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monStar
07-08-2005, 01:11
Well how to start this...maybe the best way to do so is to tell that monday restart is happening and I was thinking to make Fury wolf as my start char.
I never did calculation about Fury frames and anything so i can't tell that my equip is fairly optimal last time I played it (Botd Archon Staff, CoH...)

I really dislike max block cause of huge loss of life but what you think what is better ?

And what equip for the beggining, and what in the end when getting richer on new ladder again...I was thinking to do solo uber trist later so what equip for it is fairly optimal ?

btw. I heard fury can go in PvP but it's somehow really unbelievable for me...cause he cannot catch good tele nor WW...so what does he do ?

p.s. if you have problems posting on my topic cause of some rules, please PM me with gosu material so I can read and decide it all in the end (before monday i hope). I wan't all info cause I never studied druid stats and ALL info could help me a lot...please don't use shortcut words so I dont need to ask you to answer me ... tnx a lot for replies

xpumafangx
07-08-2005, 06:00
A ebotd archon staff is a good enuff weapon to use as a werewolf. But plz take note of that one of the best addvantige of a 2 handed weapon is that you can get a really far range, range 5. Coh is better used as a p v m item or p v sorc/elemental user item. I would suggest getting eather a ebotd greater pole axe or a eth tomb reaver with 2 x 40/15 ias jewels and a zod. Also the eth tomb reaver has a 4 fps fury but has a range of 4. Where the ebotd greater pole axe has a range of 5 and a 5 fps fury.
Armors that you should take remaber are shaftstop, fort, and coh. I belive that those are some of the better items for a werewolf. But I have heard in the past from some of the best werewolf duelers that jewelers of the whale with 4x40/15 max jewels are better in damage then fort and life wise as well. Forget about def as a werewolf. The only way I could see a werewolf having a high def is if they used fort till the fost armor takes effect and gets a shout from a high level skilled barb, then switched to a 2k def armor. Helms I feel that a werewolf has 2 options jalals and curbus bite. Boots aulders and gore riders. Gloves steel rends, dracs, trang-ouls, and/or soul drainers. Rings and amulets I would say anglics all the way. Also know that if you need more attack ratting you could also you hursu boots and belt with a enchant from a demon limb. Belts verd, magic belts with of the whale mod on them, and some people like trang-ouls for the cannotbefrozen and plus to life. Some people think those are a mistake. I like rare belts with plus to str hit recovery and a large plus to life. Charms I would go with plus to shapeshifting skills, fine charms with plus to life, hitrecovery sc, and runwalk sc. Also anni and hellfire.

Stat wise I say 3 diffent builds titans, high vita, and high dex. Titan builds are a werewolf that added all theyre points to str. They do this for the damage also you can and will get more life as a werewolf from items that has a pure plus to life on them like for say a werewolf can change forms and get 60 life from a 20 life sc. So with that said you could use a jewelers of the whale with 4 p rubys in it and get all the life you need as a werewolf.

The high vita build is about getting as much life as you need. vita builds are very common on uswest with most classes. But just because its very common build doesn't all ways make it the best build out there.

The high dex build is just for block rate. Like the titan you don't worry about vit because you can use alot of items that give plus to pure life. Like for say those to items, just read what I typed about titans again.

I don't feel like talking about werewolf dueling tatics the best way to learn about that is to go out and duel. Try to be the first person to hit.


Any one out there feel that there is more to talk about item wise.

monStar
07-08-2005, 13:44
Now that's what I needed when called for help :D
You got some good points, but I dont think 1 str point is more valuable then 1 vita...but then you didn't cover shield wielding options, so I get that 2 handed is better ? well work's fine for me...

about duelling, there is no chance to catch a sorc lets say...just trying but trying is not good aint it....

btw. you didn't say a good weapon to start with and it's easy to find...when i found Ribcracker it really made a nice blow with fury...

skilledlord
07-08-2005, 14:02
Well, upped ribcracker is a very good weapon. I personally like going 1handed weapon, like a gris caddy socketed or a magical cruel from .09. However u seem more pvm so if u want to go 2 handed, go for it. make sure u have plenty of leech. fury can be good in pvp melee but very expensive, trust me. To be a good melee, the items go beyond the typical runewords.

Edit: You can try to duel the sorces, get on faster walk run/use feral rage/play smart/chase them like crazy. Your botd archon has a big range. It'll be hard but with luck, you can catch them. Good Luck.

monStar
07-08-2005, 14:35
Well, upped ribcracker is a very good weapon. I personally like going 1handed weapon, like a gris caddy socketed or a magical cruel from .09. However u seem more pvm so if u want to go 2 handed, go for it. make sure u have plenty of leech. fury can be good in pvp melee but very expensive, trust me. To be a good melee, the items go beyond the typical runewords.

Edit: You can try to duel the sorces, get on faster walk run/use feral rage/play smart/chase them like crazy. Your botd archon has a big range. It'll be hard but with luck, you can catch them. Good Luck.
Some tips...this is for new ladder season...no some 1.09 buggs...
Archon staff has range 2 believe it or not ;)

I don't know but 2 handed weapon's give me more life, more damage and they are more cool afcourse...
And no, i still dont believe fury can catch tele....

xpumafangx
08-08-2005, 14:46
Well if you really want to catch a sorc I would think runwalk/resists is the key.

armor: enigma breats plate/coh
weapons: harmony demon crossbow I know it is a strange weapon and no I havint used one yet. But your talking -60 speed bow low damage with level 10 vigor. I havent seen a need for a really high damage weapon when fighting a sorc yet. You could use rabies to do this but I don't know. I'll just throw the ideal out there and let others say what they feel.

When I have fought sorcs I wait till they stop and shoot to run in and attack. I havent done really well vers cold using sorcs. But fire sorcs I can kill. Like when they use meotor on the ground at they're feet. They think theyre safe but not really. Or when they lock on you with fireball.

For a really low level weapon I use steel great axe I could use it till act 1 nightmare. But ribcracker is better when you get to that level.

I do know how to kill any sorc with a paladin and what I mean by paladin I mean avanger.

Kiba
08-08-2005, 19:45
Your gonna need some type of 1hand wep and an ss at least if your gonna vs melee, other werewolfs,zealers etc... go 1 hand and sheild vs pvp melee and fast 1-2hand weps vs casters

when i vs melee i use fortitude and either griz or ebotd z with ss

Vs casters i go nigma and ebotd GThresher for the 2 hit kill(usaully2-4 hit) vs hammer dins.

vs sorcs i use griz caddy because its fast enough too not let them tele away and cast an ele spell on you like Fb.

If im lucky i can catch em off gaurd with a quick tele ,WW,Fury it surprises the heck outa them when you do it for first time :lol:

xpumafangx
09-08-2005, 14:15
ebotd greater pole axe has more damage and less stats needed then ebotd gaint theasher.

greater pole axe avarge 86.5 str needed 179 dex 99
VS
gaint theasher avarge 77 str needed 188 dex 140

Gaint Theasher has a -10 speed vs Greater Pole Axes 0 but they bolth get a 5 fps fury. Other wise I would have said Gaint Theasher.

Also 2 handed vs 1 handed on melee isn't all ways true. Like for say vs a smiter you really want a big range 5 2 handed weapon you will kill in 2 hits. :lol:

Also ya I like griz caddy as well it can do a ton of damage with a 4 fps fury but. The real big dog of 1 handed melee damage weapons is grief. You can get a range 3 with a ebotd berserker axe at 5 fps but you wont, get the 340-400 min damage from greif. Or for say a 371-431 min/max 375-435 damage from a greif phase which also get a 5fps fury. I also would have done a greif berserker axe if I was under the inpression that it had a 5fps fury.

I am not saying a gaint theasher, berserker axes are not bad weapons as ebotd at all. Infact we all know ebotd berserk axes are one of the top line weapons. Just that they are not the best thats all.

I too feel that having a 1 handed and a 2 handed is great to have but if I had to pick from the 2 I would would go 2 handed.