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ZSpoonZ
20-07-2005, 01:20
My worst drop from meph was NOTHING! nada zip zilch :mad:
What's ur worst drops?

krischan
20-07-2005, 01:41
Congratulations. The chance for Meph not dropping anything at all is ridiculously low. RTB might know the exact probability.

carrothers
20-07-2005, 01:47
My worst drops from Mephisto include, but aren't limited to the following:

1. Mephisto's Soulstone

2. Unidentified Green Text Breast Plate (it's like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get!)

:king:

Superhal
20-07-2005, 02:07
i just got one the other day. no items, it was like a normal emerald and X gold.

helvete
20-07-2005, 03:04
1: Nothing at all. (yes, me too, and it has happened more than once).
2: Gold.
3: Exploding Potion x2
4: Bone Wand of Zeal <--- Teh weapon for a zealamancer...

carrothers
20-07-2005, 04:15
ROFL, Bone wand of Zeal? Talk about a crazy item. Now, if something super wierd like "Hydra Bow of Leap Attack" dropped, that'd be pretty cool. I doubt that an item like that even exists, but still, how funny would that be?

skoolbus
20-07-2005, 07:46
I'm pretty sure that if any monster dies too close to a wall/river of blood/chasm in baals chamber that the drops can be 'lost'. You did get drops, but the game tried to drop them where they can't go.

RTB
20-07-2005, 08:42
Congratulations. The chance for Meph not dropping anything at all is ridiculously low. RTB might know the exact probability.
1 in (15/80)^-7, which is 1 in 122741. Getting nothing from meph's quest drop is slightly easier at 1 in 48200 (=(15/70)^-7).

Skoolbus: In andy's and duriel's chambers there are quite a few patches on the ground where items cannot fall. They look no different than the rest, so you'll never know if an item went missing on one.

abel
20-07-2005, 11:30
1 in (15/80)^-7, which is 1 in 122741. Getting nothing from meph's quest drop is slightly easier at 1 in 48200 (=(15/70)^-7).

Skoolbus: In andy's and duriel's chambers there are quite a few patches on the ground where items cannot fall. They look no different than the rest, so you'll never know if an item went missing on one.
That's so messed up, you're like 9 times more likely to get an SOJ with 0% MF than nothing. That's some luck.

Decebal
20-07-2005, 11:56
My worst drop from meph was NOTHING! nada zip zilch :mad:
What's ur worst drops?


Geee that never happened to me! :D
He always drop something but nothing at all i never seen that!

Dont give up though! He might drop you the othery way around!
Remembered when he dropped me 4 uniques once...Storm, shako, maras and wolfhowl in 1 drop....And that was in the beggining of ladder 2 after 5 days of restart....Got very lucky there! :D

/Dec

SBeerens
20-07-2005, 12:11
Two runs in 10 minutes... and twice only Gold....

cheers with that!!
Stijn

Myrakh-2
20-07-2005, 12:21
Mephi had a good day... he gave you gold instead of useless items the first time, and when you came back right away he was generous and gave you a pile of gold again... no stupid "weren't you just here before? One pile per person only".

What's to complain?

SharnMes
20-07-2005, 12:25
"Nothing" as in those blue/yellow items which I cant even SEE anymore when ever I MF. But I just KNOW they are there because I heard them drop...

Really weird...

thegiantturtle
20-07-2005, 16:05
"Nothing" as in those blue/yellow items which I cant even SEE anymore when ever I MF. But I just KNOW they are there because I heard them drop...

Really weird...

turn off your maphack.

helvete
20-07-2005, 16:07
When MFing meph (and pindle for that sake) I check quite a lot of blue and yellow items. Examples would be:

- All rings and amulets. Never know when something good drops, although no +2 all on rares and magics
- All blue elite armor. Could be "jewelers whatever of the whale"
- All blue Monarchs. Could be "jewelers monarch of simplicity/colossus/deflecting"
- All rare polearms and weapons that barbarians can wield one handed. Just upgrade if they are godly.
- All charms and jewels.
- All circlet type helms, except for the green ones...
- All rare gloves (looking for +2 skill tab and 20% IAS with resists or other goodies)

So you see, most of the time I get something "potentially godly" that I check, and from time to time I find stuff like 39% MF rings, 15%resist/10FCR rings, 410% ED phase blades, and lots of semi-useful starter gear, like 20%resists/+2 tree rare amulets. I'm sure some of these items could go for runes Pul and higher (much higher on those jeweler's items).

SharnMes
20-07-2005, 16:25
turn off your maphack.

???????????

sangfagel
20-07-2005, 16:58
Mal rune...

I got CI 5s later :rolleyes:

kennyG
20-07-2005, 17:16
turn off your maphack.


I foudn this extremly hillarious. Props to you dog. Meph always gives stuff after the right amount of MF, But nothing at ALL. Man you shouldn't play the latterie. It's a sign!

batuchka
20-07-2005, 18:25
1) Jeweler's Balrog Blade Of Teeth (ethereal)
2) Mechanic's Bone Wand of Firebolt

technokale
21-07-2005, 09:26
key
8058 gold
5422 gold
1896 gold
6863 gold
4133 gold

Done with 581 magic find.

DelcorTheHero
21-07-2005, 12:47
Remembered when he dropped me 4 uniques once...Storm, shako, maras and wolfhowl in 1 drop....And that was in the beggining of ladder 2 after 5 days of restart....Got very lucky there! :D

/Dec


what

/dec

grimsleeper
21-07-2005, 20:31
the worst drop by far has got to be the ubiquitous green breast plate! even a no items drop is better than a bleeding green breast plate!!

~GrimSleeper
http://gamersgraveyard.blogspot.com

krischan
22-07-2005, 01:00
Of course, 2 green breast plates drops beat that... to bad I haven't made a screenshot. Instead I have this one (http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/7645/dualsetdrop6hs.jpg)...

helvete
22-07-2005, 01:36
It's well possible to get three of the same set item as well.

Unrealism
22-07-2005, 01:46
Those two heavy belts may have not been the same.
Irath's and Infernal both have heavy belts as part of the set...

krischan
22-07-2005, 10:45
That's right and IIRC I haven't identified them. Anyway, Meph also dropped two set breastplates (two times) and two set double axes at the same time for me. I just didn't make screenshots.

JooopIE
22-07-2005, 11:46
2x Arrows
2x Bolts
Lots of Gold
Stamina potion
Just watched my drops for a day or two, when I saw this thread. Yeah Meph's really hot atm :p

Warrior of Light
22-07-2005, 14:07
Just for fun I have calculated chances for Mephisto to drop 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 items. Can someone help me by checking these calculations? I’m bad at math.

Item quantity : Chance

6: ~1/1.6
5: 1/4
4: 1/10
3: 1/43
2: 1/311
1: 1/4046
0: 1/122741

I have used fallowing formulae:

Chance=P!/((P-I)!*I!) * (ND/T)^(P-I) * (D/T)^I,

Where
P – Picks (7 for Meph).
I – Items to drop (0, 1, 2, …)
ND – NoDrop (15 for Meph)
T – total drop (80 for Meph)
D – drop probability (T-N, 65 for Meph)

Also you should add 7 and 6 items drop chances together, because no monster can drop more than 6 items.

helvete
22-07-2005, 15:34
If those numbers add up to 1/1 then your math is likely correct. I have no idea as to how correct/incorrect your formula is.

krischan
22-07-2005, 16:50
Just for fun I have calculated chances for Mephisto to drop 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 items. Can someone help me by checking these calculations? I’m bad at math.
Humbleness is just a special kind of vanity :)

Honestly, people who are bad at math would have problems to calculate 15/80 without a pocket calculator. You know about binomial coefficients, that's above average, I guess :thumbsup:

Ter
22-07-2005, 20:45
Last night in the same run Meph dropped me one pile of 2400ish gold..
and then Andariel dropped NOTHING go me..

yes it is possible Andariel's drops hit the bad tiles but still...I killed both bosses in what looked like the middle of their respective areas.

LonghornRob
23-07-2005, 09:00
Isn't rushing Meph on bnet a pain in the ***? Durance lvl 2 is HUGE afterall...

azngeekguy
24-07-2005, 02:48
turn off your maphack.

agreed...most the time when peopel can't see their item they got maphack and it autohides useless items

helvete
24-07-2005, 14:08
Those useless items can be useful and worth high runes (even unduped high runes) as I said in a previous post in this thread...