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DWdrums
06-10-2005, 00:45
Which do you think is better? IMO, Occy wins.

I use Occy now, and yesterday I was trying to trade a bunch of crap I had for like a Ko, but instead somebody gave me a 3/17/10 Eschutas, not a bad deal.

I put the Eschutas on, and it only gave me 300 more lightning damage, which isn't that much. So to drop the Occy for it, I would be giving up :

-20 all resists
-20 energy/vit
-50 mf

Just to gain 300 more dmg and 10% fcr. My fcr is already around 110, so I'm happy with that. I didn't find the Eschutas that good, so I traded it for an Um.

CallMeTheSpelunker
06-10-2005, 00:54
Which do you think is better? IMO, Occy wins.

I use Occy now, and yesterday I was trying to trade a bunch of crap I had for like a Ko, but instead somebody gave me a 3/17/10 Eschutas, not a bad deal.

I put the Eschutas on, and it only gave me 300 more lightning damage, which isn't that much. So to drop the Occy for it, I would be giving up :

-20 all resists
-20 energy/vit
-50 mf

Just to gain 300 more dmg and 10% fcr. My fcr is already around 110, so I'm happy with that. I didn't find the Eschutas that good, so I traded it for an Um.


go u! you got an um for it! thats good trading on ur part... but i thing occy is about equal... with lag on my comp you can just sit still for like 10 secs then ur guaranteed to be hit enough to tele u and it messes up your whole plan... i hate to be the broken record of the anti-occy movement. Not that im anti-occy or anything, use it on every sorc i have :p


cheers

-SPELUNKIFY ME, CAP'N!-

Leohappy
06-10-2005, 02:44
I think 117%fcr is last breakpoint for l/cl so 10 fcr more would help since you have 110 now. Also faceted eschuta beats any other orb dmg-wise for lightning sorc (well, maybe theres a rare orb somewhere that adds crazy amount of light skills, fcr etc but this is super rare). I think occy isn't a bad choice, hoto is also good depending on what kind of gear you use.

On my light sorc I prefer faceted eschuta for dmg since i have res from other gear.

sirmessbu
06-10-2005, 02:51
Occy can sometimes get ya killed with the teleport, mf can be on weapon switch idealy 6 ist crystalsword and 4 ist monarch. Resist can be obtain with charm and it have lower cast rate.

The bonus to light and fire damage isnt a lot but still, consider it like +3 to that mastery. Personnaly eschuta is better but need to be +3, wich isnt always the case when ya id it. In the end its only a matter of taste.

lonnie913
06-10-2005, 03:01
Occy can sometimes get ya killed with the teleport, mf can be on weapon switch idealy 6 ist crystalsword and 4 ist monarch. Resist can be obtain with charm and it have lower cast rate.

The bonus to light and fire damage isnt a lot but still, consider it like +3 to that mastery. Personnaly eschuta is better but need to be +3, wich isnt always the case when ya id it. In the end its only a matter of taste.

if you have 10 ists to put in your gear, what exactly are you hoping to find while mf'ing? :lol: 10ists buys most any unique or set in the game. i guess it doesnt get the really rare, perfect ones... heh

yelopen
06-10-2005, 04:11
MF= Occy
Anything else I think Eschuta's

sirmessbu
06-10-2005, 04:21
When ya become a greedy man like that want to own all uniques of the games 2 or 3 times each to outfit your 30 caracter 10 ist s nothing.

jonw
06-10-2005, 20:09
if you have 10 ists to put in your gear, what exactly are you hoping to find while mf'ing? :lol: 10ists buys most any unique or set in the game. i guess it doesnt get the really rare, perfect ones... heh

THIS is hysterical. Favorite post of the month so far!! :clap:

As far as occy or eschutas, I would (and do) take a +3 skills eschutas over occy. I have a 5-5 fire facet socketed in a 3/18/19/26 eschutas, which gives nice damage, good mana boost, a lovely 40% fcr and doesn't teleport me randomly to my death during Baal and Meph runs when some doll nicks me.

+1/+2 eschutas is generally not tradeable - no level 72+ sorc (requirement for eschutas) is going to settle for +1 to skills.

Hoto is also very nice - used it last ladder. It depends how much you want the damage boost from eschutas versus the other nice mods (resists!) on Hoto, but you could argue either way.

Greer
US West