Dracul vs. Wizzies

[Dennis_KoreanGuy]

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Okay... then what should I do with this? I'm not selling it to Charsi or to other ppl for that matter... I guess make a seperate mule just dedicated to this items and take multiple screenies of it and let it just stay? :(

[Omikron8]

Do the realms and yourself a favor, sell the gloves to Charsi, talking about build ideas on these forums with popular dupes is bad enough, blatantly promoting bugged items is just wrong.

also life/mana leech is essentially non existent in pvp, except for life tap

[Dennis_KoreanGuy]

also life/mana leech is essentially non existent in pvp, except for life tap
Is this because you simply don't do enough damage for you to actually "see" the difference? Or it just doesn't work at all?

Life / Mana leech is existent in PvP last time I checked, b/c I can leech off my opponents minions eg : shadow. Can I not?

[Phyrexial]

Is this because you simply don't do enough damage for you to actually "see" the difference? Or it just doesn't work at all?

Life / Mana leech is existent in PvP last time I checked, b/c I can leech off my opponents minions eg : shadow. Can I not?
There is a huge penalty on leech when doing damage to another PLAYER. I'm not sure what the exact number is, but you could be doing around 10,000 damage with 10% leech and expect to get 1,000 life back but it suffers such harsh penalties you would be lucky to get 5-10 life back or something else equally negligible.

The reason you leech back plenty of life/mana from minions is because they are treated like monsters. When they do damage to an opponent it doesn't suffer the 1/6th penalty. When you damage them, you don't suffer a 1/6th penalty. You also don't suffer any leech penalty.

[Dennis_KoreanGuy]

There is a huge penalty on leech when doing damage to another PLAYER. I'm not sure what the exact number is, but you could be doing around 10,000 damage with 10% leech and expect to get 1,000 life back but it suffers such harsh penalties you would be lucky to get 5-10 life back or something else equally negligible.

The reason you leech back plenty of life/mana from minions is because they are treated like monsters. When they do damage to an opponent it doesn't suffer the 1/6th penalty. When you damage them, you don't suffer a 1/6th penalty. You also don't suffer any leech penalty.
Yes I knew that. So Life / Mana steal suffers more penalty than the PvP Penalty?

[Omikron8]

Eg. 1000 physical damage inflicted to player

~170 after penalty

10% leech

17 life returned IF you actually hit them

yay? No, waste of precious equipment slots

[Zero-unit]

Actually it doesn't work that way. Take any number lets say for example 120% life leech and give it the 1/12 penalty just for being life leech versus another player, 12% and then go through the process.

Dr@kE~

[Omikron8]

Actually it doesn't work that way. Take any number lets say for example 120% life leech and give it the 1/12 penalty just for being life leech versus another player, 12% and then go through the process.

Dr@kE~

a further 1/12 penalty !?

Wow my calculation was bad enough :(

[Dennis_KoreanGuy]

Actually it doesn't work that way. Take any number lets say for example 120% life leech and give it the 1/12 penalty just for being life leech versus another player, 12% and then go through the process.

Dr@kE~
Hmm I guessed there would be a second penalty just for leeching in PvP but didn't know it would be 1/12... that's huge.. :rolleyes: