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slappyslapnuts
15-09-2005, 20:50
Well my frenzy barb is lvl 50 and i was still having problems killin in nm im using a rake and my 104dmg 40ias axe its just killin slow still :( ive got 13 in frenzy, 13 in bow, 8 in Taunt, 9 in DS, 8 in Warcry and its still killing really slow, and my zeal pala was just as bad like in hell it stood no chance near the Cs.

Oh and what dmg are Javazons lookin at?
And can HS palas do some serious dmg Ie kill boss's just as fast as ww barbs?

Fearlessone
18-09-2005, 10:17
Sorry to hear that. One way to get partly out of that problem is to let someone else do the max bo'ing, and u put the skill points into damage. Are u using goblin toes? They arent necessary for ww barbs (but noticeably help) and are certainly noticeable by any other melee chars. Another way out is to play with amping necros. Or make sure u are partying with paladins for the conc aura. You would ideally like the fanaticism aura, which will make u awesomely fast and high ar, but thats rare to find nowadays.

Kevin William Cox
20-09-2005, 08:53
Frenzy is hard to do. But I like'em too. First, look at the syenergys, you have to max DS and Frenzy and Taunt to get the full effect. Knowing what weapon you want to use helps. Then you can max your weapon choice. Now that's 80 skill points right there. Get enough Str. and Dex. for weapons and armor only, then dump the rest in Vitality. Life is a must. You have to tank everything. Nothing into energy. Frenzy doesn't burn mana that much. I have a Frenzy Barb, lvl 54, Two Battle Hammers, 73~123 damage each, I do 500~1000 damage. I have 1042 life and had no problem in NM. I'm in hell now and still no problem, except immune to physical. Need to put one in Beserk for that. That'll come later, when I start on shouts. You won't have many skill points left when your done. And where you put them is up to you. BO would be a good choice as you can always use more life. You might wanna remake. Find a good weapon with a MF sorc, first. There great for PvM, not so good for PvP. Good luck! :thumbsup:

fredsta54
21-09-2005, 00:46
Frenzy is hard to do. But I like'em too. First, look at the syenergys, you have to max DS and Frenzy and Taunt to get the full effect. Knowing what weapon you want to use helps. Then you can max your weapon choice. Now that's 80 skill points right there. Get enough Str. and Dex. for weapons and armor only, then dump the rest in Vitality. Life is a must. You have to tank everything. Nothing into energy. Frenzy doesn't burn mana that much. I have a Frenzy Barb, lvl 54, Two Battle Hammers, 73~123 damage each, I do 500~1000 damage. I have 1042 life and had no problem in NM. I'm in hell now and still no problem, except immune to physical. Need to put one in Beserk for that. That'll come later, when I start on shouts. You won't have many skill points left when your done. And where you put them is up to you. BO would be a good choice as you can always use more life. You might wanna remake. Find a good weapon with a MF sorc, first. There great for PvM, not so good for PvP. Good luck! :thumbsup:


I already told him the best frenzy setup. Thanks for your insight, though.





Fred

@slappy: Mabye i could send you my frenzy barb on single player, so you can see how a well equipped one does in hell. At lvl 80 he has no problem soloing hell cs. Slowly, due to my paranoia of IM, but surely.



Fred

Kevin William Cox
21-09-2005, 15:25
Fredsta replied to my post, I'm honored. It's was your build I read in the stratagy forum. I liked the Naga's idea, but couldn't find anyone good ones. Hence the BattleHammers. The last 20 skill points, do you have any advice? I was thinking Increased Speed. Will that affect frenzy speed or just Run/Walk? Or a combo of two or more? Per say, BO, Shout, Iron skin, and Natural Resistances. Your advice would be most appreciated.

slappyslapnuts
21-09-2005, 18:31
You have done the damage build i myself went the singer build For the sheer Pvm since there not really gonna be able to duel barb that is even remotely good, i made my cleg barb hes level 78 and dominates even godly barbs at the moment its well funny took me ages to get biggins tho