What's the best zealot weapon??

[Darnoc]

I'm trying to figure out what weapon to use with my fanat-zealot, but I am having difficulty figuring out the best one for max damage while not attacking too slow.

Any recommendations? Would a ebotdz still be the best choice over all the ladder runewords out there(grief pb, death eth zerker)? What about an eth runemaster or eth death cleaver(not that I'd be able to afford one)? I figured a last wish would be pretty powerful with a fortitude, pally edmg phoenix and a pride merc, but would the damage be enough to warrant the cost of it, especially with the lack of ias? Any thoughts on this woul be appreciated, thanks-

Darnoc

[Bigrob]

grief ba, period.

No last wish it just costs too much and the dmg cant compare to grief.

No other runewords can beat this, unless u have a godly rare weapon. :rolleyes:

[Darnoc]

is the berzerker worth the loss of extra speed compared to a phase blade for 35 more damage? A zerker is at 0 and a phase is -30; will the extra hits make up for the minimally less damage on the grief since its +dmg not % edmg? I don't know a whole lot about speed break points with zeal..

[Bigrob]

u can go to ias calculator to see how much ias u need for a zerker. (with fantactism)

The reason to use ba instead of pb is because of the range, (as well the extra dmg) and is not so hard to hit the last zeal bp with a zerker, for any zealot of course.

ba is just one of the best one-handed wep in d2.

[Tim B]

u can go to ias calculator to see how much ias u need for a zerker. (with fantactism)

The reason to use ba instead of pb is because of the range, (as well the extra dmg) and is not so hard to hit the last zeal bp with a zerker, for any zealot of course.

ba is just one of the best one-handed wep in d2.

yeah. the only real advantage in the phase blade is the repair costs i guess.

[jordy666]

:rolleyes:

there is no best zealot weapon

and grief stinks :D

-jordy :king:

[Arutha]

:rolleyes:

there is no best zealot weapon

and grief stinks :D

-jordy :king:

I 2nd that.

[Darnoc]

So what? Should I just scrap my zealot and make a hammerdin like everyone else? Or is there a way to make him effective?

btw, Jordy- does your avatar show a zealot?

[sir goatscelot]

First off, there's no such thing as the "best" anything in this game lol. If there was we would all have them and we would all look the same ;)

You also did not mention PvP or PvM..all the weapons you mentioned are good so go with the one you feel you enjoy the most. For PvM, Stormlash is my top choice..pvp is not my thing but again, your choices in your first post are all good :) Have fun

[Arutha]

So what? Should I just scrap my zealot and make a hammerdin like everyone else? Or is there a way to make him effective?

btw, Jordy- does your avatar show a zealot?

Why not make both? A hammerdin is obviously going to be faster but zealots can be effective with many different set ups. There are so many options out there that deliver both speed and dmg. My zealot is in possesion of 5 different weapons, 3 armors, 2 helms, 2 gloves, 2 boots, 3 ammys, 4 rings, and no matter what set up he is useing he has a 4 frame attack and does a lot of dmg.

[Tastychiken_europe]

Why not make both? A hammerdin is obviously going to be faster but zealots can be effective with many different set ups. There are so many options out there that deliver both speed and dmg. My zealot is in possesion of 5 different weapons, 3 armors, 2 helms, 2 gloves, 2 boots, 3 ammys, 4 rings, and no matter what set up he is useing he has a 4 frame attack and does a lot of dmg.


with a nice ebotdz u get +30stats... does grief beat that?

[Bigrob]

with a nice ebotdz u get +30stats... does grief beat that?

grief kills ebotz by miles.

[Arutha]

grief kills ebotz by miles.

Personal preference. Myself I prefer botd over giref, and infact the only time I ever use greif is to smite.

[Darnoc]

First off, there's no such thing as the "best" anything in this game lol. If there was we would all have them and we would all look the same ;)

You also did not mention PvP or PvM..all the weapons you mentioned are good so go with the one you feel you enjoy the most. For PvM, Stormlash is my top choice..pvp is not my thing but again, your choices in your first post are all good :) Have fun


Sir Goatscelot,

I forgot about a stormlash, thanks for the recommendation; maybe I'll see about trying to get my hands on a decent one. Would a good regular one do, or is it worth getting an eth? Yes, this pally is for pvm; I'm trying to develop a zealot that can fair well in hell, especially acts 4 and 5 though iron maiden always seems to get me.

I currently have a 280 death cleaver, 389/64 last wish, and a decent grief phase blade but I haven't seen a whole lot of a difference between them when it comes to damage. Last wish seems do to a bit more damage than the grief, but it breaks more and doesn't swing as fast it seems, but I figured the damage might be significantly greater for it if I picked up a fortitude and a merc pride for the concentration aura and extra damage to go along with the LW's might aura and my fanaticism aura.


Arutha,

Of the five different weapons you choose between, which two do you find yourself using the most; does it just depend on what part of the game you're playing? Did you go with a main aura other than fanatacism?

Do you think an enhanced damage armor setup(rends or cb gloves, fortitude, phoenix, dble uped biggins or w/e, and dmg phoenix or hoz) or a damage reduction armor setup would be best(levi or valor, verdungos, coa, resist phoenix ss or hoz)?

Just wondering cause I'm kinda half and half right now with a levi, verdungos, pally damage phoenix, draculs, and tal mask(ya I know, I get made fun of for it all the time) -the last two for leech.

How many points did you throw into smite btw? I'm guessing it's not worth maxing, right? I don't have a whole lot of experience with pally's if you couldn't tell.


Tasty-chiken,

Yeah, I think a ebotdz might be the way to go here, but I was trying to see if the ladder-only runewords could beat it :D I guess they probably can't, but I figured the aura-mixing(concentration, might, & fanaticism) might push last wish/pride over an ebotdz despite the 30 stat points, the ias, and the fact it can be ethereal.


Bigrob,

Are you thinking in terms of smite or zeal in regards to grief over a ebotdz? Is there a certain aura that goes better with grief, do you know? What kind of setup compliments grief?


Thank you everyone for your input; I appreciate it, it helped work pass faster today :)

[Bigrob]

U can check out everything about grief vs. botd. As all ppl say, the lowest grief beats the highest ed ebotd. Grief also adds ds which means even more dmg. The only good part about ebotz is +30stat part.

I can tell some ppl on ladder to prove to u that grief is more effective than ebotd. But again, the choices are yours.

If u want the best performance, i suggest u go with grief. Unless u have a godly rare weapon, as i mentioned before.

[Tim B]

make a passion runeword, or get a ranged attack(widowmaker is good) on switch to deal with iron maiden. Passion will also kill physical immunes.

[Arutha]

Arutha,

Of the five different weapons you choose between, which two do you find yourself using the most; does it just depend on what part of the game you're playing? Did you go with a main aura other than fanatacism?

Do you think an enhanced damage armor setup(rends or cb gloves, fortitude, phoenix, dble uped biggins or w/e, and dmg phoenix or hoz) or a damage reduction armor setup would be best(levi or valor, verdungos, coa, resist phoenix ss or hoz)?

Just wondering cause I'm kinda half and half right now with a levi, verdungos, pally damage phoenix, draculs, and tal mask(ya I know, I get made fun of for it all the time) -the last two for leech.

How many points did you throw into smite btw? I'm guessing it's not worth maxing, right? I don't have a whole lot of experience with pally's if you couldn't tell.



I mostly use my pally for PvP although he can handle PvM fine. The set ups I use the most are:
berber coa
highlords/ravens
eth dc
fort
exile
rends
dungos
gores

and the other is: (this is the one i use alot in PvM)
eth andys
highlords/ravens
death zerk
up'd shaft
exile
20%ias gloves(I use the ones that also have +100ar since i dont have a good pair of crafted/rare ones)
dungos
gores

I do about the same dmg with both set ups since I need more ias gear with death than I do with dc.

maxed fanata, holy shield, defiance, zeal, and am working on sac

only have the one pt. in smite but it is still effective when I use my +395 giref pb which is hardly ever.

I do 2k-5.5k but have 100% chance of ds although i think the cap is 95% or something, but with death there is also the crushing blow which is nice.

42k def, 15k ar

other weapons that are fun to use - perfect eth razor, 406% botdz, and I just up'd and zod'd a headstriker but have yet to use it. Performance wise I don't care what people say but with my other gear I do not to better with giref.

[sir goatscelot]

Any Stormlash will do..the one I use is non eth 246 ed. Even in large games your the kill speed is quite good imho. The static is pretty crazy in that before another group of bad guys close in on you, half their hps are gone if their within range ;)

I also used Death Cleaver on mine before Storm was available and its nice as well, but not the same for sure. Whatever you choose, just have fun with it :)

A simple and relativley cheap set up is: Gore Riders, Duress or Shaft, Tgods or String or Dungos, Atmas ammy or Highlords, Hoz or Storm shield, Kiras or Rockstopper, and some leech rings. You can tailor your choices to suit as Shaft and Storm both are not needed, as the cap is 50%.

As any melee class is concerned, Iron Maiden is your only real threat. Not much you can do about it unfortunately :(
For phys immunes you have some choices, the traits on StormL can take down phys immunes, but its slow in large games. Atmas ammy is the second option, and the third is Reapers toll on merc.. I like the latter as slows and breaks most PI.

The bottom line is if you don't want to play another Hammerdin, a Zealot is god fun for sure. Have fun with it.

[demondestroyerxdemondestr]

Any Stormlash will do..the one I use is non eth 246 ed. Even in large games your the kill speed is quite good imho. The static is pretty crazy in that before another group of bad guys close in on you, half their hps are gone if their within range ;)

I also used Death Cleaver on mine before Storm was available and its nice as well, but not the same for sure. Whatever you choose, just have fun with it :)

A simple and relativley cheap set up is: Gore Riders, Duress or Shaft, Tgods or String or Dungos, Atmas ammy or Highlords, Hoz or Storm shield, Kiras or Rockstopper, and some leech rings. You can tailor your choices to suit as Shaft and Storm both are not needed, as the cap is 50%.

As any melee class is concerned, Iron Maiden is your only real threat. Not much you can do about it unfortunately :(
For phys immunes you have some choices, the traits on StormL can take down phys immunes, but its slow in large games. Atmas ammy is the second option, and the third is Reapers toll on merc.. I like the latter as slows and breaks most PI.

The bottom line is if you don't want to play another Hammerdin, a Zealot is god fun for sure. Have fun with it.
no one care about edc?

[sir goatscelot]

no one care about edc?

Yup we do ;) But he stated that it was for PvM, in which case Stormlash imho is the faster killer. An EDC is nice for sure, but way too exspensive on USwest ladder where I play. Also, I believe that EDC is better suited to PvP which I know some duelers swear by. But again, it's all good as far as putting the hurt on the badies :) ..either way the dmg is great.

[MarathonMatt]

Why does this question keep coming up? I recommend that you just look at some weapons online and see what takes to your liking. There is never an end to these weapon depates and probably never will be. But unless you want to start up heated arguments I'd pick your weapons based on your own preferences.

No harm meant to all you guys but these things never end... :D