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XtasyGrizzly
05-08-2005, 05:20
So what will y'all play at the begining ?

me my self thinking of a bowzon or a traper maybe :thumbsup:

Valar-Wrath
05-08-2005, 05:24
Blizz sork to do meph/andy/baal runs.

Rekoc
05-08-2005, 05:36
I R B A Trapper.

madman68
05-08-2005, 05:49
Light Trapper or Tesladin

meekzero
05-08-2005, 05:50
I R B A Trapper.
oh, cool mang~

Feronz
05-08-2005, 06:13
When is the reset?

Valar-Wrath
05-08-2005, 06:17
When is the reset?

Monday.

10 characters.

NightShade
05-08-2005, 06:18
Frenzy barb..Hope they boost melee this time around...

Perceval
05-08-2005, 06:20
I think i'm going either Sorc (Fire or Cold), or Trapper.
As for sorc i'm thinking of a good build for running meph, pindle, etc ... Mostly in nightmare first :P of course.
Orb / Tk / Shield or Blizz or Good old FireWall or meteor? So many options, got till monday to think about it.
But if i'm going trapper, it's going to be Full lightning trapper With 20 points il the fireblast (first skill, don't know the english name for it so just translated).

Well we will see :), now that i think of it i might do a Zerker Barb, although they are more of gear dependent :/.

LuckyDwarf
05-08-2005, 06:30
Orb or Blizz sorc to get nice and geared off of hell andy/meph very quickly, then I'll probably start up a hammerdin. :)

Lucky

stevethatsmyname
05-08-2005, 07:06
Frenzy barb..Hope they boost melee this time around...
wishful thinking =P



building a trapper meself

they just plain rip **** apart.

Dahkar
05-08-2005, 07:54
I don't know if I want to ladder run or not. GAH why couldn't they of reset with patch.

Tai.
05-08-2005, 08:21
i r making a hammerdin to carry my team to victory.

Tai FTW

cheers

IstinkTherefourIAM
05-08-2005, 08:24
Oh great another V/T that kills all types of chars including elite.

ill name it hmm?....thinking of a good REALNAME not xxxsmitexx or BlizzUPwn ill name it AdamSandler.

skytouch
05-08-2005, 08:34
anyone got any links to a thread or suggestions for an optimal build for HC Trapsin?

20 FB, or pure light?

Tai.
05-08-2005, 08:37
depends on preferences, i had a tendency to solo, so i put 20 into fb so i could deal with light immunes, with good attack rate, you can deal a good amount of fire dmg fast, if youre planning to be part of a group though, id go straight lightning with more poinjts in either fade or shadow.

cheers
-tai

Cleglaw_Himself
05-08-2005, 08:51
Trapsin for sure. Pure lightning = pure pwnage. Merc or lower resist wand will take care of anything else.

Then once I find enough spirit runes, a hammerdin.

Then some duelers... :clap:

CookiesnCream
05-08-2005, 09:00
Trapsin for sure. Pure lightning = pure pwnage. Merc or lower resist wand will take care of anything else.

Then once I find enough spirit runes, a hammerdin.

Then some duelers... :clap:

I was thinking of making either a javazon or sorc, but now that you mention it, I guess I'll try out a trapsin. :)

Shenz
05-08-2005, 09:00
i wanna make a bear druid, he was my first ever hc char and he made it to level 67 before he died. He was pro.

Dahkar
05-08-2005, 09:04
Doesn't the term "pro" mean professional, which is defined as: having a particular profession as a permanent career. So unless you made money off your 67 druid how was he pro? :P

Edit: Sorry it's fun giving the new guys hard times. :)

Christor
05-08-2005, 09:07
I think I'm gonna make a DTail kicker, just to try something a little different.

PawnOfChaos
05-08-2005, 13:28
Egads!!!

I'm split ><

I'm either doing a blizz sorc then hammerdin (my initial plan) or trapper then hammerdin.

My lil bro plays with me and he is making a orb/tk/block sorc, so I suppose she can do the boss runs, in which case my trapper could be good for cowing and general mfing for runes and whatnot...

Decisions, decisions...

deadparrot
05-08-2005, 13:43
I'll probably go with a CS/LF Javazon with Jab and Merc to take care of LIs. I know, I know...it's a cookie cutter and other styles level or magic find better. But I seem to be able to get these folks to live, so I'm sticking with what I know. :D

Good luck to y'all in the up coming ladder reset!

dp

rev129
05-08-2005, 14:37
Trapper for me as well....I knotice that the majority here in HC are going with a Trapper first, over in the SC forums, hardly anyone is going Trapper first.

Still-Xey-Lover
05-08-2005, 15:49
Well it basically comes down to:do you want to do eld/shenk/pindle/cows or do meph/andy and then make a char that can do a little of both. So then its either javazon, trapper, wind druid maybe, etc. or sorc.

PhatTrumpet
05-08-2005, 16:06
Very nice 'tar, rev129. :D

I need some advice from you guys. I would most like to make an Orb Sorc first, but to those who have done so before: how do you get to lvl 30? When everyone's untwinked, doesn't it take an Orb build like twice as long just to get to lvl 30 than everyone else?

I've never been around for a ladder reset, but when I started up a while after the resets both times I had the most luck with Blizzard Sorcs just because they can start killing at lvl 6 rather than lvl 30 (I don't even like Blizzard that much). I've self-leveled more than my share of Orb Sorcs, but it's always been with accumulated starter gear and around people who were already somewhat established in the ladder season.

Just want to get some testimonials I suppose. Thanks.

Ankeli
05-08-2005, 16:41
all vita no block blizz sorc all the way baby :)

HelzCaretaker
05-08-2005, 16:45
must be different can't make sorc or trapper... HMMMM, probably will do the build I was making until I got bored and stopped, phoenix strike assassin with cb kick on the back up (hopefully I get the skills for it).

Or maybe start with fury druid, I just love fury druids, hmmm maybe an avenger or tesladin or psn nec (I just love psn necs) or hmmm....


Well I have no clue hurray for dial-up making my decisions hard!

Aerath
05-08-2005, 16:55
Not.

New patch means I can't play without the CDs, and lent them to a friend of mine.

Not that I care to get 'em back. I'm sticking to WoW.

AAJimmy
05-08-2005, 16:56
I have changed my mind from a hammerdin to a trapper. I have discovered they are insanely fast in normal. Now I havent played this guy past lvl 20 but what skills do you use?

I was thinking on:
20 Shock web
20 Charged bolt
20 Lightening sentry
20 Death sentry
And the rest in Fade.

Am I missing something since I am VERY inexperienced with trappers. Is it eg worth putting points in weapon block? I was thinking I am just running around anyways.

Raith
05-08-2005, 17:07
zonnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
zon.

soj ft nr nt
05-08-2005, 17:17
Very nice 'tar, rev129. :D

I need some advice from you guys. I would most like to make an Orb Sorc first, but to those who have done so before: how do you get to lvl 30? When everyone's untwinked, doesn't it take an Orb build like twice as long just to get to lvl 30 than everyone else?

I've never been around for a ladder reset, but when I started up a while after the resets both times I had the most luck with Blizzard Sorcs just because they can start killing at lvl 6 rather than lvl 30 (I don't even like Blizzard that much). I've self-leveled more than my share of Orb Sorcs, but it's always been with accumulated starter gear and around people who were already somewhat established in the ladder season.

Just want to get some testimonials I suppose. Thanks.

I didn't have too much trouble. I still shot/smacked at anything I could with my party, and leveled along with them until I could finally really start killing with orb. If you are playing with a good party, you really don't need to have as much killing power as you do playing in public games.

Afro AmeriZON
05-08-2005, 18:50
Doesn't the term "pro" mean professional, which is defined as: having a particular profession as a permanent career. So unless you made money off your 67 druid how was he pro? :P

Edit: Sorry it's fun giving the new guys hard times. :)
Post reported.

owned!

j/k :D

Valar-Wrath
05-08-2005, 18:54
I need some advice from you guys. I would most like to make an Orb Sorc first, but to those who have done so before: how do you get to lvl 30? When everyone's untwinked, doesn't it take an Orb build like twice as long just to get to lvl 30 than everyone else?

I've never been around for a ladder reset, but when I started up a while after the resets both times I had the most luck with Blizzard Sorcs just because they can start killing at lvl 6 rather than lvl 30 (I don't even like Blizzard that much). I've self-leveled more than my share of Orb Sorcs, but it's always been with accumulated starter gear and around people who were already somewhat established in the ladder season.

Just want to get some testimonials I suppose. Thanks.

A good party is key. I suggest you jump in one of the teams floating around these forums if you can. If not, grab a 3 o/s bow, stick the highest sapphire, and two topaz you have, in it. Keep your merk at your level. Make sure he has the best weapon possible, preferably three sockets. Frost Nova will probably be your best spell to use. Nova 'em and let your merk do the work.

If you're still stuck, run countess over and over. Rhyme, lore, stealth are all under level 28 and extremely useful. Hell, you could even shop a nice 2 o/s staff and make a leaf and see if that helps out any.

buggingbad
05-08-2005, 19:25
=( Don't expect that keys will really have any value after reset, same with the body parts. No demand until theres enough 90s, and by then there will be tons floating about.

As for the class I'll play... thinking Blizzard Sorc... I just hate not having teleport. :/ Though I was actually contemplating a bow-zon or an army necro :D Necros seem to be decent, army ones start off well and can solo well... d'no.

happyfamine
05-08-2005, 19:52
cleric. clerics get so much love at ladder resets in the pubbies. last reset i did a cleric and saved so many lives, especially melee chars. melee chars get a lot of the good drops untwinked because the sorcs have to hang back. a couple of barbs whose lives i kept saving were grabbing all the good caster stuff and handing it off to me. was given a suicide branch and two rare rings with fcr on the first day. once you get to hell pindle a cleric can mf as well as a trapper.

for orbsorcs in pubbies - grab a staff with enchant on it. tell them you're an enchanter, if they complain the chant is weak tell them it's because you don't have fire mastery yet. they'll carry you to 30 willingly.

TheGreatFIG
05-08-2005, 20:46
cleric. clerics get so much love at ladder resets in the pubbies. last reset i did a cleric and saved so many lives, especially melee chars. melee chars get a lot of the good drops untwinked because the sorcs have to hang back. a couple of barbs whose lives i kept saving were grabbing all the good caster stuff and handing it off to me. was given a suicide branch and two rare rings with fcr on the first day. once you get to hell pindle a cleric can mf as well as a trapper.

for orbsorcs in pubbies - grab a staff with enchant on it. tell them you're an enchanter, if they complain the chant is weak tell them it's because you don't have fire mastery yet. they'll carry you to 30 willingly.

Haha nice, never thought of that [enchant stuff] :) Cleric sounds interesting, I'll have to look into it.

TheGreatFIG
05-08-2005, 21:30
Haha nice, never thought of that [enchant stuff] :) Cleric sounds interesting, I'll have to look into it.

Wow definately going with Cleric, ssounds like a ton of fun and is a big change!

nightaswz
05-08-2005, 22:58
Poison/SUmmon nec for me! I was told they are darn good at clearing Pits, which is not dangerous and also drops so many goodies. How about it? =)

OkHello
05-08-2005, 23:38
Rabies druid.

meekzero
05-08-2005, 23:49
frost pally :)

Baranor
05-08-2005, 23:50
none. this was my cue. goodnight.

Kanapullo
06-08-2005, 01:29
got it narrowed down to meteor/orb or Hammerdin :scratch:

PunkPenguin
06-08-2005, 03:41
I was thinking of ether doing a hammeradin or summon/poison nec, hammeradin probably cuz they are good tanks and u can make a spirt shield and weapon very easily, so props to good cheap runewords :D.

acheronlord
06-08-2005, 04:30
Well, my first is going to be a Summon Necro.

Tips for other players as for the first characters:

Hammerdin
Summon Necro
Trapper
Javazon
Wind Druid

...You know, something that won't die soon..because you will be way behind everyone else, and most importantly, without items or a backup high level character.

Best thing to do is get a character level 60-75, one that doesn't die easy, then build up a Barb, MF Sorc, Chanter, Bowazon, etc.

Rekoc
06-08-2005, 04:35
I find that the most successful build is the one you like the most. Why be summoner if you suck at them? If you are good with sorks. Be a sork. The most efficent character for ladder reset is the one you will have fun with. You will not do a good job with lets say trapper if you do not like playing them.

meekzero
06-08-2005, 05:12
I find that the most successful build is the one you like the most. Why be summoner if you suck at them? If you are good with sorks. Be a sork. The most efficent character for ladder reset is the one you will have fun with. You will not do a good job with lets say trapper if you do not like playing them.
well said, and true.

Baranor
06-08-2005, 08:37
since i have like 5 hours a week to play, im tempted to go classic. less competition there, so theres more time to crawl onto the ladder. if i do classic there's a couple of choices I gotta make...

zerker
or
shocker
or
FoH
or
hammer
or magezon

bipolar
06-08-2005, 09:24
I have changed my mind from a hammerdin to a trapper. I have discovered they are insanely fast in normal. Now I havent played this guy past lvl 20 but what skills do you use?

I was thinking on:
20 Shock web
20 Charged bolt
20 Lightening sentry
20 Death sentry
And the rest in Fade.

Am I missing something since I am VERY inexperienced with trappers. Is it eg worth putting points in weapon block? I was thinking I am just running around anyways.

Just my opinion, but as I like to solo quite a bit, I max fire blast. It has most of the same synergies as LS and gets rather powerful when fully synergized. This gives you 3 types of damage (light, fire, physical), allowing you to solo anywhere in hell. Killing is only slightly slower vs. non-light immunes (as death sentry in 1 player games is ridiculously effective) and obviously faster vs. light immunes. I would not max fade at all -- about 4 points is what I put in it, relying on +skills for the rest. 7+ points in shadow master and 1 in mind blast rounds it out and gives you (imo) the best combination of safety + killing speed + versatility of any character.

Just be sure to get 20% ias gloves and either nat's set (for the damage reduction and resists, socket armor with topazes or fervor jewels) or a 3 os claw with shaels in it so you can spam fire blasts like a monkey on crack.

Tarantella
06-08-2005, 09:36
Playing HC for over three years has taught me not to put all my energies into one character so at the start I shall make a barb, a sorc,a necro and an amazon concurrently.The thought of making a druid,pala or assassin still makes me wince. :D

battledroid
06-08-2005, 10:24
would a hammerdin work fairly good after the reset with

spirit shield + sword , rhyme armor, lore helm, rest fast cast and resist items(rings+boots+belt).
would be cheap and pretty powerfull, almost all the runes are low and easy to find

AAJimmy
06-08-2005, 10:38
a hammerdin works with no gear. I have played two hammerdins into hell and one soloed ancient/baal with no gear, the other died in act3 with pretty good gear.

Ankeli
06-08-2005, 16:05
Singer baba :lol:

edit: the thing I like about all vita blizz sorc is that I can keep her through the season unchanged. Put, say, 80 points into str. Or maybe 90. Rest into vita. Now you can put on practically anything on her with slight gear changes and keep her moving until the very end of either hers, or the ladder season.
Start out with a rare orb picked off normal mephisto and end up with ocu and 3 piece of tals later on. etc. etc. Very flexible.

Hobbesmsu
06-08-2005, 20:51
I'll probably do a resistance/holy fire paly to get to act3 as quickly and safely as possible then buy the biggest damage two handed ax or maul I can find and make a charger. I should be ready to hunt in a few hours. I shouldn't live long but with the havok of a restart I hope to carve a few ears.

NightShade
06-08-2005, 21:10
Geddon druid ftw?

I thought : Frenzy barb. Then I remembered that I'd have very, very little killing power for either people or monsters

I thought : Kicker sin!...Then I realized that they aren't the greatest mf chars, but don't rely on weponry.


I am having the most horrible time picking a character. I like barbs, but they are horribly in-efficient. I hate all casters, but they are good when you have no gear....


Thusly I think I'm going for a H.Shocker. Spirit stuff is easy to attain, Lots of dmg, I can still run around and PK with it...etc.

Dahkar
06-08-2005, 21:27
Make a TS/Dtail sin, they are secks.

meekzero
06-08-2005, 21:36
spear action yo~

Valar-Wrath
07-08-2005, 02:28
and end up with ocu and 3 piece of tals later on.

Tals, yes. Occulus, hell no!

Wizzy ftw.

Tai.
07-08-2005, 05:40
I can only assume he's talking about an MF switch, as I give him enough credit not to be seen with an Occulus as a main weapon :)

Seriously though, I hate the chance to cast tele on it, but I've seen people who went 35 FCR Spirit Shield/Occy/Viper/FCR Ring to hit 105 and were able to steadily teleport through pretty much anything so the random teleports it set off were a minimal danger.

Cheers
-Tai

Dahkar
07-08-2005, 05:59
Occulus can own and save your life. It teleports you where you mouse is.

Narcizm
07-08-2005, 07:09
Blizzard Sorceress, like every other ladder reset. Just give me 75 resist and I'll be fine.

Tai.
07-08-2005, 08:26
Occulus can own and save your life. It teleports you where you mouse is.

Did not know that, but if it's the case than a 105 fcr sorc with Occy would be very solid indeed.

Cheers
-Tai