View Full Version : what the hell.
darkwarlord
02-10-2005, 01:25
I just traded 7pgems for a Buriza on East Ladder, like 5mins ago.
I id'ed it, went nice 195% then like not even a few secs later Connection Interupted msg. Since then, I haven't been able to logon my zon.
And as of now, a few tries later I cant even connect to East?.
wtf?
Evrae Altana
02-10-2005, 02:27
You probably got temp banned from B.Net for god knows what reason. Don't worry though, it's probably just an unfortunate coincidence that you got kicked off right after trading.
Myrakh-2
02-10-2005, 12:10
You *might* have to get a new buriza, though --- unless you had exited the game. "Connection Interrupted" also happens on a game crash, in which case your char wasn't saved.
Also, bnet is very buggy when it comes to certain error conditions. Your case sounds as if the game crashed. Bnet never notices that --- so it thinks you are still in a game. That's why you couldn't get into another game with your char (Symptoms: when you try to create/join a game it freezes for a while, then says "unable to join game"). Eventually that condition would have timed out.
NOTE: logging out won't help --- bnet even notices when you log out due to a crash on your side (pretty simple, considering that such a crash still runs a proper socket shutdown), but logging out never causes it to clean up stale game logins associated with your connection. So you DO have to wait for the error to time out.
NOTE: using another char won't help either. Apparently bnet has the dead login linked to your key or something like that.
Since you kept trying to get on again you triggered the "piss off users" feature of bnet, causing it to temporarily ban you from bnet.
I'm a little confused as to why you had to identify an item you traded for.
Evrae Altana
02-10-2005, 20:48
He probably traded for it while it was still unidentified.
Ladvarian
02-10-2005, 22:58
He probably traded for it while it was still unidentified.
Yea, some people used to believe, probably still do, that if it isn't identified then it is not duped.
Not for sure what came of that rumor or if it was true or not. I just read it on the front page in the news section.
I would suggest that anyone who trades for an item that isn't identified that you check the base type. This will not work for all sets and most certinly not rings or amulets though.
He probably traded for it while it was still unidentified.
Thanks, but that's plenty obvious. What I was getting at was that it seems pretty senseless to not identify a decent item, no matter what the circumstances are.
It looks like someone else gave a possible explanation.
People used to trade for Un-Ided items as a means of telling if it was a dupe or not. When an item is identified it is given a special number by the b.net server. If it is Un-Id then it hasnt yet got the number hence if you id it yourself you know for sure that it isnt a dupe.
Humphrey
03-10-2005, 10:28
When an item is identified it is given a special number by the b.net server. If it is Un-Id then it hasnt yet got the number hence if you id it yourself you know for sure that it isnt a dupe.
No, it always has the number. And it's not the server that gives it to it, the game randomly generates a number when an item drops.
OldSkoolPlaya
03-10-2005, 10:48
The main reason I remember people trading unid stuff was back when 1.09 started. I'll use the 08 gaze and valor for examples. Back in 08 they had all the great stats and skills on them. When 09 came out everything started to be random. So when you id'd it you could get like a 6/6/15 gaze or +1 valor which werent' worth as much as 8/8/20's or +2's. People started trading the unid versions so that other players could try their luck at getting a good helm.
buttershug
03-10-2005, 13:08
People used to trade for Un-Ided items as a means of telling if it was a dupe or not. When an item is identified it is given a special number by the b.net server. If it is Un-Id then it hasnt yet got the number hence if you id it yourself you know for sure that it isnt a dupe.
What would prevent someone from dupeing an unidentified item? I think you mean they belieived it wouldn't show up as a duped item.
Im not sure, i thought it would still gets its on unique code when identified which then altho it was still duped had its own code and wouldnt be deleted ?
carnivore
04-10-2005, 06:44
as far as i know items get their stats when they drop, not when they are identified. i would be logical if they get their item code in the same moment in which they are generated (on drop). identified or not shouldn't make any difference at all, except that one probably wouldn't dupe it, because a (nearly) perfect item would probably still have a lot more value than an unidentified, so it would make more sense to trade for a perfect one and dupe this instead.
on the other hand, ruining the game for everyone by intentionally lagging out servers isn't really a thing that is done by sane people...
krischan
04-10-2005, 11:11
If you got disconnected after you left the game, you will still have your Buriza. Characters get saved when leaving a game.
If you traded in a trade window you will probably have your Buriza as well because characters get saved after using the trade window AFAIK.
If you traded on the ground and you had the Buriza for longer than about 5 minutes before the game crashed and you will probably have it as well because characters get saved regularly while being in a game.
If it was less than 5 minutes and you traded on the ground, there is a chance that your character gets restored from a saved status where he hasn't performed the trade yet.
If you have really bad luck and and traded on the ground, your character might got saved for the last time after you dropped the gems, but before you picked up the Buriza, so both will be gone. This is the typical "muling accident" which people mention from time to time.
If you still have the Buriza in its unid state, it will still be a 195% one after IDing it. Item mods are determined upon creation and not when they get identified.
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