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paladinking
14-08-2005, 23:14
Somebody please help me im with a friend in act 2 hell.

Im a lvl 79 paladin i have a lot of good stuff so here is a list oh and I dont play on ladder.


Helm Kira's Gaurdian Tiara

Armor Enigma Def 1195

Gloves Immortal Kings Forge

Rings A] Ring Of The Giant +14 str B]Manald Heal

Amulet Plauge Heart +1 pal skills replenish life +8 +20 max stamina +14% lightning Resist

Boots Natalya's Soul

Evrae Altana
15-08-2005, 01:54
Looking at your gear, I assume that you're a zealot. First, I would replace the IK gloves with Dracul's. The life tap plus life leech is awesome. Secondly, replace one of the rings with a Ravenfrost for +dex, AR, and cannot be frozen. Also, try to trade your Enigma in for a COH, which better suits a zealot. You can also use Wartravs for boots because they add A LOT of damage. As for the helm: unless you have horrible resists, I'd replace Kira's with Vampire Gaze.

Cadet
15-08-2005, 03:30
Coh is even worse for a Zealot than Enigma is. About the only thing better on it than Nig is the resists, but that's covered by the Kira's, I would assume.

Unless you're one of those uber picky, 'must have teh 1337-est gear', I'd say stay with what you have as it is, but get yourself a Ravenfrost, if anything for the AR, Dex, and Absorb, being the CBF is covered by Kira's. And there is no dishonor in using potions in PvM; why everyone thinks they need Drac's is beyond me.

Evrae Altana
15-08-2005, 03:37
Coh is even worse for a Zealot than Enigma is. About the only thing better on it than Nig is the resists, but that's covered by the Kira's, I would assume.
The resists from Kira's alone won't cut it in Hell. COH has leech, resists, and + damage to some monster types, something Enigma doesn't have. The only thing Enigma has over COH is the +str, but even COH has some +str.


And there is no dishonor in using potions in PvM; why everyone thinks they need Drac's is beyond me.
In case you haven't noticed, there are some monsters, including bosses, that cannot be leeched from. The life tap from Dracs allows you to leech from these unleechable monsters, which can be a lifesaver in many situations, for both you and your merc.

FreezerBurn
15-08-2005, 04:17
It's hard to give you feedback not knowing for sure what kind of pally you're building. There are many better item options for every build, but most of them can be pretty expensive. How much are you wanting to spend?

paladinking
15-08-2005, 05:36
Sorry Couldn't finish my gear earlier had to go somewhere anyways on to weapons

I play SP a lot so I have a hard time against those immune to physical because that's about all I do but when I have to I use vengance otherwise I just run and reroll

My resist is not realy super high but my exile has all resist +44 and 571 defense so I use that when I have to.

weapon A] breath of the dying ogre maul B] hand of justice cryptic sword and exile royal shield

life 1064
mana213
stam 437

str 296 [after bonus]
dex 141[after bonus]
via 275[with only a +30 bonus]
eng 69 [after bonus

enigma update now the defense is 1281

charge atk rating A]BOTD 2257 B]Hand of justice 1701

Charge dmg A]BOTD 4694-6514 B]Hand Of Justice 401-3886

zeal atk rating A]BOTD 1813 B] Hand Of Justice 1377

zeal dmg A] BOTD 2460-3237 B]Hand Of Justice 122-2116


hear is a list of skills I use most of the time

defiance 7
might 23
conviction 4
zeal 5
charge 5
holy shield 4
holy bolt 11
salvation 23
fanaticism 11

belt thundergods vigor

Not realy sure what type of pally I am because this was my very first character so I had no idea of what I should have done so I guess this was a zealot but im not realy sure.Oh and just so you know im new here.

paladinking
15-08-2005, 05:47
Looking at your gear, I assume that you're a zealot. First, I would replace the IK gloves with Dracul's. The life tap plus life leech is awesome. Secondly, replace one of the rings with a Ravenfrost for +dex, AR, and cannot be frozen. Also, try to trade your Enigma in for a COH, which better suits a zealot. You can also use Wartravs for boots because they add A LOT of damage. As for the helm: unless you have horrible resists, I'd replace Kira's with Vampire Gaze.



The thing is I dont find a lot of stuff thats you know super good I havent found the dracul's and I havent found ravenfrost yet either but I can make a COH and also I havent found wartravs oh and I probally going to keep kira's because cannot be frozen that realy helps me when I use zeal because if I use zeal and get froze then a bunch of big bad bosses and minions surround me and im going super slow because of freeze I most of the time die oh and I hate iron maiden!

paladinking
15-08-2005, 05:50
The resists from Kira's alone won't cut it in Hell. COH has leech, resists, and + damage to some monster types, something Enigma doesn't have. The only thing Enigma has over COH is the +str, but even COH has some +str.



In case you haven't noticed, there are some monsters, including bosses, that cannot be leeched from. The life tap from Dracs allows you to leech from these unleechable monsters, which can be a lifesaver in many situations, for both you and your merc.

Thar's why I use salvation or exile when I need to so no real big deal there

If I need life tap I have exile as my 2nd weapon along with hand of justice so dont need to worry about that very much.Im thinking about making a BOTD out of a phase blade when I find one I got the runes but I just need the weapon I dont go online just LAN.

FreezerBurn
15-08-2005, 05:57
if i were you i'd rebuild from scratch. i don't think you'll do very well in hell with those stats. If you're building a zealot, you want 20 in zeal, 20 in sacrifice (synergy), 20 in fanaticism (your main aura) and 20 in holy shield for huge def.check out the guides for the details.

dang79
15-08-2005, 07:12
Seems to me you have way too much strength. And thats even after you take away the str bonus from enigma.

And you're skills are placed wrong. You got to specialise and max the vital skills, leaving out the others or merely putting one point if its a prereq.

paladinking
15-08-2005, 14:09
Seems to me you have way too much strength. And thats even after you take away the str bonus from enigma.

And you're skills are placed wrong. You got to specialise and max the vital skills, leaving out the others or merely putting one point if its a prereq.



The armor I made enigma out of I needed 230 str to where it and this was my first guy from a year or to ago when I first started. and my base str is 130 remember I use BOTD

paladinking
15-08-2005, 14:17
if i were you i'd rebuild from scratch. i don't think you'll do very well in hell with those stats. If you're building a zealot, you want 20 in zeal, 20 in sacrifice (synergy), 20 in fanaticism (your main aura) and 20 in holy shield for huge def.check out the guides for the details.



The thing is I have been doing very well in hell even by myself when I just want to go solo and when I do nightmare baal runs its easier than anything in the world oh and me and my friend have started new guys so np there I started a new zealot and he startred a new meteorb. we started just last week or so and we are already in nigtmare act 2 at the start of the harem or whatever

FreezerBurn
15-08-2005, 19:03
The thing is I have been doing very well in hell even by myself when I just want to go solo and when I do nightmare baal runs its easier than anything in the world oh and me and my friend have started new guys so np there I started a new zealot and he startred a new meteorb. we started just last week or so and we are already in nigtmare act 2 at the start of the harem or whatever

Even so, you'll do much better if your stats are properly placed. Monsters that take 5 hits now will go down in one. To give you an idea, I just built a lvl 80 zealot that can solo any part of hell, including baal runs, with ease. With your gear you should be able to also. If you have friends to rush and baal you, you can get to lvl 80 or so in a day.

paladinking
15-08-2005, 21:17
The resists from Kira's alone won't cut it in Hell. COH has leech, resists, and + damage to some monster types, something Enigma doesn't have. The only thing Enigma has over COH is the +str, but even COH has some +str.



In case you haven't noticed, there are some monsters, including bosses, that cannot be leeched from. The life tap from Dracs allows you to leech from these unleechable monsters, which can be a lifesaver in many situations, for both you and your merc.


well im thinking about making COH depending if I can find a 4 socket peice of armor with good defense but if I cant i will make a smoke with some armor
and when I use exile my defense goes up to 7000 almost and my merc's is over 7000 I think and he is a barb.

paladinking
15-08-2005, 21:21
Coh is even worse for a Zealot than Enigma is. About the only thing better on it than Nig is the resists, but that's covered by the Kira's, I would assume.

Unless you're one of those uber picky, 'must have teh 1337-est gear', I'd say stay with what you have as it is, but get yourself a Ravenfrost, if anything for the AR, Dex, and Absorb, being the CBF is covered by Kira's. And there is no dishonor in using potions in PvM; why everyone thinks they need Drac's is beyond me.


my kira's has only +58 to resists so im thinking of making a COH in case I need resists BOTD and DMG+AR

Masas
15-08-2005, 21:45
Also your damage is pretty lame for a lvl 79. My lvl 24 charger does close to the damage you do, while his weapon is a a mere 297ED Eth Bonesnap socketed with a 10ed 13max jewel.

paladinking
16-08-2005, 03:15
ok made a COH now with exile resists max in hell and defense is around 750 or so .

lightning 85
fire 80
cold 80
poison 75

Cadet
16-08-2005, 06:42
In case you haven't noticed, there are some monsters, including bosses, that cannot be leeched from. The life tap from Dracs allows you to leech from these unleechable monsters, which can be a lifesaver in many situations, for both you and your merc.
In case you haven't noticed, there are some monsters, including bosses, that cannot be leeched from.
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No ****?

Potions. What do you not understand about the use of potions? Not flaming you or anything, but seriously, is there something wrong with them? Is it too much work to move your finger an inch or less to hit the 1, 2, 3, or 4 key to activate one, or hold shift with a pinky and hit one of said keys to give one to the merc?

Then again, I'm one of those weirdos that does not rely on Lifetap, and has never used Drac's or Exile on a char, and I get by just fine.

Evrae Altana
16-08-2005, 07:43
Potions. What do you not understand about the use of potions? Not flaming you or anything, but seriously, is there something wrong with them? Is it too much work to move your finger an inch or less to hit the 1, 2, 3, or 4 key to activate one, or hold shift with a pinky and hit one of said keys to give one to the merc?
When did I say that using potions was wrong? By all means use them, but red pots take time to work, and purple ones only drop from uniques and champs. Meanwhile, life tap can refill your life in an instant. And no, I'm not lazy and I do move my finger that one inch to use a potion when I need it.

lightning 85
fire 80
cold 80
poison 75
That's good enough for Hell.

paladinking
17-08-2005, 14:05
Alright hit lvl 80 yesterday and im hardly taking any damage!and we are through the arcane sanctuary [thank goodness] I always hated that place anyways probalay going to kill duriel tonight or tommorow night either way wont be long before I challenge the gloams! bring it on!

plazz
17-08-2005, 16:41
put on a griswalds armor with 3 socets u can put 3 dimonds a get a load of resists

paladinking
17-08-2005, 21:02
put on a griswalds armor with 3 socets u can put 3 dimonds a get a load of resists


if you are talkin about the onate plate i think I will put some um runes or diamond which in body armor they add to attack rating so ill think about that but the body armor is all I have of his set.Thanks for the idea.

paladinking
18-08-2005, 06:42
Alright killed duriel NP she lasted shorter than baal nightmare players set to 8 and she wasn't immune to anything at all so no we are in act 3 hell still NP so far already got the brain and the eye 2 down to to go!Oh one boss dropped the oculus preety good minus the teleport.

paladinking
18-08-2005, 06:47
When did I say that using potions was wrong? By all means use them, but red pots take time to work, and purple ones only drop from uniques and champs. Meanwhile, life tap can refill your life in an instant. And no, I'm not lazy and I do move my finger that one inch to use a potion when I need it.


That's good enough for Hell.


well you could find three small purple pots also known as REJUVINATION POTIONS and put them in your cube and transmute to make a big one in fact I have a rejuvie mule with FULL rejuvie's Inv full of them stash and inv

Evrae Altana
18-08-2005, 07:51
well you could find three small purple pots also known as REJUVINATION POTIONS and put them in your cube and transmute to make a big one in fact I have a rejuvie mule with FULL rejuvie's Inv full of them stash and inv
Not everyone has the time nor space to hoard every small rejuv they come across and cube them into a large rejuv. Also, not everyone has the time to mule over rejuvs in the middle of a game. On the other hand, life tap almost refills your life bulb almost instantly (you will have to use a potion every now and then though), but if you want to continue using potions, go for it. Good luck.

paladinking
18-08-2005, 20:09
Not everyone has the time nor space to hoard every small rejuv they come across and cube them into a large rejuv. Also, not everyone has the time to mule over rejuvs in the middle of a game. On the other hand, life tap almost refills your life bulb almost instantly (you will have to use a potion every now and then though), but if you want to continue using potions, go for it. Good luck.



rejuvies do come in handy when you somehow survive after making an attack with iron maiden on you and they also come in handy when yuor fighting about 20 undead soul killers with a pally and a meteorb in hell act 3 flayer dungeon but still your right life tap or leech does help but whenever you have room or time to pick up some rejuvies do so give them to all your characters or sell them if you have to much

paladinking
19-08-2005, 00:35
going on vacation tommorow leaving about 5:30- 6:00 til next friday

martinkingss
09-09-2005, 20:33
is it only that thinks of TUB when u here this guy?