View Full Version : Dear Druids - Patch 1.11 is quickly approaching
mepersoner
30-07-2005, 00:24
What changes would you like to see made? Especially to our dear class?
Trisk3lion
30-07-2005, 00:28
Of Caurse fix the irritating Artic blast/Inferno bug and i would also like to se upped damage to the fire skills. Then i hope they do something with the vines!
Wow, nice to see you're still around mep.
My vote goes for the return of leech in pvp.
Deathsrevenge
30-07-2005, 00:35
If lifeleech comes back...
Deathsreveng will come back..
Another patch? Is it not time for someone to shoot this beast and put it out of its misery?
aznbboi16
30-07-2005, 00:46
Another patch? Is it not time for someone to shoot this beast and put it out of its misery?
That's what I think they are doing. They will probably just make this game unbearably bad so everyone quits and buys WoW.
In the meantime, uninterruptible fury would be nice.
mepersoner
30-07-2005, 01:20
I'm hoping they ban teleport. :cool:
No, but realistically. The return of leech (mostly in melee) would be the first and most obvious thing. Uninterruptable fury would be nice, but I would love to see some synergies for the shifters.
A couple of ideas:
Werewolf adding attack rating to werebear.
Werebear adding defense to werewolf.
Feral rage adding frw to Werewolf
Feral rage adding leech to maul.
Maul adding damage to feral rage.
Fireclaws adding fire damage to maul and fury.
Rabies adding poison damage to feral rage and fury.
Spirit wolves adding attack rating and defense to werewolf.
Dire wolves adding more life to lycanthropy.
Grizzly adding damage to werebear.
And/Or the ability to cast while shifted.
Not necessarily all these things (but even if, it's not like we have enough skill points to go around for all these things), but it's apparent with everyone teleporting all over the place, the nature of the shifted druid's skills has put him at a severe disadvantage. Don't say this stuff would make us overpowered, because really, it would just even the playing field since all the other classes are already so overpowered.
A few new unique or set or runeword items for shifted druids to attack with would be nice too. Maybe an armor of some type that adds to WIAS somehow.
Dare to dream.
Will any of this happen? Probably not, druids will probably be hardly touched because elemental druids are the r0x0r.
As for the fire skills doing more damage, some maybe, but they would also be a lot better if the casting delay were gotten rid of (especially for say, firestorm and molten boulder, that should be our spammable slow moving tornado dammit).
Edit: In all honesty, since we can't teleport while shifted, some way to add to our base frw should be implemented, and it would really make a lot of sense from the werewolf perspective. How we could mix that with bear I haven't decided yet. Maybe all shifted abilities made available regardless of form, and the ability to go straight from one form to the other without the casting delay and the deshifting into human form.
Garbad_the_Weak
30-07-2005, 02:32
So, anyone wanna give odds if the patch will actually be released in Aug?
Garbad
let wolves and bears teleport in wereform. they would definetely become one of the most feared pvpers.
supernerd101
30-07-2005, 03:16
Getting things back to the basics
-No more teleport on enigmas! or items granting druid abilites .If thhey want a druid make one them selves.
-Leech in pvp
-Let fury have synergies ,even if it may be a small one
-Sages should get more life, they die to fast
-make arctic blast stronger,less mana
we need more melle druids then wind druids right now, BAND TOGETHER MY FURY BROTHERS!
batuchka
30-07-2005, 06:30
I like the idea of spirits being less fragile :D Even better i hope when a druid summons a spirit it works like a paladin's aura or a barb's BO/BC/Shout and this will keep druid players worrying about silly spirits who think they are PI in hell and drifting into melee range or in PvP for that matter! Also i would like to see craft recipes for druid pelts and all class specific items for that matter - was kindda dissapointed that Blizz didn't do so this patch :( I think WB being a higher lvl skill than WW ought to be given ias and AR as well while the speedier wolf should be granted a %critical strike/lvl. Maybe a longshot but why just limit one grizzly, 3 dire wolves, etc at any one time? If one invested 80 points into summon tree then a pure summoning build of spirit, spirit wolves, dire wolves and grizzly should be made possible hehe
I think all druids should automatically die when they leave town. Thank you.
gtfo
anyway more realistically its conan be like necro mancers get an ak-47 w/ homing missiles instant damage and instagib
i would like to see casting in wereform/ wereform synrgies
newerest
30-07-2005, 07:44
I think all druids should automatically die when they leave town. Thank you.
So, you want to make a fire claw druid? :lol:
let wolves and bears teleport in wereform. they would definetely become one of the most feared pvpers.
So, you want bear windys? = O
Ash Housewares
30-07-2005, 07:49
I think all druids should automatically die when they leave town. Thank you.
pfft, then they'd just have another excuse to hide and let the grizzly do all the work
mepersoner
30-07-2005, 10:31
let wolves and bears teleport in wereform. they would definetely become one of the most feared pvpers.
Not really, because as a melee druid you probably won't have much FCR and it's a lot harder to load up than if you're a barb. Also, even if you manage to get some FCR on there somewhere your first attack will take an additional 4-9 frames (fast bear to slow wolf) before you hit, unlike barbs which can go directly into a WW. It would help, but it definitely wouldn't make shifted druids something to automatically be feared.
mepersoner
30-07-2005, 10:38
So, anyone wanna give odds if the patch will actually be released in Aug?
Garbad
10:1
I'm giving Blizzard some props because the WoW release while not great, wasn't as catastrophic as I thought it would be.
10:1
I'm giving Blizzard some props because the WoW release while not great, wasn't as catastrophic as I thought it would be.
id say the chances are greater than that. Im an optimist! :flip:
xpumafangx
30-07-2005, 12:19
I say make a runeworded druid helm with eather +100 life on striking, level 10 iron skin, or bolth. With like +2 to all skills and +2 to druid skills. That would fix alot of problems. Make it jah, um, and sheal. Oo ya 200% ed and repairs self. Ya that would do it. Oo maybe like somthing like 30%-50% more damage. Well I could all ways dream about it.
Ash Housewares
30-07-2005, 12:30
a new runeword that can hit 4 frames would be nice
mepersoner
30-07-2005, 12:42
Only if it's somehow possible to get high level runes, because I'm going ladder all the way.
xpumafangx
30-07-2005, 13:02
I am doing ok by doing hell and nightmare forge over and over again. It also takes time to get the items needed just right. Yes I do remake my chareter over and over again but. It has given me the chance to expment with alot of diffent werewolf builds. Like for say I have built a werewolf that uses hurriecane/cyclone armor. It was able to get me a extra around 10 seconds of dueling time when faceing elemental damage users. Hunger/fury werewolf didn't like it very much. Also I am now working on my 3rd rabies/fury werewolf. This one isn't going to use carrion wind. Instead I have maxed out poisoncreeper first. Its in its sixtys in nm. I honesty use alot of cheap easy to get items. So I can invest in items I really really wanted.
mepersoner
30-07-2005, 13:05
Poison Creeper is actually a pretty nifty little summon.
xpumafangx
30-07-2005, 13:07
Ya if I could just get it high enuff level I might beable to get some real damage out of it.
carrothers
30-07-2005, 13:18
My wish is that Hurricane casts lasted longer. It's not that bad to recast, but I always forget doing it.
Thank (insert respective diety here) for Twister. I love that skill. Stun = t3h pwn.
jordy666
30-07-2005, 13:47
make maul ITD and uninteruptable
:winner:
-jordy :king:
electricblue
30-07-2005, 14:39
is 1.11 really coming out?
good to see people of old times, though.
I should rewrite the hybrid wolf guide, and complete the loooong promised summoner guide if there is a 1.11.
or, just let someone else do it :)
anyway,
melee mfing would be nice. something with chance to cast static on attack & mf & cb would do. this should not be a weapon, by the way. something that can be used any class except the paladin (they have slash & astreon).
slight increase in fury damage, and more then slight increase in overall AR would be nice. quite similar to mepersoners ideas, but full synergizing would not be possible for any skill to prevent owerpowered builds.
poison creeper is wonders, and i hope thats not a bug and stays there. for more info:
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=224438
a high speed & damage r5 & r3 weapon is a must if grief is to stay.
multi immunities for spirits. they are spirits, you know...
summon tree should be worked out. i m not saying lets create a telesummmoner necro with 30 monsters here, but something with comparable power with less number of monsters. summoning of multiple types of main tree should be enabled or summonable numbers of each pet should be increased. some should have itd & unblockable attacks. attack speed should be about 7 or 6 frames.
and goes on and on...
eb you work too hard, chillax in teh OT with us
mepersoner
30-07-2005, 22:52
They should give the grizzly smite back.
'22'Souljah
30-07-2005, 23:04
Mr Fuzzy Brown Teddy Bear kills everyone and he is godly. Then everyone dies, cries, and complains again while I laugh. I follow Mr Teddy around because I like bears.
They should give the grizzly smite back.
Amen. And make it overpowered aswell. That would make me happy. :)
mepersoner
30-07-2005, 23:25
Strid... you've been down there in the pit for way too long, come play with the druids for awhile. :)
inkanddagger
30-07-2005, 23:35
if life leech returned to PvP:
Feral rage should give a dmg and life leech bonus to fury.
werebear should give % def to wolf, and wolf should give % ar to maul
spirits should be ethereal.
fury becomes uninterruptable.
mepersoner - if you start playing again, either you come east or i go west.
and i for one think you come east, because east is where the fury druid community is. i want a piece of you.
mepersoner
30-07-2005, 23:37
Depends on if it comes out soon, and if my computer freezes up randomly while playing it or not.
Ink if you go west, I get your accounts and get one step closer to owning the accounts of all dpk :-P
Kyle, east has a semi huge community still. If you come back, try out east. Anyway enough propaganda.
GIB GRIZZLY SMITE!!
mepersoner
31-07-2005, 00:34
If it happens, I'll be playing ladder.
inkanddagger
31-07-2005, 00:34
if I gave you my accounts, I would expect you to become the instant #1 druid ever. because my accts be so godly - i can even cast artic blast in w00lf form
http://myspace-610.vo.llnwd.net/00173/01/69/173299610_l.jpg
h4x
I hope they dont make wolves to much stronger in .11 ... i like them being the underdog. Besides that my list is
-SoB's ... come on our highest lvl sage ... lets make it more useful
-Dont add more damage to fire druids ... but take the fcr timer off.
-smite on grizzy would be something else ...
- ll in pvp would own.
-werebear ... just give us more defence boast. If a wb could get the defence of a barb/pally they would do very well.
-artic blast fixed obviously
-ability to cast in were form (cyclone armor)
-hunger ... help that out some ... make it start at -75% damage then as you get higher lvl the - % down like whirlwind
Oh I would also like mrre gear to give faster block rate. Like maybe gloves have fbr or boots with fbr.
LifePincher
31-07-2005, 05:13
Well since I finally got my +3Summoning/+3Grizzly pelt boosting my Grizzly from lvl 49 to the max in 1.10 lvl 50, I'd like to see them give Grizzly more Damage and/or more added items that increase the skill level of my Grizzly **LOL**
I thank 99white99 for finding it for me. He gave it to me free btw :thumbsup:
Here's a pic of the helm:
http://member.atlantic.net/~inet7911/3Summon%203Grizzly%20helm.jpg
Garbad_the_Weak
31-07-2005, 05:29
Mine is sexier :D
Mine was etheral +3/3 with 2 sockets. Zod Cham.
Garbad
I'm envious.
Mines a 3 summon 2 dire 2 griz.
Always wanted max possible of both.
LifePincher
31-07-2005, 06:37
I'm envious.
Mines a 3 summon 2 dire 2 griz.
Always wanted max possible of both.
Why Dire? I'd go Spirit Wolf for the extra dmg. Life for the Grizzly at lvl 45ish is minimal. Then again my Dream helm is +3Summon/+3Grizzly/+3How/+3Spirit Wolf :uhhuh:
i agree SoB is a useless pos, they shoudl make it alot better
or druid only multiple spirits
Why Dire? I'd go Spirit Wolf for the extra dmg. Life for the Grizzly at lvl 45ish is minimal. Then again my Dream helm is +3Summon/+3Grizzly/+3How/+3Spirit Wolf :uhhuh:
Its what I've got, like I said....I'm envious. :(
And since its for a strictly pvm hunter I actually use dires more than grizzly.
The big boy really only gets involved with bosses or in scuffles where the dires go down fast.
Sorry for turning this into a summoner thread.
you can only get 3/3/2 on a magical
TheGreatStickels
31-07-2005, 20:34
I don't think any class skill should be given to other classes through use of items. Thats just stupid
you can only get 3/3/2 on a magicalUmm, no. 3/3/3 is possible, just astronomically rare.
there was a thread on this..
xpumafangx
31-07-2005, 23:06
Ya druid only muti spirits would be core!!
The return of leech and blocking in pvp would be my 2c.. ofcourse along with buffing fireskills and were form :uhhuh:
mepersoner
31-07-2005, 23:31
there was a thread on this..
Changes in 1.10.
OneFromBeyond
01-08-2005, 00:10
Getting things back to the basics
-No more teleport on enigmas! or items granting druid abilites .If thhey want a druid make one them selves.
My biggest thing to remove would be the teleport on enigmas. And remove the bots!!!
there was a thread on this..Yes, and Garbad got pwned by RTB (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=370571&highlight=3%2F3%2F3). Then a screenie (http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfol...reenshot205.JPG) was posted with a rare. Not magical, but who picks up blue pelts anyway? (I'm sure there are some, but it sure isn't popular in the general public.)
I, for one, would love to see a runeword/unique that could hit the 4-frame fury while 2-handed and range 5. It might make my highest level Druid (ever) something better than 30.
Garbad_the_Weak
01-08-2005, 00:48
Oh, I never bothered to read the replies. And I still need to see that pic, as it goes against all druidic wisdom, which is old and beyond dispute.
Garbad
Of course it is. :rolleyes:
Forget just Enigma.. make all runewords using only low-level items; and only worthwhile for PvM. That'd bring rare weapons back into the ballfield for trading.
inkanddagger
01-08-2005, 05:37
Life Leech In Pvp!!!
Pleasssseeee.
harley98
01-08-2005, 21:10
the vines could use some work.
1. more life. they should be hard to kill.
2. all vines should be able to lay down mats and have a slowing effect like gumby.
id like to have a flock of ravens, like 20 of them. hehe!!!!!!!
wolves and griz:
1. need better ar and dr.
or
2. increase their numbers like a necros skel. 7 spirit/dire wolves or 4 grizzlies at lvl 20 would be nice.
or
3. be able to summon spirit wolves, dire wolves, and griz at the same time.
spirit of the barbs needs to be (at a minimum) on par with thorns if not higher.
TaoNinjitsu
01-08-2005, 21:22
i would like oak spirits to not die so damn easy, like stay next to you as a bear does when u tele. If that happened, my wind druid (Pagan_Winter) would be friggin unstoppable. But people would still scream "AA!"
god i love this game. fuk WoW i aint payin money to play!
Oh yeah and.... druid is best class hands down :)
mepersoner
01-08-2005, 21:28
In case you missed it. (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=372170)
In case you missed it. (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=372170)
yea ... we get nothing ... nothing but up'ed eth armors and probably 10 runewords that will hurt the game more ....
LifePincher
01-08-2005, 22:13
you can only get 3/3/2 on a magical
3/3/3/3 is possible on Magic. I know this because my Summon helm has:
+3Summoning/+3Grizzly/+1Volcano/+1Geddon (the +1 stats can become +3)
I've also seen Magic helms with 3/3/3/1 and that also proves it.
I know rares can come close but not like Magic. It's the next best thing though. I have a rare w/+2Druid/+3Grizzly/+3Geddon/+3SOB I'll post a pic when the realms become available if anyone wants to see. Too bad the SOB mod was'nt HoW or Spirit Wolf ;)
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