Weapon for smiter...

[ironexecutioner]

What is a better choice? a 400//31 Grief or Astreon's (+4//85)?? Thanks for your help.

[Ce Olba]

What is a better choice? a 400//31 Grief or Astreon's (+4//85)?? Thanks for your help.

Grief. Grief gives way more dmg. Not even need to look at Astreon's, when u got grief.

[HeavAngel]

I agree with Ce Olba.
Why would think about using a Astreon's if you have a Grief>?
Unless, you don't have a grief.

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[sizgar]

wanna play more lame ?? use astreon (slows target)
wanna play more fair and get more dmg ? use grief

using astreaons gives possibility to slow ur target which is very popular in NL pubs. of coz they use life tap and amp as well (from time to time)

using grief vs astreons can be harder than u think but grief mostly is over astreons

btw keep in mind IAS required for ur grief u said 400/31 made in what ?

regs

[sir goatscelot]

wanna play more lame ?? use astreon (slows target)
wanna play more fair and get more dmg ? use grief

Have to slightly disagree here sorry..slow may be a bm pvp mod, but its a well known fact that grief is bugged with smite and should not work the way it does. So if you really want to play fair, then using grief is also out of the question ;) This is all of course assuming we are talking pvp, pvm is different.

[[exile]]

Ever since Grief came out, I've found the only possible argument in favor of an Astreon's is if you're a T/V with emphasis on FoH.

Otherwise Grief is far superior.

[Werx]

its a well known fact that grief is bugged with smite and should not work the way it does.

It's the damage +xxx mod on grief that has it work the way it does with smite.
Astreons also has this mod, as does the redeemer. They work the same, grief just works better.

I don't see how it's bugged.

[IstinkTherefourIAM]

wanna play more lame ?? use astreon (slows target)
wanna play more fair and get more dmg ? use grief

Have to slightly disagree here sorry..slow may be a bm pvp mod, but its a well known fact that grief is bugged with smite and should not work the way it does. So if you really want to play fair, then using grief is also out of the question ;) This is all of course assuming we are talking pvp, pvm is different.

i believe grief should work to ALL melee. since smite is melee.
and hopefully 1.12 would display the natural damage with grief and smite not just phantom grief damage.

if they disable grief on smite they should also disable it in zeal charge ww fury or any other melee attax.