Treachy Armor for Strafer?

[hairy_brute]

Hey,

I'm currently in the process of building a strafer on ladder and was wondering about what armor to use.

As I see it, the new RuneWord treachery looks very tempting because of the chance to cast venom + ias. Would will make it alot easier to hit the strafing breakpoints. (Although that fade is damn annoying, making the entire screen black).

What are peoples thoughts about this and if this sin't a good armor, what should I look for?

Also, i have 3 os Mage plate, should I make it in that or try and find a 3os elite light armor (which are pretty expensive I assume).?

Thanks
HB

[Scarpachi]

The IAS is nice. And the Fade is pretty helpful. Fade gives you resists, it does not darken the screen, thats Cloak of Shadows.

I really can't think of a better armor besides something filled with ED/IAS jewels.

[hairy_brute]

OK good. I'm glad it doesn't make the screen dark. I was looking at fade again, never really played assassins and the more I look at its stats, the more I like it. Is the +15% phy dmg reduce the same thing as dmg reduce on shaft/ gaze?

If so then we are talking about: 45%ias, +60 Resist All, +15% Dmg Reduce, + 300 - 325 Poison over .4 seconds. I'm suprised for zons aren't using this (they could be , and I'm just out of the loop).

{What's the lvl req, 49?}

Better go shopping for a Lem.....
HB

[Leohappy]

If so then we are talking about: 45%ias, +60 Resist All, +15% Dmg Reduce, + 300 - 325 Poison over .4 seconds. I'm suprised for zons aren't using this (they could be , and I'm just out of the loop).It's not that simple... you need to get hit quite some before fade will activate at all - not so great when you are a bowzon. Statistically 1 in every 20 hits will produce a fade on you.

And RW levelreq is 43.

[Wmeredith]

If so then we are talking about: 45%ias, +60 Resist All, +15% Dmg Reduce, + 300 - 325 Poison over .4 seconds. I'm suprised for zons aren't using this (they could be , and I'm just out of the loop).



We are, and it's fantastic.

Treachery is giving Duress and Lionheart a run-for-their-money value-wise. It's sick armor. Go find a flame to stand in to trigger your fade. It lasts forever so it'll probably get triggered again before it wears off. Fortitude will always be the Holy Grail for bowies (or at least until A.Summit releases the 3 new ones that aren't out yet...), but this armor is just fanatstic. It makes a Glass Cannon truly viable in hell, 45 ias on an armor is godly, and the venom is just gravy.

[SweetSorcie]

We are, and it's fantastic.

Treachery is giving Duress and Lionheart a run-for-their-money value-wise. It's sick armor. Go find a flame to stand in to trigger your fade. It lasts forever so it'll probably get triggered again before it wears off. Fortitude will always be the Holy Grail for bowies (or at least until A.Summit releases the 3 new ones that aren't out yet...), but this armor is just fanatstic. It makes a Glass Cannon truly viable in hell, 45 ias on an armor is godly, and the venom is just gravy.

i'm level 89 on the ladder, been using treachery since about level 80.
the fade is awesome when it kicks in. venom kicks in usually the first strafe or multishot for me.

this is substantially better than any unique for bowazons. and cheap!

[hairy_brute]

Grr. I almost had my treachery: had 3 runes + 3 os armor.

Go to self mule (yes it was stupid)......... drop everything.........try and reconnect "Unable to Connect....."
Sweet....Bnet.....Sweet.

Well time to trade back up for the lem.

What kind of armor should I make it in, I had a 3 socket mage plate that I was going to use, frankly because 3os elite light would be more expensive then the runes inside.

Good tip on the flame. I hadn't thought about that.

Thanks,
HB

[phool]

I like great hauberks and they're very common, but that'll raise your required strength to 118. A scarab husk found in nm cows or on a nm baal run should - i think - get 3 sockets from larzuk. Highest def husk I've found is 512 (superior), but I'm sure you could get higher.

[BatTheMan]

I like great hauberks and they're very common, but that'll raise your required strength to 118. A scarab husk found in nm cows or on a nm baal run should - i think - get 3 sockets from larzuk. Highest def husk I've found is 512 (superior), but I'm sure you could get higher.
naw screw the hauberk they look so ugly on a zon go for a WireFleece now that's sexy. Also don't use anything else than circlet or tiara you don't want to mess that hair up now don't you :D. About the guy who said cloak of shadow is anyone it is the best damn thing for an assassin or amazon it blinds enemy and reduces there defence and boost yours... You just strafe away and it auto aims anyway. My assassin is a child of the night so. A little of topic but I had to defend that wonderfull skill :D.

[BatTheMan]

a side note if you didnt know this level 15 = 15% PDR and curse length reduces by 79% so it's good also.

[Lensor]

a side note if you didnt know this level 15 = 15% PDR and curse length reduces by 79% so it's good also.


Doesnt fade also reduce shrine lenght? Or did they fix this?

[BatTheMan]

Doesnt fade also reduce shrine lenght? Or did they fix this?
nope they didn't fix it.

[bluedragoon]

can the fade and the venom be on at the same time ? Or just for other classes then assasins.

[JanusJones]

can the fade and the venom be on at the same time ? Or just for other classes then assasins.

They can! Which is why the armor is so sweet!

Check this:

Botd bow
Treachery Hauberk (I like the look! :p )
Trang Oul's Gloves (+25% poison skill damage . . .)

Now you have level 20 P-Nova's when you kill and arrows which deal very considerable poison damage! Try this out on a Strafer or a Multi-zon (multi would be particularly nice for the screen coverage + P-Novas) and see how it works, people! :clap:

[Din moscha]

I just noticed that the fade only triggers when you get hit. Since i am a javazon with max block I dont get hit very much. Does it still trigger often enough for it to be usable? I am short on resists so I must switch for another armor if I dont get resist from treachury

[Bloodfire]

Like it was suggested earlier, go find some fire and stand in it until fade triggers :)

[phool]

They can! Which is why the armor is so sweet!

Check this:

Botd bow
Treachery Hauberk (I like the look! :p )
Trang Oul's Gloves (+25% poison skill damage . . .)

Now you have level 20 P-Nova's when you kill and arrows which deal very considerable poison damage! Try this out on a Strafer or a Multi-zon (multi would be particularly nice for the screen coverage + P-Novas) and see how it works, people! :clap:

Doesn't work very well at all, sorry... Maybe switching armor to bramble after activation would help though

edit: @bluedragon
before 1.10 I think it was, fade, venom and BoS were mutually exclusive. Now BoS and fade are mutually exclusive only.

[hairy_brute]

Well thanks guys for all your input. I finally traded for a 3os elite Armor and I'm loving my zon. Although I can't kill as fast as other characters, I'm doing fine through hell so far.

I had some questions about the poison damage from venom. It says its over .4 seconds right? How does other poison damage that you may get from gear / charms effect this duration. Is it alright to have other poison damage with longer durations or does this affect venom's damage?

Thanks
HB

{oh and if anyone has a 167-170 WitchWild upped or non upped bow on East Ladder, I'm in need }

[psych]

Check out the statistics forum or the assassin forum, but your venom will reduce the length of your other poison damage to .4sec also.