Robo-GPA vs. Eth Tomb Reaver

[Summerfun]

HI. i remaking my pvp fury druid.

i just wanna know whats better,
the robo-gpa (eth GreatPoleAxe socket Zod- 5* ias/ed jewels)
Or eth Tomb Reaver socket Zod 2* ias/ed??

Tombreaver is gonna have about 900 max dmg. and range 4
Robo-Gpa will only have 580 max dmg. and range 5
Or... is there a even better two-handed??


Im so confussed....

[Tor]

cgpoq would be better than a robo gpa i think (shael/edias)
cgtoq would be better too (edias/edias)

[GandalfTheGhey]

You're never going to do better then tomb reaver.

You're damage over time will beat any other weapon you could consider.

2 shaels and a zod is the choice of champions. A 6 / 4 fury is a beautifull thing. :cool:

You could go 1 handed, but honestly blizzard more or less crippled the 1 handed druid by giving everyone else grief ( you could use it, but its 9 / 5 pfff ).

[sonikki_]

You're never going to do better then tomb reaver.

You're damage over time will beat any other weapon you could consider.

2 shaels and a zod is the choice of champions. A 6 / 4 fury is a beautifull thing. :cool:

You could go 1 handed, but honestly blizzard more or less crippled the 1 handed druid by giving everyone else grief ( you could use it, but its 9 / 5 pfff ).
I know someone whos one handed lvl 60 grief druid owns all melee chars (except for smiters ofcourse, maybe them too sometimes)

[F1R3STR1D3R]

9/5 isn't ALLLLLLL that bad considering the damage

[Summerfun]

I´m gonna use Greif pb / Caddy when a shield is needed,

i am only woundering about the 2-handed part...

If i go with the Tomb Reaver instead of Robo-Gpa,

should i use "shael+shael+Zod" or "ed/ias+ed/ias+Zod"
is it worth sacrafising 80 ed for 1 frame faster first attack??

[GandalfTheGhey]

I know someone whos one handed lvl 60 grief druid owns all melee chars (except for smiters ofcourse, maybe them too sometimes)

I know someone who killed hell diablo by himself with a level 1 character in hardcore without dying......

should i use "shael+shael+Zod" or "ed/ias+ed/ias+Zod"
is it worth sacrafising 80 ed for 1 frame faster first attack??

I am sort of a speed junky, so I would say yes, but you would have to talk to someone who has tried both ( maybe ask that guy that made the thread "my charms are finally complete" ).

[inkanddagger]

To clear up the one handed argument - I would liek to see a perfectly build caddy druid beat a perfectly built grief druid. I've dueled enough to know it isn't going to happen.


There is a glitched robo gpa on east with a lo in it. I dig that more than tomb reaver, to be honest.

[GandalfTheGhey]

To clear up the one handed argument - I would liek to see a perfectly build caddy druid beat a perfectly built grief druid. I've dueled enough to know it isn't going to happen.

Unless they fixed fury being interruptable by blocking, a grizwold caddy should beat greif. Its like the old ethereal shaeled bstar problem. It seems like it would own a cruel phase of quickness, but it didnt back in the day ( 1.09 ) because everytime you tried to swing that sucker you would be interrupted by your blocking animation, and since they swung a lot faster then you it would happen almost all the time. You just never got a chance to get off a full fury.

Now if this were paladins, with their uninterruptable zeal, it would be a different story.

The thing that sux, is that neither of those weapons will hold up to a smiter or godly zealadin now, thanks to grief.

*EDIT* I don't understand what is so good about a 200% ethereal great poleaxe with zod and 5 x 40 / 15 jewels. Is the range 5 really worth the damage sacrifice?

[Voice]

Its like the old ethereal shaeled bstar problem. It seems like it would own a cruel phase of quickness, but it didnt ...


Just to let you know estar was one of the best weapons in 09 and it could own a cpboq w/ no problems in the right hands.

As for the orignial discussion I would say its hard to beat tomb .... although if what ink suggested exist i would say that might be worth it to stack up w/ a nice ds setup (guilliums, gores, + gpa = 50 ds w/ mass ar from angelics) and it would help a lot dueling smiters .. ds + range has potential to be > tomb in pvp. Range helps A LOT. But pvm .. you cant beat tomb b/c of the + all resist IMO.

[GandalfTheGhey]

Just to let you know estar was one of the best weapons in 09 and it could own a cpboq w/ no problems in the right hands.

No, bstar was a budget weapon that did not hold up to a 7/4 weapon in werewolf duels. Maybe you mean palladins.

I believe it was Mr Blonde that tried to use an ethereal shaeled baranars in a tourney and got trashed by the 7 / 4 druids. Mr Blonde had some good dueling gear too, and was no newbie.

I used to have a godly werewolf dueler in 1.09 with a cpboq ( later a grizwolds ) and I owned every baranar werewolf I ever dueled.

[Good Fer Nothin SOB]

I have to agree, in .09 I used a Baranars on my fury wolf and on the rare occasion I would duel a friend or two I got eaten up by one of their speedier zealot just because I couldn't get a hit in but when another friend let me borrow his CPBoQ the tables quickly turned.

[inkanddagger]

RUBBISH. I have beaten every cruel of quickness and perfect Lo caddy on east with both eth baranars star, and shael lightsabre. and not fluke accidental wins - I put those weapons on to prove that it could be done. Anyone on east want to witness this? anyone want me to smash their caddy druid's face in with a lightsabre? I have no problem doing it. I am not discussing paper theory here guys, I have DUELED with all of this stuff.


and still on topic with the main discussion:
The art of shift fury makes me partial to range 5 over range 4, even with damage loss.

[Summerfun]

Im having trouble beliving that you can beat every one with LS but
i belive you one the eth B-star thing. (Done it my self)
There are more to playing a druid than just speed and dmg.... Much MORE!!!

Back to the main topic:

so you are saying that the Robo-GPA would be better??
its the only range 5 weapon in the game that can reach 7/4 fury
Well the giant thresher can reach 7/4 to, but less dmg.

[mepersoner]

No, bstar was a budget weapon that did not hold up to a 7/4 weapon in werewolf duels. Maybe you mean palladins.

I believe it was Mr Blonde that tried to use an ethereal shaeled baranars in a tourney and got trashed by the 7 / 4 druids. Mr Blonde had some good dueling gear too, and was no newbie.

I used to have a godly werewolf dueler in 1.09 with a cpboq ( later a grizwolds ) and I owned every baranar werewolf I ever dueled.

E-star (not b-star) was on par with caddy. Better than a CPBoQ, on par with caddy, below cruel myth and cryptic *usually*.

Blonde gave me his eth-baranar's later. Fact is in 1.09 when I was losing with my 416% CCSoQ against a druid, I'd bust out my e-star. There were very few wolves who could beat me at the end of 1.09 (Fury-KTH, but I could beat all the wolves who could beat him) and there was only another guy in 1.10 who could beat me (forget his name at the moment, he messages me on AIM from time to time though) and I routinely switched between e-star and my CCSoQ depending on the opponent.

Of course, now all my stuff is expired or has been stripped and sold throughout the realms, but eh, life goes on. Now I'd go with the griz 3ed/ias + lo and a grief phase as my weapons of choice if I played again.

Edit: As for lightsabre, I toyed with it a little in 1.09, lost a lot because of its low damage, but I could beat a lot of paladins with it for some reason. Not as good as the cruels or caddy or e-baranars or maybe grief, but fun.

[Voice]

No i definitly meant fury wolves. It still does okay today I use estar whenever i duel ... i dont own everyone with it but i do beat a good bit of people with it.

Also iirc in 09 west had some druid tourney and there were two of the top 5 druids were estar druids ... including the #1 spot. The rest were filled up with cruel users. So yes ... estar was a VERY effective weapon in 09.