throws up a dozen bone walls and prisons right in front of me them lets fly with bone spirit and teeth. let me put it bluntly. THESE THINGS HURT, And i can't find any magic resistance to bone magic. SO... where can I find resistances to this type of Magic? I thought it was "Phisical" magic but I can't block it. And finding Magic redouce items isn't help either. What am I doing wrong? My brother is a asshole, he well fill a room full of bone walls, one atop the other making it a pain to get anywhere, there has got to be a way past all this.
To make a long story short I am playing a barb concentrator and my brother has a Spiritmancer. He has completly phyenergyed out Teeth, bone spear, bone spirirt, bone wall and bone prison. I can't touch him. He throws up a dozen bone walls and prisons right in front of me them lets fly with bone spirit and teeth. let me put it bluntly. THESE THINGS HURT, And i can't find any magic resistance to bone magic. SO... where can I find resistances to this type of Magic? I thought it was "Phisical" magic but I can't block it. And finding Magic redouce items isn't help either. What am I doing wrong? My brother is a asshole, he well fill a room full of bone walls, one atop the other making it a pain to get anywhere, there has got to be a way past all this.
There is no -% Magic Damage Reduction in the game.
Valvolux
08-10-2005, 06:54
Make an Energy Shield Sorc, then you can 'absorb' magic damage kinda, or use enigma and whirlwind if you wanna stay playing a barb. Some items have 'magic damage reduced by x' such as vampire gaze and string of ears...but theses offer little protection by themselves. Best of Luck
Val
AndyChrono
08-10-2005, 07:40
To make a long story short I am playing a barb concentrator and my brother has a Spiritmancer. He has completly phyenergyed out Teeth, bone spear, bone spirirt, bone wall and bone prison. I can't touch him. He throws up a dozen bone walls and prisons right in front of me them lets fly with bone spirit and teeth. let me put it bluntly. THESE THINGS HURT, And i can't find any magic resistance to bone magic. SO... where can I find resistances to this type of Magic? I thought it was "Phisical" magic but I can't block it. And finding Magic redouce items isn't help either. What am I doing wrong? My brother is a asshole, he well fill a room full of bone walls, one atop the other making it a pain to get anywhere, there has got to be a way past all this.
Make a Lightning/ES sorc. Assuming your equipment is good enough and you have enough mana, you can just teleport on top of him, lightning once/twice and he's dead. Bonewalls/prisons won't save him. Spirits/Spears tickle you and teeth does no damage.
morotsjos
08-10-2005, 17:05
Make a Lightning/ES sorc. Assuming your equipment is good enough and you have enough mana, you can just teleport on top of him, lightning once/twice and he's dead.
You mean "assuming he sucks enough" right?
Phyrexial
08-10-2005, 18:11
Before making any suggestions to you, it would probably help to know what kind of gear you and your brother have access to. If you aren't using Enigma against a necro on melee, I'm guessing you don't have it and can't get it.
If Enigma is out of the question, I would strongly recommend a good Energy Shield using sorc. Probably a lightning sorc. Sorc's natural teleport negates the advantage Bonewall/prison gives the necro and with Energy Shield you should be able to easily outtank the necro if you have enough mana. If your brother also doesn't have Enigma, then this should be a fairly easy fight unless he really really knows what he's doing.
AndyChrono
09-10-2005, 07:21
You mean "assuming he sucks enough" right?
Given the way he described his brother playing he does suck enough. Either way, it really doesn't matter. An ES sorc will kill a necro anyway. It'll just take a bit longer if the nec is good.
morotsjos
09-10-2005, 13:09
Given the way he described his brother playing he does suck enough. Either way, it really doesn't matter. An ES sorc will kill a necro anyway. It'll just take a bit longer if the nec is good.
Perhaps & agreed. Just that no non-retarded nec will die in 1-2 lightnings ;D
messagesse
11-10-2005, 19:51
To make a long story short I am playing a barb concentrator and my brother has a Spiritmancer. He has completly phyenergyed out Teeth, bone spear, bone spirirt, bone wall and bone prison. I can't touch him. He throws up a dozen bone walls and prisons right in front of me them lets fly with bone spirit and teeth. let me put it bluntly. THESE THINGS HURT, And i can't find any magic resistance to bone magic. SO... where can I find resistances to this type of Magic? I thought it was "Phisical" magic but I can't block it. And finding Magic redouce items isn't help either. What am I doing wrong? My brother is a asshole, he well fill a room full of bone walls, one atop the other making it a pain to get anywhere, there has got to be a way past all this.
Yeah, as stated above, ES sorc is the way to go. Also - make MEMORY runeword (super cheap) to prebuff the ES. Besides - if he really IS an asshole, you can always poison his cereal...
Noite Escura
11-10-2005, 20:55
Either way, it really doesn't matter. An ES sorc will kill a necro anyway.
Not if he gets 100% light resist. What about BvC?
morotsjos
11-10-2005, 20:58
Not if he gets 100% light resist. What about BvC?
Then you're not "dueling" anyway. Bad argument.
BvC:s aren't optimal to deal with bonenecs, especially not the ones you describe. If he use 100% lightres he'll sure as hell use iron maiden vs barbs.
RetroStar
11-10-2005, 21:47
Not if he gets 100% light resist. What about BvC?
You can't get a displayed 100% lightning resist. also you'll be sacrificing your gear you won't be able to kill anything.
morotsjos
11-10-2005, 21:57
You can't get a displayed 100% lightning resist. also you'll be sacrificing your gear you won't be able to kill anything.
Tgods + 2x LO doesn't sacrifice too much though...
bigggerblobs
12-10-2005, 06:58
bone nec no matter what they use r easy ask mike to show u the autoaim-looking continous berserk, i dont play anymore cant sho u
and if they dont use im and bone **** then just triangle ww gg
morotsjos
12-10-2005, 12:21
bone nec no matter what they use r easy ask mike to show u the autoaim-looking continous berserk, i dont play anymore cant sho u
and if they dont use im and bone **** then just triangle ww gg
And how many people can do that? Like 3-4 on each realm lol =)
I still hate berserk cause it's slow, interruptable and unlikely to hit vs 75%block-chars. How do you hit necs with summons anyway? After leaping to seperate they'll always tele away so it's impossible to land a berserk.
bigggerblobs
12-10-2005, 22:52
namelock em with left click zerk so u start running after them and when they're teleporting away or anytime theres no spirits following you just tap teleport on the right side and you'll end up on top of them and retain your namelock, and with another click u start swinging. looks alot like autoaim and works almost as good
if they teleport away, u still got your namelock so u just keep joggin after them until they stop to shoot and then they're screwed
if u dont like the berserk then just start wwing after u arrive, that works too unless they got summons, but if they got summons then their bone spells arent top of the line especially without marrows so your still good
finally for the ones that spam bone walls to suck up your hits just keep berserking and dont ww.
bigggerblobs
12-10-2005, 22:56
if its pub then just cast life tap on everyone with one of those wands u get from malah in hell act 5. costs like 900 a charge which is nothing, considering iits stronger than iron maiden and ensures that u can fight druids for over fifty (50) rounds without healing. this is just in case druids grow a lip and start mouthing off like they do every so often
if its pub then just cast life tap on everyone with one of those wands u get from malah in hell act 5. costs like 900 a charge which is nothing, considering iits stronger than iron maiden and ensures that u can fight druids for over fifty (50) rounds without healing. this is just in case druids grow a lip and start mouthing off like they do every so often
Haha, you did that to me in a priv game you bastard. ;). That was when you had just gotten back into dueling or something, and chris was making fun of you for losing some duels to a dialup windy(me). :lol:
morotsjos
13-10-2005, 00:10
namelock em with left click zerk so u start running after them and when they're teleporting away or anytime theres no spirits following you just tap teleport on the right side and you'll end up on top of them and retain your namelock, and with another click u start swinging. looks alot like autoaim and works almost as good
if they teleport away, u still got your namelock so u just keep joggin after them until they stop to shoot and then they're screwed
if u dont like the berserk then just start wwing after u arrive, that works too unless they got summons, but if they got summons then their bone spells arent top of the line especially without marrows so your still good
finally for the ones that spam bone walls to suck up your hits just keep berserking and dont ww.
Thanks, didn't really get it in your guide lol. Time to rebuild and put spare points in shout instead of increased speed then =(
Btw, doesn't it happen that necs with maxblock can tank your zerk since it's interruptable?
bigggerblobs
13-10-2005, 01:26
well back when i played, before the patch, people generally didnt have max block, so if my fingers were good that day, it would work
when koda used my necro vs me on my barb and then he used my barb vs me on my necro, (both had perf setups, necro had max block/dr/9frame cast) and if we each tried to do the zerk thing, barb would win the tanking half the time, necro would win the other half.
However my necro had a gigantic amount of life and mana and defense (something like 3k life/2k mana without oak,4k defense, no bo prebuff) cause i was stashing five 44/45 boners and all my 20/17s on it, plus competent people were playing it. Most necros dont have that sort of stuff and if you had grief i bet the zerking would still win mostly.
Usually though the only time u need it is in pubs, and in pubs your suppoed to spam click heal pots continuously. its a 2-hit kill on them, not giving em enough time to pot, but it takes longer for the barb to die, so its still in favor of the barb.
mike has those charms now cause he is r1cH. he has perhaps the largest concentration of legit 20/17s and 40+ bone charms on uswest so unless its him i dont think your gonna hafta worry about a tanking war. lol.
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