Is BvC all that it's cracked up to be?

[carrothers]

So pending the whole "non-sorceresses can't use teleport from Enigma" thing not coming true, I'd like to make a BvC barb for dueling action.

My question is, are they really all that and a bag of chips/jerky/salmon? I tried dueling with a hammerdin, and pretty much that was t3h suck. Not fun at all. I imagine playing with a Bowazon wouldn't be that fun either. Tried Bonemancer, and that was ok, but still not what I was looking for. So, here I am, going to try to build a BvC barb.

What's considered to be the best guide for building one? I've got a rough idea of how I want him to come out.

So the main question(s) of the post I guess is: Does BvC pwn as hard as I hear? What gives BvC the most trouble? The least? Any other tips/help would be awesome, as I look forward to building my second ever barbarian (had a warcry barb that was pretty fun PvM). :lol:

[RetroStar]

BvC truly destorys most chars out there.

Biggest enemy is a BvB.

[oneBlast]

check these links:

rough skills overview (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=354764)

some tactics (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=364388) on video

Hope that helps

[Herald of Doom]

Biggest enemies:

1) BvB barb (duh), just run from these guys and let them cry all they want ;)
2) Good necro's. Can't make a lot of mistakes vs a 6k pure magical attack
3) Good Hammerdins. Same as necro's, but this time 15k magical dmg combined with high defense :uhhuh:

Easy kills:

sorcies, ele druids, anything melee that isnt a ww barb (yes, ww sins lose too), foh'ers, average hammerdins and bone necros. Good necros and hammerdins can be done, but it's gonna be really hard unless you either have topnotch gear or are very experienced.

HoD

[richo]

Biggest enemies:

1) BvB barb (duh), just run from these guys and let them cry all they want ;)
2) Good necro's. Can't make a lot of mistakes vs a 6k pure magical attack
3) Good Hammerdins. Same as necro's, but this time 15k magical dmg combined with high defense :uhhuh:

Easy kills:

sorcies, ele druids, anything melee that isnt a ww barb (yes, ww sins lose too), foh'ers, average hammerdins and bone necros. Good necros and hammerdins can be done, but it's gonna be really hard unless you either have topnotch gear or are very experienced.

HoD

BVB rules :drools: i just lub my baba (still working on the charms, will be about 23K def and around 20-21K ar, and about a 8-9k pure phys ww (no poison or other ele)

bvc has not super AR to confront a 15k+ Def char (bvb baba, and smiter with exile), bvc is more namelock tele ww (perhaps leap) and against a bvb or smiter this is pretty useles, and necro just owns each baba (except oure beloved singers~~)

Rgzzz
RICHO

[luis19]

a bvc barb has plenty of AR to hit anyone. only a bvb barb will beat a no block barb everytime unless the bvb is horrible.

the hardest classes to duel are necs and hammers, but i rarely lose to either and im pretty sure the west babas are alot better than me, well maybe not vs hammer.

to duel hammerdins u just have to be patient and learn how to counter desyn.

necs arent that hard, just if you do a long ww at the wrong times you're dead pretty fast. if you keep you're ww's short, along with good lag, i'd say the duel is in favor of the barb.

[calibansfury]

BVB rules :drools: i just lub my baba (still working on the charms, will be about 23K def and around 20-21K ar, and about a 8-9k pure phys ww (no poison or other ele)

bvc has not super AR to confront a 15k+ Def char (bvb baba, and smiter with exile), bvc is more namelock tele ww (perhaps leap) and against a bvb or smiter this is pretty useles, and necro just owns each baba (except oure beloved singers~~)

Rgzzz
RICHO


BvB doesn't rule. It just does very well against the most versatile build in the game due to its high degree of specialization. When so many BvB's have to hang out in town waiting for that BvC to slow down so they can attack them (after being told the BvC has no interest in dueling them, unless they take off the sheild), is proof. They don't do so hot vs casters. Their specialization is killing babas, and when one ww barb can block 75% of the other barbs attacks--guess who wins?

Any BvB who hostiles a BvC is a noob who has no idea what he's doing. He's like a kid with a gun, with too much power and not enough knowlege of barbs. Lucky for them grief can't go off accidentally...

calibansfury
uswest ladder

[richo]

well i only made my bvb for other baba and mostly he is just for fun (And wase of funds thats best part :p ), and words like noob is not much apreciated here on this forum, and i duel bvc, bvb just for fun most know that as i mostly not enter the games like : duel me noob or somthing that looks like that (mostly join baba vs baba), wich makes the dueling alot nicer, and for the bvc who refuses dueling my baba i get my summoner :p

but i dont get the last 2 lines of you could explain more~~

luis19: bvc baba is most alround char there is if right build they can kill almost everything (max resist, sometimes max dmg% reduce, huge life, and very good attack) these are just the ultimate killers atm but in private/league duel games they mostly sux due they may not tele wich makes a bvb build more suitable then imo~~

1) BvB barb (duh), just run from these guys and let them cry all they want
2) Good necro's. Can't make a lot of mistakes vs a 6k pure magical attack
3) Good Hammerdins. Same as necro's, but this time 15k magical dmg combined with high defense

my baba cries alot but is better in singing ;)

Rgzzzz
RICHO