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dallemar
01-10-2005, 11:33
I'm a summoner playing in Hardcore. I've been trying to figure out a way to get max rez's in hell with 300 mf and a decent enough number of plus skils that I can be self sufficient.

Eventually I would like enigma and shako and that good stuff, but I'm not there yet, so in the meantime - while I do have somethings - I was wondering what people would suggest for a middle class Necro lvl 70+ to get all of these.

Thus far thinking.... homunc+pdiamond, wizzy. tarn+ptopaz, 4 ptopaz armor, +3 summon ammy, chance guards, goldwrap (or razor tail if I need more dex for wizzy), CK boots, and rings with +dex for wizzy.

(I actually don't have homunc, but do have +3 boneflame with 24 res, but don't think the investment in str would make sense... so I'll get a homunc instead.)

am I running the risk of not having enough plus skills? How much MF to make me effective? 300?

Should I worry my defnese will be low with that armor? Is the wizzy taking up valuable opportunity for an easy +2 skills?

Mad Mantis
01-10-2005, 20:53
am I running the risk of not having enough plus skills? How much MF to make me effective? 300?

Should I worry my defnese will be low with that armor? Is the wizzy taking up valuable opportunity for an easy +2 skills?

As with all characters survival is what matters most. The rest is secondary. With that in mind you need to make sure your gear supports you well enough to keep you alive. Focus on staying alive first and worry about MF second.

With careful play a Summoner can solo Hell naked. This is a tedious process and not something most people will consider thus the need for more +skills. Since you are hardcore keeping your resists close to max is pretty important. So the Wizzy makes sense. You can use those easy +2 skills when you pre-buff.

You defense will not be high enough. Unless you really focus on defense you will not get an amount that will be workable in Hell so I wouldn't focus on that. Your Skellies are your defense.

About 300 is a good number for MF. Kill speed is more important than high MF when it comes to MF-ing.

Myrakh-2
01-10-2005, 21:16
The interesting question is why you want 300 MF --- you are sacrificing a lot of killing power for that.

For an MF-only build, even Skullders would be better than your plain armor, since it has another +1 skills. Similar for Shako instead of Tarnhelm.

I've always been a big fan of Trang Oul --- slightly short on +skills, but lots of protective mods, insane movement speed, mana and a viable fire attack easily make for that. But hitting 300% MF with it is difficult --- you need a lot of high MF charms, and luck with your +3 summon amulet (MF as secondary mod; I had one last season, but not the first season):

TO with 2 topazes -> 48% MF
Gull on switch -> 100% MF
magic rings with MF and mana -> let's say another 50% MF
Summon Amulet with lets say 25% MF

Still only gets you to about 225%, so you'd have to add the rest with charms. Not counting charms you would be sacrificing killing power at all, but I've always replaced MF charms with skillers for obvious reasons.

Oh... you could replace the Marrowwalks with MF boots --- looses some skills, but takes you closer to your 300% goal.

IST in a weapon gives another 30% MF IIRC, so you could bring that Gull to 130. Was thinking about doing that last season, but with already 200+ MF, an IST for measly 30% looks like a big waste.