mf sorc decision

[slappyslapnuts]

I tryed searchin for mf sorc and so on but nothin was comin up so what type of cold sorc is best for mf? Blizzard or Orb..
Also what mf gear am i lookin to wear, thanks

[Immortality]

Gear: Gull 100% mf is enough.


It really doesn't matter witch type of sorc you choose. Blizz is faster but I like Orbers more Imo.

[StolenFlipFlops]

Gear: Gull 100% mf is enough.


It really doesn't matter witch type of sorc you choose. Blizz is faster but I like Orbers more Imo.


Depends really on what you're mf'ing... I chose orb because I mostly do meph runs, and out of the available elements, mephisto has the lowest resistance to cold.

Sorc's are great because they don't rely solely on equipment to kill. My sorc is currently lvl 74 and takes on nm meph easy as pie wearing full mf gear. Not one item is to enhance her killing ability, and she takes mephisto just fine. I concentrated more on mana, energy shield, and high defense via shiver armor. Mephisto's melee attacks are pretty darn weak, so I simply teleport directly on top of him.. static a few times and orb a couple times.. dead very quickly. Normal mephisto is about 1 orb.. maybe 1.25 with 20/20 orb/max so static isn't even required when hunting for lower level uniques.

I used tancreds armor and amulet for 78%, 3ptopaz helm, two nagels (if I found two perfect magic [40%] rings I'd wear them, 25 mf boots, nearly perfect chance guards, goldwrap, and mils shield... when mfing nm meph I normally replace the shield with a 3pdiamon shield considering I only lose 20%. Once I find a gull, I'll wear it as well. With this setup I'm right around 320% mf.. with gull, of course itwould be 420%.

I have a fairly low level of static.. as my sorc is purely MF. rather than pump warmth, static, or anything else.. after maxing orb and mastery I'm maxing shiver armor and energy shield.


Of course she sucks for anything other than MFing normal and nm meph (eventually she'll be strong enough for hell meph). My primary goal was for her to not die trying, being that I play hardcore... so far so good, even with a bit of lag at times.

I also MF normal and nm Diablo.. for this I swap a few items for faster cast to deal with tele'in CS then swap back for Diablo himself.

PS - if you plan to use trancred's armor and amulet (I recommend you do for all out-mf.. as it leaves everything else open for mf gear since no armor gives MF.. aside from trancreds... in a way. The partial set bonus gives you +15 to strength.. so keep that in mind, you may want to make a str helm to equip the armor to let the bonus sustain itself.

[TheRenderer]

I find nm andy and even hell andy benefit me the most to find good drops. I personally have a nm andy sorc equipped with the following:

50% Tarnhelm
40% chancies
Gwrap
Bslipper (34% mf 19 str boots)
Shard
Eyeless
2xSojs
Snecklace (48% mf ammy)

And I do great when I riad nm games.

If you are going andy, go fball. She has -50% fire res throughout the difficulties and is easy to clean up.

For meph, I would suggest frozen orb. It hits more than blizz. More hits = faster kill.

[Immortality]

Depends really on what you're mf'ing... I chose orb because I mostly do meph runs, and out of the available elements, mephisto has the lowest resistance to cold.

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Lol.... Blizz is cold... Duh :lol:


Sorc's are great because they don't rely solely on equipment to kill. My sorc is currently lvl 74 and takes on nm meph easy as pie wearing full mf gear. Not one item is to enhance her killing ability, and she takes mephisto just fine. I concentrated more on mana, energy shield, and high defense via shiver armor. Mephisto's melee attacks are pretty darn weak, so I simply teleport directly on top of him.. static a few times and orb a couple times.. dead very quickly. Normal mephisto is about 1 orb.. maybe 1.25 with 20/20 orb/max so static isn't even required when hunting for lower level uniques.

Its true that sorcs don't rely to heavly on equipment. But the more mf you equip the less killing power you have. And thus you are more vulnerable you are to attacks.

50% Tarnhelm
40% chancies
Gwrap
Bslipper (34% mf 19 str boots)
Shard
Eyeless
2xSojs
Snecklace (48% mf ammy)

Wow, you must be pretty damn rich. I think your bull****ing, but whatever.
I want to see you survive in hell 8 player raid games with all those mf items.

Having all that mf is pretty much useless, since pretty much all classic uniques are umm... crap. Go for rares. :thumbsup: 100% is enough and you don't sacrifice any killing power.

[Immortality]

For meph, I would suggest frozen orb. It hits more than blizz. More hits = faster kill.

Uh.... have you ever seen the max damage of blizz? and then compare to the max damage of orb. Hrmm.....

[eggo]

Orb explodes, which does extra dmg, especially if meph is at the center of the attack. Blizz doesn't have a target, it only splashes around the selected area, not always hitting meph..so orb is ok, you can mf at lvl 30 since that's already enough to do good dmg.

[TheRenderer]

Wow, you must be pretty damn rich. I think your bull****ing, but whatever.
I want to see you survive in hell 8 player raid games with all those mf items.

Having all that mf is pretty much useless, since pretty much all classic uniques are umm... crap. Go for rares. :thumbsup: 100% is enough and you don't sacrifice any killing power.

I can assure you I am not BS anyone. If you need proof, I am on uswest on account *Liquidmusic.

I only used the mf gear to raid andy. Actually, my sorc is called MyAndySorc and she raids NM games. Typically anywhere from 4-8 and I find wonderful items. I prefer NM to Hell Andy any day of the week.

You should see my other equipment. I am not rich, but I am well set ;)

[TheRenderer]

Orb explodes, which does extra dmg, especially if meph is at the center of the attack. Blizz doesn't have a target, it only splashes around the selected area, not always hitting meph..so orb is ok, you can mf at lvl 30 since that's already enough to do good dmg.


I agree. Blizz does awsome damage, but when it's used against a moving target and where it uses random targeting rather than a single target like Orb, it leaves much to be desired in terms of damage-to-hit ratio.

Blizz is more crowd control, whereas Orb is more single opponent oriented.

[Dacar92]

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Thanks

[Zodijackyl]

My level 90 blizzer does alot more damage than my 88 orber, but I prefer orb for MF.

Orb requires fewer levels to max, and most players do not go for level 80+. An orb mfer is effective at level 67 easily... max orb/ibolt/mastery, one in telek/tele, static, warmth... my blizzer has no static field, no warmth, one in telek/telep. Static field with 70FCR takes down hell meph quite well, and orb is more effective from far away, and even with 75lr and all vit, my blizzer takes a good amount of damage from meph.

[Rawly]

I find nm andy and even hell andy benefit me the most to find good drops. I personally have a nm andy sorc equipped with the following:

50% Tarnhelm
40% chancies
Gwrap
Bslipper (34% mf 19 str boots)
Shard
Eyeless
2xSojs
Snecklace (48% mf ammy)

And I do great when I riad nm games.

If you are going andy, go fball. She has -50% fire res throughout the difficulties and is easy to clean up.

For meph, I would suggest frozen orb. It hits more than blizz. More hits = faster kill.

This is non-ladder you cant get boots with more than 25% mf any more, and you dont get str on boots any more either.

[fredsta54]

My favourite mf sorc is the blizzard sorc. They dont "need" fcr, they do great dmg with no +skills, and their attack is long ranged.

Although most would say a mix between mf, resists, and +skills is the best- i prefer to go all out mf.

For maximum mf-

Tancreds ammy and armour
72 mf helm
2Xhigh mf rings
high mf rare boots
goldwrap
gull
chancies

For up to 435 mf. It should also be noted that you can acheieve 436 mf using a setup with a ptopazed rare armour, but thats not worth it for 1 more mf, imo.




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rest to blizz n syerngies. You wont find static useful with 0 fcr and a high dmg blizz.
Nor wamrth with no +% mana or points invested to mana.

Note that as this setu p is extremely fragile and has no energy shield- i would go all vita with mabye 50 energy

Also note that the only places this build can mf without dieng an extremely fast death are-
Cows, mephisto (primary target), and ancient tunnels (no cold immunes, golden chest, ok exp)

Of course it can mf everywhere in nm ;)






Fred