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magicalkitty
05-10-2005, 22:21
I dont understand why people would choose amp over decr.? isnt decr. what baal cast on u? decr. slows ur enemy down causes them to take %100 more dam., and causes them to do less dam? . i dont know about u but i sure like my skeles, and mages and my merc to get a few more hits in that do more dam. before the monsters can even hit once.
let me know ur thoughts on this.

ps i saw a post about how to get ur first skele. use ur merc, and golom while casting decr.. my merc uses a scyth w/ runeword "honor" 650-1k dam. he manhandles hell cows with alittle help from decr. and then c.e.

thx magical-kitty

Necrochild313
05-10-2005, 22:39
I dont understand why people would choose amp over decr.? isnt decr. what baal cast on u? decr. slows ur enemy down causes them to take %100 more dam., and causes them to do less dam? .

Decrepify lowers physical resistance (DR) by 50% Whereas amp lowers it by 100%.

The reason why people use amp over decrep in most situations is because skellies are such tanks that they really don't need the defensive properties of decrepify. The extra -50% to DR is alot more helpful.

Amp also has a larger radius than decrepify at modest levels (decrepify's radius is set, amp's grows as the level raises), which means that less castin' and more corpse blastin' can happen.

Good places to use decrep over amp would be when fighting a boss (coupled with clay golem's slow ability the bosses hardly move), and when fighting a hard boss pack such as Extra Fast Aura Enchanted Frenzytaurs or the like.

chubbypuppy
05-10-2005, 22:53
Decrepify lowers physical resistance (DR) by 50% Whereas amp lowers it by 100%.

And by extension, since Corpse Explosion's damage is 50% physical, amp damage doubles that (leading to 150% CE damage) vs Decrepify just adds 50% (leading to 125% CE damage).

magicalkitty
06-10-2005, 00:35
And by extension, since Corpse Explosion's damage is 50% physical, amp damage doubles that (leading to 150% CE damage) vs Decrepify just adds 50% (leading to 125% CE damage).



ooooohhh well meybe i should use amp

AnimeCraze
06-10-2005, 06:25
You should be using both.

Edit: Removed the ranting about ppl using only 1~2 curses, I will repost it somewhere else.

Necrochild313
06-10-2005, 08:18
You should be using both.

Edit: Removed the ranting about ppl using only 1~2 curses, I will repost it somewhere else.

You should've kept it, I rant about it too. AI curses are very useful and everyone seems to ignore them.

AnimeCraze
06-10-2005, 10:51
You should've kept it, I rant about it too. AI curses are very useful and everyone seems to ignore them.http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=391291&page=2

I posted it there. It seems more fitting right after someone recommand only using amp and decrp.

jag
06-10-2005, 15:38
I wouldnt recommend limiting yourself to only 1 or 2 curses, but i am guilty of it. Amp and attract everything with my Skellymancer. Only 2 curses i have hot keyed. Once in a great while i will replace attract with dim vision if i run into a real nasty archer pack or the beloved black souls.

Only using 2 curses is some laziness, bad habit, and basic utility. With my might merc, i amp the critters and enjoy the quicker kills. I would probably earn more style points for using more curses, but i use what works.

RealmOftheWolf
06-10-2005, 15:47
Ive neva had to use decrep since i got my first enigma. Tele on top of the boss and hes basically stunned. only curse i have hot keyed is amplify damage.

F1 - Amplify Damage
F2 - Teleport
F3 - Raise Skeleton
F4 - Raise Skeletal Mage
F5 - Clay Golem (aka gumby)
F6 - Battle Command
F7 - Battle Orders
F8 - Bone Armor (i get this from a 3 bone armor splendor so no points in it)

no need for decrep or corpse explosion i kill fast w/o it. i got 40 skill points to spend.

Myrakh-2
06-10-2005, 19:44
I wouldnt recommend limiting yourself to only 1 or 2 curses, but i am guilty of it.

Yeah, I'm more interested in killing stuff as well, although I use Amp (vs. most things), Decrepify (vs. act bosses), plus the occasional Lower Resist.

I also had Life Tap and Dim Vision hotkeyed --- the Life Tap is for melee party members, if someone needs it, and the Dim Vision... I don't remember whether I actually did use it, but it was intended for the Frozen River map.

RealmOftheWolf
06-10-2005, 20:37
Decrep vs act bosses is good when u dont have enigma but with it gumby+12 skeles stunlock him so i just use amp

AnimeCraze
06-10-2005, 21:32
The reason which you use more curses IS to kill more stuff faster and to prevent them from killing you. Yes, most of the time, I only use a few (amp and decr), but I use the rest of them whenever there is a need to (think WSK lvl 2). I have most of it hotkeyed since a normal summonner doesn't have much to hotkey anyways.

Necrochild313
06-10-2005, 22:42
I have trouble with a summoner on classic (besides getting the first corpse) in the fact that you have hardly any hotkeys. MY CURSES!

RealmOftheWolf
06-10-2005, 22:46
trang summoners or non enigma summoners need decrep for bosses to slow him down but with minion stackin after teleport the bosses are stunlocked so ive neva had trouble.