Holy Shock Zealot viable?

[stanzaman]

Since there are already some zealot threads out there, I thought I might throw out another. I'm trying to make a holy shock zealot. The hope is that he will be able to kill in hell with his physical and lightning damage attack (well, except for the occasional dual immune). Right now, he's something like level 30 and going to start nightmare.

The plan so far is to max zeal and sacrafice for physical damage, and holy shock and resist lightning for lightning damage. After maxing those sometime in the 70's, I'll dump the rest into salvation as it is a weak holy shock synergy. Interestingly enough, I only have to "waste" 3 points for prereqs on this entire build - holy fire, might, and holy freeze. Two of those skills will occasionally come in handy anyway.

For gear, I figure IAS is going to be king, as you want to deliver shocks as fast as possible. Here's what I figure, though none of this is final:
Death's set for leech, IAS, resist, cannot be frozen
Twitch for IAS, blocking
Goblintoe for crushing blow
Wormskull(!) for leech and poison damage (prevent monster heal)
Angelic ring/ammy set for AR

Slots I haven't really decided on:
Weapon (I have a level 25 req 125 damage 10% IAS battle hammer for now, but I'm thinking a BH may be too slow)
Sheild (Is the unique spiked sheild any good with the open wounds, I may have to settle for a diamond sheild here too)
Ring Slot - Probably have to get mana leech here
Is clegraw's sword and sheild actually supposed to be any good???

One problem I see is that I'm really going to have to work on his resists for hell. And he'll still need a ton of leech to survive too with all the penalties.

[slappyslapnuts]

For a weapon if you cant find a Naga with Ias go for clegaws for Pvm you can pick up a naga later on like, as i said before clegaws Range 1 so if ur gonna duel someone u will get litrally like 1 hit on the barb or something lol, also you realllllllly loose loads of possible resists with clegaws, i think a pdimond shield would be ok but your gonna need a grim shield A nice bit of defense and also since your missing out on the +2 20/30 you will want some nice bonus's on the grim shield., also You need to max zeal for the +dmg and +AR

[fredsta54]

Dont use a bh. The dream weapon would be a +2 paladin +3 holy shock 40 ias high dmg divine scepter, but thats kinda unrealistic. Clegaws is good, but id rather have a weapon with high dmg and + skills on a tesladin. You will want a 5 fpa zeal. 4 fpa is 2 hard to acheive w/o fanat. 6 fpa wont be the end of the world for pvm.

Yes, they are viable.

You wont want 30/20 on your shield if you have holy shield, as it gives u a 2 frame fbr and max block, and you need 86 fbr to reach the next frame (impossible, so dont bother with the more xpensive 30/20)

Defense is good, but you can do fine without.

Dont use twitch. Goldskin is better imo, unless you really need the ias, so use a wepn with a base speed of -10 is possible.

In general for melee pvm characters on classic, you dont need 2X angelic rings and ammy. Use angelic ammy, ring, and a rare with ar, resists, and leach.

You will be killing so fast the psn dmg on workskull will be useless, use a rare helm with fhr//resists or tarnhelm.

And, for the record, a 7k holy shock 5 fpa zeal with phys dmg rapes hell. Non light immunes at least.

a 3pdiamond shield ise probbaly your best bet if your resists arent maxed, since your leach wont be good to due to lowish phys dmg. On pure zealots, resists are overrated.


@stanzaman: range on a zealot is not that important, even in pvp, its all about positioning yourself.

Also, the cleg fana zealot setup i posted a couple days ago kills faster, and is better than the 40 ias naga///rare setup you have. Ive tried both, clegs goes for the win.

Oh yeah, and at lvl 85, with the ds, clegaws sword does about the same avg dmg as a ~150 bh. With 4 fpa, this is godly.














Fred

[Fearlessone]

You will be killing so fast the psn dmg on workskull will be useless, use a rare helm with fhr//resists or tarnhelm.
And, for the record, a 7k holy shock 5 fpa zeal with phys dmg rapes hell. Non light immunes at least.
How did u come up with 7K? :scratch: Is that with a +2pal/+3HS weapon and tarn? I figured around 3.5-5.4K from lvl 20-24 HS, using a +2 pal ammy and +2 pal weapon for the higher damage, clegs sword+angelics ammy for the lower.

I would have suspected that a wormskull would be good around large mobs, which happens lots. Its also nice in Nm, and this guy said he was lvl 30.

I almost never see this build in play. We all know that nearly all high lvl pallys are hammerdins, and a few foh'ers sprinkled about. Then come fan zealots. Lastly HS pallys. All of them seem to apologize for their slow killing speed and quit playing after a few outings in late hell. Sad... :hanky:

a 3pdiamond shield ise probbaly your best bet if your resists arent maxed, since your leach wont be good to due to lowish phys dmg. On pure zealots, resists are overrated.
Good points. I've found getting at least 55% lightning is essential. For cold resistance u can get away with a bit more, watch out for cold enchanted's frost nova. For fire, this is risky around the Infector. Fast hits without leech, many lightning bosses seem to instakill, no warning, u are suddenly dead. This did not happen to me before 1.10, even multishots usually gave u enough time to swallow a full rejuv. :cheesy:

Also, the cleg fana zealot setup i posted a couple days ago kills faster, and is better than the 40 ias naga///rare setup you have. Ive tried both, clegs goes for the win.
Kills faster than this HS setup? Both with gtoes?

Oh yeah, and at lvl 85, with the ds, clegaws sword does about the same avg dmg as a ~150 bh. With 4 fpa, this is godly. Yeah, its godly if u are using fan aura, but the HS damage here would be overwhelming ur physical damage. Not sure if u are talking about clegs for fan or HS here. For clegs sword to do that much damge u have to use either the clegs gloves or shield. If u use the gloves, u get knockback, and unless things have changed since 1.10(and my how they have changed!), u dont want knockback as a zealot. If u use the shield, then forget the resists on the 3pdiamond above.

[slappyslapnuts]

fredsta seems to have a grudge against resistances its hard to get full block with Clegs shield to, and my naga gives me enough speed to just use It + aura + like bloodfist to reach 4 Frame zeal AND give me a 3 pdimond shield and nightshade belt Which in total is about 70 to all resistances not including any other items. with goldskin its full resistances in hell if u use like a Fhr/resist helm which seems to be fine and your not even sacraficing equiptment if anything its allowing you to survive better.

[fredsta54]

fredsta seems to have a grudge against resistances its hard to get full block with Clegs shield to, and my naga gives me enough speed to just use It + aura + like bloodfist to reach 4 Frame zeal AND give me a 3 pdimond shield and nightshade belt Which in total is about 70 to all resistances not including any other items. with goldskin its full resistances in hell if u use like a Fhr/resist helm which seems to be fine and your not even sacraficing equiptment if anything its allowing you to survive better.


twitch + clegs shield (you need twitch for 4 fpa) = 65% block. With holy shield, its easily maxed.

I dont have a grudge against resistances. I just feel that without them its not the end of the world. I beleive a zealot with pure strength and max resists and high defense (viable) survives about as well as a low resists low def zealot with pure vita.(also nice, and the best way to go with clegs)

@fearlessone: yes, 7k dmg is with dream eq. A more realistic number is ~5k. Thats still a lot of dmg.

I was talking about clegs for fan. I wouldnt use clegs on hs paladin, no way.






Fred

[Fearlessone]

@fearlessone: yes, 7k dmg is with dream eq. A more realistic number is ~5k. Thats still a lot of dmg.
I was talking about clegs for fan. I wouldnt use clegs on hs paladin, no way.

Thx for answering my questions. Well, that would mean a typical good setup would yield 5k damage or an avg of 2.5K, accounting for the low minimum damage of HS. It would probably be a bit higher than that since ur minumum would include the rune sword or naga or whatevers physical damage.