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Joony
28-07-2005, 09:33
Hello. I was just hoping that someone with experience, which is probably most of you, could tell me what a 50k rabies attack would be like in PVP. The damage could be higher, and I haven't been extremely thourough, but this character would have pretty nice resists, a good chance to block, fair defence, and nice health. Is this druid going to get torn apart? Is 50k rabies that much. It sounds alright too me. I think the build is pretty cheap, and I'm not exactly rich. I guess all I really want too know is, is 50k rabies enough?

Joony
28-07-2005, 09:39
Oh. Actually I could improve the damage without changing anything at all. As I mentioned, I'm not exactly rich. So when I planned this out, I planned it out using cheap facets, like 3/3's, and downgraded the 50% more poison skill damage from bramble, as it is a bit expensive for me. Which would add some odd thousand more dmg. And I'm also not taking -resist effect of the facets and some of my gear into account.

Forcefeedback
28-07-2005, 12:36
If people know to expect a rabies attack and prepare accordingly, it won't do much damage.

Normally
50000 / 10(pvp penalty) / 4(75% resist) = 1250 damage

Prepared
50000 / 10 / 20(95% resist) = 250 damage
I won't calculate poison length reduced since it is said that it doesn't work well against rabies.

So 250 damage over what, around 20 seconds? Doesn't sound too flashy.

It will work against unprepared opponents well enough but even without it you still have to hit the opponent to infect, multiple times against most characters, and avoid blows while your opponent dies.

ELNINO
28-07-2005, 18:00
Well, whats your gear? That will help in getting more psn dmg. Also, have a weapon on switch like death's web or a 6x psn facet sword, so after you infect them, switch your wep and you will get the psn advantages of the wep switch, even thou you didnt hit w/ that wep.

MonsterSlayer
28-07-2005, 18:46
If people know to expect a rabies attack and prepare accordingly, it won't do much damage.

Normally
50000 / 10(pvp penalty) / 4(75% resist) = 1250 damage

Prepared
50000 / 10 / 20(95% resist) = 250 damage
I won't calculate poison length reduced since it is said that it doesn't work well against rabies.

So 250 damage over what, around 20 seconds? Doesn't sound too flashy.

It will work against unprepared opponents well enough but even without it you still have to hit the opponent to infect, multiple times against most characters, and avoid blows while your opponent dies.


The prepared one will mostly use 75% poison resist unless he's getting owned hard. Then it'd be 50000/24 = 2083 damage. Of course there is a pretty long duration on rabies so it's not like 2083 / sec. If the opponent decides to go maximum poison resist it would be: 50000/120 = 416 damage. That's also why you should have Fury as a backup, though with enough -% poison resist gear you'd do fine.

Joony
28-07-2005, 20:35
Alright, thanks for the help. I appreciate it. Now I just have to work on getting myself a nice bramble and some 5/5 facets... or even 3/5 sseeing as I'm not the richest... I guess I might post my build later, as I know that the people on these boards will have a lot of recommendations. Thanks again.

Dennis_KoreanGuy
28-07-2005, 21:28
It's easy as hell to get 95% Poison resi even after your Facets since so many common items such as Jade of Tan Do Li give huge poison resi bonus.

yelopen
28-07-2005, 22:00
It's easy as hell to get 95% Poison resi even after your Facets since so many common items such as Jade of Tan Do Li give huge poison resi bonus.

...and give 20 to maximum poison res. :thumbsup:
Just found one the other day :lol:

Joony
28-07-2005, 22:12
what if I had like.. 20 facets and a death's web?

MonsterSlayer
28-07-2005, 23:08
It's easy as hell to get 95% Poison resi even after your Facets since so many common items such as Jade of Tan Do Li give huge poison resi bonus.

Who uses jade tan do on their char? Or have one in inventory? The key would more like using double death, antidote, andarials visage, aso. Still using these items and being forced to drink 40 antidotes before each duel takes time and give the ww advantages when using Fury. Or if it was a ww using a 5 fpa Fireclaw :) or is it 6 I'm not sure... still it'd be dual elemental focused on poison damage, the opponent won't know what hitted him/her. ;)

Forcefeedback
29-07-2005, 12:21
Who uses jade tan do on their char? Or have one in inventory? The key would more like using double death, antidote, andarials visage, aso.
Maybe the well prepared ones who are smart enough to sacrifice skills/resists/fcr for survivability against a rabies druid.

Still using these items and being forced to drink 40 antidotes before each duel takes time and give the ww advantages when using Fury. Or if it was a ww using a 5 fpa Fireclaw :) or is it 6 I'm not sure... still it'd be dual elemental focused on poison damage, the opponent won't know what hitted him/her. ;)
I thought potting was frowned upon in duels.
Werewolf can reach 5 fpa fireclaw, werebear 4 fpa.
I think the big explosion graphics from fireclaw will open the opponents eyes of your opponents, or you could lie your rear off and say you are using fire damage charms. :uhhuh:

what if I had like.. 20 facets and a death's web?
If they are all perfect you would have 20 * 5 + 50 = 150% lower poison resist. Jade tan do has 95%, deaths hand has 50% combining them you get 145% poison resist, 20% maximum poison resist and 75% poison length reduced. Rest of the resists can be gained through armor, jewellery and charms.

MonsterSlayer
30-07-2005, 11:05
I thought potting was frowned upon in duels.


In my opinion only life pots are "illegal" to use, since that's the only thing you can see that the opponent is using, so you could just as well think, well if he uses it why shouldn't I? Oh and of course also rejuvations or how you spell it :D

electricblue
30-07-2005, 14:43
rabies is never enough.

go hybrid & try to go over 60k

Ce Olba
30-07-2005, 19:56
owh, and u can have 20 sockets in your gear, since the max is
6 (weapon)+
4(armor)+
4(shield)+
3(helm)=
17

And that would be 17*5=-85% enemy poison resistances and +85% poison skill dmg. i would rather just take a -55% dw and a 45% bramble and a 20/-20 monarch and a 15/-15 helm. But yes, a 17% 5/-5 facet gear and trang gloves would give you a total of 105% to poison skill dmg, which would be pretty damn much.