who thinks poison necros are strong

[coldreaver]

my necro is completly maxed in poison the poison dagger does 19k in 14.4 seconds the poison explosian does 35k and poison nova does 5k in 2 seconds

plz reply and let me see ur reactions :D

[Blascid]

my necro is completly maxed in poison the poison dagger does 19k in 14.4 seconds the poison explosian does 35k and poison nova does 5k in 2 seconds

plz reply and let me see ur reactions :D

How do you kill Poison Immunes?

[Bandit]

my necro is completly maxed in poison the poison dagger does 19k in 14.4 seconds the poison explosian does 35k and poison nova does 5k in 2 seconds

plz reply and let me see ur reactions :D

is that with LR or without?

[Valinorean]

Heya,

They are very strong, with the right equipment. Especially in the Pit.

I have maxed Corpse Explosion with the Poison skills as well.. when enemies start falling from poison/other attacks, amplify the group and blast them back to hell with CE.

-Val

[NeutralTerritory]

Poison Necro is my prime character. Mine does 9.8k when i PVM with 7x gc, torch, and Anni.

Very good PVM character, and can also be good pvp, with the right gear and strategy.

[RetroStar]

Poison Necro are AMAZING at PvP when you encounter unexpected duelers. Though some BM ones just stack psn resist with antitode once they know you are a psn necro.

[ArgCmdr]

I used a PvM poison necro, instead of investing in max CE i went for a number of revives. Gotta tell i had pretty good results, could use him quite well for doing Pit runs. Basically reviving, lower resist, nova, and so on. Immunes arent really a problem, merc & minion co. can get of rid of them quite well -although maxing CE is another way-. IMO, the thing about poisonmancers in PvM is that theyre slow killers. (You cannot expect to do any kind of run as fast as youd possibly do with another class). Theyre still possibly my favourite build though.

[coldreaver]

How do you kill Poison Immunes?
u just gotta put i into the bone skills with ur remaining skill points after all poison skills are maxed

[Mad Mantis]

u just gotta put i into the bone skills with ur remaining skill points after all poison skills are maxed

Welcome Newcomer to The Darkness. Grab a brew :drink: and feel free to raise some corpses.

You could also just use CE and/or your Merc.

[coldreaver]

is that with LR or without?
I WOULD PUT SOME IN THE RESISTANCE CURSE

[bladesyz]

my necro is completly maxed in poison the poison dagger does 19k in 14.4 seconds the poison explosian does 35k and poison nova does 5k in 2 seconds

plz reply and let me see ur reactions :D

19k in 14.4 seconds is about 1300 dmg/second. With poison explosion, it's about 2300 dmg/second, but you need a corpse to start with.

It's not that impressive, imo. Sorcs can chuck 2k fireballs easily, and often faster than one shot per second. Hammers, blizzard, fury, etc can all dish out a ton of damage in a short time.

[HardyZ]

poison necros are impressive and fun with the right gear.
I got 3 words for ya: Poison resistance reduction! :D

[amphrosyne]

poison necros are impressive and fun with the right gear.
I got 3 words for ya: Poison resistance reduction! :D

Poison length reduction?

[DevilsWrath]

the best psn necro ive seen did 11k nova without bramble, he was godly. 3k life, 125% fcr, and he was owning a game full of every other kind of char u could think of. It's not a common build, but when done right it can sure dominate.

[Valinorean]

Hmm, and also 80k+ Poison Explosion, Devils? My Nova is slightly lower and Poison Expl. is near or a bit over than 80k(not sure).

Killing some tougher bosses with LR and PE is fun to watch, tough the radius of the spell demands good timing.. I think the dam/sec is pretty much the same than with Nova, but lasts about 10 times longer! :)

[amphrosyne]

the best psn necro ive seen did 11k nova without bramble, he was godly. 3k life, 125% fcr, and he was owning a game full of every other kind of char u could think of. It's not a common build, but when done right it can sure dominate.

that games full of noobs. nova sucks in pvp as its too slow and you would need to catch someone offguard to kill them. keeping distance to a poison nec is too easy and even if the nec gets close, the nova is too slow to effectively hit them.

[Kyo]

that games full of noobs. nova sucks in pvp as its too slow and you would need to catch someone offguard to kill them. keeping distance to a poison nec is too easy and even if the nec gets close, the nova is too slow to effectively hit them.

Noob, why is this word tossed around so easily?

It not that easy if he decrep you and while he gets gumby and his warrior to swarm you and then offload poison on you.

I play NC's Poison Hybrid and certainly rocks!

[Necrochild313]

For the poison naysayers:

Lets take a 10k nova (average nova with bramble), I hit 8k without bramble, I've seen some hit 10k without (though their resistances were crap, a bit more damage isn't worth that to me). After hitting the -res cap (which is absurdly easy with a venomancer, -75% in gear and -60% in skill (LR) is pretty much the norm. That makes it 20k over 2 seconds. 10k a second, ok, pretty nice. Now lets calculate the increase in poison length. The average of 75% -res in gear (which effect poison length reduction, by the way) will be taken into consideration, resulting in a 35k nova over 3.5 seconds. Try to find a better crowd clearer than that.

I got 3 words for ya: Poison resistance reduction

:p

In hell you have a -100% Poison Length Reduction penalty. Given the aforementioned average of -75% enemy poison resistance in gear for the properly twinked pure venomancer, You would need to wear 250% poison length reduction to achieve 75% poison length reduction.

[Pherdnut]

19k in 14.4 seconds is about 1300 dmg/second. With poison explosion, it's about 2300 dmg/second, but you need a corpse to start with.

It's not that impressive, imo. Sorcs can chuck 2k fireballs easily, and often faster than one shot per second. Hammers, blizzard, fury, etc can all dish out a ton of damage in a short time.

But they can't hit everything all at once, hide behind a wall of minions and then eliminate the rare poison immunes almost instantaneously with corpse explosions. Your F-Ball sorc might kill a small patch of minions faster (if they aren't fire immune which at least 33% are in Hell) but a poisonmancer can eliminate entire herds of cows in just a few seconds. My poisonmancer from last ladder could clear pits faster than any hammerdin, or sorc could, he could go anywhere, and never feared any immunity. At his disposal are poison, fire, physical, and the means to break and reduce resists for both the elements and physical damage.

I'll take a good sorc or hammerdin (or not, yuck - so boring), if I want to kill bosses fast but for all other tasks poisonmancers are superior. Their only real disadvantage is they are demanding on item slots, making it hard to MF well with them. You really only have boots, armor, helmet, and amulet free if you're using your alternate slots to prebuff minions. Bramble is very nice but not necessary for a strong poisonmancer.

[DevilsWrath]

I dont think amphrosyne knows what he's talking about. I'd really like to hear about some chars you've made. You seem to know a lot so please enlighten us to some of the "great" pvp chars you've made and let us rip them apart by talking about their flaws.