ISO and Ft

[Dgray]

Up and cant sleep so i decided to make a ISO for my next character

ISO: arreats face:2x 5 socketed beserker axe:

maybe iso: maras any % : barb skill charms : druid skill charms

FT: gheed fortune x 3: Alma negro : andariels visage : ariocs needle: baranars star 1 eth 1 not: bartuc cut throat : black hand key: ali baba: bonehew: bul kathos sacred charge : buriza x 4 : carion shard: chance gaurds : courpsemourn: demonhorns edgex3: doombringer: dragonscale: duriels shell : eagle horn : eshuta temper x3: etheral edge : executioners justice: gore rider: Gaurdian angel : griswald heart: hell slayer : ik set except armor : jade talon: jalas mane: kiras gaurdian : lidless : lycanders aim: medusas gaze : natures peace: ormus robe x 2 frost nova and blaze : que hagens : rainbow facet 4/5 : sandstorm trek :sazabis full set :silk weave: skin of vipermagi: skulders : stealshade : stonecrusher: stoneraven: tgods: occy x 2: thunderstroke: titans: trang ouls girth: trang ouls wing: waterwalk wolfhowl x2: wizard spike: carion wind


Corruption Knot
Ring
Required Level: 65
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 86
Fingerprint: 0x52425669
+10 to Energy
+18 to Maximum Stamina
+10 to Attack Rating
Cold Resist +5%
7% Life stolen per hit

Doom Master
Ring
Required Level: 65
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 86
Fingerprint: 0xb0c300e6
+53 to Attack Rating
Lightning Resist +8%
Cold Resist +18%
8% Life stolen per hit
Level 1 Attract (19/22 Charges)

Ghoul Whorl
Ring
Required Level: 35
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 86
Fingerprint: 0x376ef7f8
+4 to Life
+11 to Maximum Stamina
+27 to Attack Rating
Lightning Resist +19%
6% Life stolen per hit
Level 4 Telekinesis (30/30 Charges)


Order Touch
Ring
Required Level: 46
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 78
Fingerprint: 0xb5ff18c1
+15 to Energy
+39 to Mana
+19 to Maximum Stamina
+18 to Attack Rating
4% Mana stolen per hit
10% Faster Cast Rate

[omgwtfbbqpwned]

MF on Gheeds?

I have some Barb skillers up for trade...

[Dgray]

below 30% .....

[San]

Would this axe
Berserker Axe
One-Hand Damage: 24 to 71
Durability: 13 of 26
Required Dexterity: 59
Required Strength: 138
Required Level: 64
Axe Class - Normal Attack Speed
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0x18ccb4d9
Socketed (5: 0 used)

and this skiller
Expert's Grand Charm
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 42
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 55
Fingerprint: 0xf2bf71b3
+1 to Combat Skills (Barbarian Only)

land me a Skullder's Ire?

[salvo]

Hi, i can offer you an arreats 5%, how many pgems needed to level you bulkathos sacred charge?

[midnightvulture]

FYI, Dgray is currently engaged in a debate as to his legitimacy in NeckRomancer's items for pgems auction. I would recommend checking it out before trading. Kremtok HAS cleared him to trade. Sorry Dgray, I just wanted people to have all the info they could before making any decisions.

mv

[Dgray]

salvo- i have no need for pgems, i have a few hundred if you can throw in a vampgaze or war travs .or a skiller with 2nd mod or 2 skillers .. id accept

san- sure send them both--san btw it is socketed with a p topaz just a FYI lemme know if you have a problem with it.

abosulte_powa13@hotmail.com send it san


and vulture... .when your going to tell the story you should tell it all, since you dont know the whole story -- theres no need to talk about it -- salvo &san i suggest you check out the thread for yourself. its the pgem auction one.

vulture enjoy the witch hunt.

[San]

san- sure send them both--san btw it is socketed with a p topaz just a FYI lemme know if you have a problem with it.
K, mule sent. No problems there.. I'd put one in it any way.

[Dgray]

figured .... not long enough!!

[Dgray]

sent or in the process of

[midnightvulture]

I'm sorry if there's a misunderstanding Dgray. I tried to send people to the only thread I know of where any of this is being talked about, and made sure to mention the fact that the moderator cleared you to trade. I was only trying to facilitate the spread of information which other traders might find valuable. Please don't take any of this too much to heart. From what I've seen new traders with any amount of wealth are often subject to more suspicion than more known forumites. I think if you just wait a lot of this will blow over, provided you are legit.

mv

[Sleepless]

Hi, i can offer you an arreats 5%, how many pgems needed to level you bulkathos sacred charge?
Oh, not to sound offensive,but I thought that getting burnt one time would hav e tought you something :rolleyes:

@minightvulture : You've done the right thing there.

@DGray: Well, your story is HARDLY believable/possible though Kremtok allowed you to trade aslong you keep people informed that you duped 2 'fury' runeword and I can't see a disclaimer in your trade thread. Don't complain about midnightvulture, he probably avoided you a ban.

[Dgray]

Oh, not to sound offensive,but I thought that getting burnt one time would hav e tought you something :rolleyes:

@minightvulture : You've done the right thing there.

@DGray: Well, your story is HARDLY believable/possible though Kremtok allowed you to trade aslong you keep people informed that you duped 2 'fury' runeword and I can't see a disclaimer in your trade thread. Don't complain about midnightvulture, he probably avoided you a ban.

mind your own buisness. seriously your not a moderator. a moderators mother it seems like. he didnt say anything about me having to post that on there at all. thanks for talking about stuff you dont even know about.

[frosty]

mind your own buisness. seriously your not a moderator. a moderators mother it seems like. he didnt say anything about me having to post that on there at all. thanks for talking about stuff you dont even know about.

Considering that trading is an action that includes more than one person, you can hardly ask someone to mind his own business if your actions is going to affect others.

Raising awareness about possible dupers/hackers/whatever should be the duty of every forumite that trades. The evidence must be there of course, which in this case, there is.

[SincereX13]

mind your own buisness. seriously your not a moderator. a moderators mother it seems like. he didnt say anything about me having to post that on there at all. thanks for talking about stuff you dont even know about.


I'll dupe every item your after and send them out... deal?

[Dgray]

I'll dupe every item your after and send them out... deal?
wow you dont even know what your talking about, i didnt dupe anything and try to trade it. get a life seriously.

[Cattleya]

Okay, I'm going to try to be nice and explain the situation to you.

Some of us don't trust you. This is a forum based around trust, and without it we can't function. If you expect people to just back off on this issue, you will be disappointed. Some of us don't want your items in the trade pool, and so we will make sure that everyone that trades with you understands the impact your items will have.

Here is why I personally don't trust you. From your earlier posts, it seems as if you don't believe that Pgems aren't a big deal, and I don't believe you were careful about keeping the items found with your barbarian separate from the rest of your items. Sure you told Krem you kept them separate, but I simply don't believe it. Does that mean that I am right? Maybe not. But as long I have that nagging doubt, I won't trade with you, and I won't trade with anyone who completes a trade with you.

Honestly, if you want to be a part of this community, why don't you hold off on the trade and MP, and just join in the discussions on the SPF?

[midnightvulture]

Word. I completely agree with Cat. I would also like to add that I find your posts a bit...angry, for lack of a better word. From what I've seen everyone has been at least civil in their treatment of you, and some have been outright friendly, but you usually decline to reciprocate. I think it would be great if you were a member of the forums, but I also think you might need to modify your habits if that's going to work. I hope this is taken in the spirit it was intended, and not as a threat or anything.

mv

[Disco-neck Ted]

Right now, Dgray, your chief concern seems to be getting what you want. That's a fine priority to have, but not at the expense of others.

This is supposed to be a community of people interacting and helping each other. Raising a storm of controversy by insisting that you be allowed to trade when you really haven't contributed anything useful to the forums or otherwise earned trust and acceptance seems a bit selfish.

It is important to understand the reasons why we are so cautious. If it turns out that you are bringing questionable goods to the table, then the people who trade with you will not only be out whatever items they have traded, but may well have their characters "tainted" from having used bogus goods.

For example, if someone uses gems from you to cube a really nice item and then finds you duped the gems, they will really have to think hard about all the levels their character might have gained while using an illegit item. It might mean abandoning all that hard work or even giving up on the character altogether if they don't have a recent backup.

You may not take things this seriously, but we certainly do. So, try to be a little more understanding about the consequences of your insistance to be allowed to trade. If you are as legit as you claim, then what is the harm in waiting for a while before trading?

Relax. Hang out at the SPF. Get to know people. There is a lot more to this game than just getting items.

[Dgray]

Okay, I'm going to try to be nice and explain the situation to you.

Some of us don't trust you. This is a forum based around trust, and without it we can't function. If you expect people to just back off on this issue, you will be disappointed. Some of us don't want your items in the trade pool, and so we will make sure that everyone that trades with you understands the impact your items will have.

Here is why I personally don't trust you. From your earlier posts, it seems as if you don't believe that Pgems aren't a big deal, and I don't believe you were careful about keeping the items found with your barbarian separate from the rest of your items. Sure you told Krem you kept them separate, but I simply don't believe it. Does that mean that I am right? Maybe not. But as long I have that nagging doubt, I won't trade with you, and I won't trade with anyone who completes a trade with you.

Honestly, if you want to be a part of this community, why don't you hold off on the trade and MP, and just join in the discussions on the SPF?

i just have alot of pgems, i actually like them but ive accumulated enough to here i wouldnt run out for a while. and your right i wasnt careful, however fortuneitly enough for me, my barbarian is level 76 now, and 70 when i first found out of this, so since i got the swords on there at level 65, in the 5 levels i havent found enough stuff to dump out and empty my stash, so since level 65 i havent dumped anything off that character, so i still have only 1 illlegit item, and nothing beside what my barbarian is wearing is "rotten".

[Dgray]

Right now, Dgray, your chief concern seems to be getting what you want. That's a fine priority to have, but not at the expense of others.

This is supposed to be a community of people interacting and helping each other. Raising a storm of controversy by insisting that you be allowed to trade when you really haven't contributed anything useful to the forums or otherwise earned trust and acceptance seems a bit selfish.

It is important to understand the reasons why we are so cautious. If it turns out that you are bringing questionable goods to the table, then the people who trade with you will not only be out whatever items they have traded, but may well have their characters "tainted" from having used bogus goods.

For example, if someone uses gems from you to cube a really nice item and then finds you duped the gems, they will really have to think hard about all the levels their character might have gained while using an illegit item. It might mean abandoning all that hard work or even giving up on the character altogether if they don't have a recent backup.

You may not take things this seriously, but we certainly do. So, try to be a little more understanding about the consequences of your insistance to be allowed to trade. If you are as legit as you claim, then what is the harm in waiting for a while before trading?

Relax. Hang out at the SPF. Get to know people. There is a lot more to this game than just getting items.

the only reason why i duped a item was so i could make guide to maken a frenzy barb. all my items are legit EXCEPT FOR ONE SWORD which is going to be deleted in a few acts.

[Immortal_Slayer]

Once again Dgray, you don't seem to actually see the problem, or are trying to avoid it. ONe duped item is about the same as 100 duped items. If you're wanting to keep clean, then you shouldn't be able to trade at the moment, until you finish your barb, until you finish you 'guide', and until you actually delete the whole character. Everything that comes into contact with your sword should really be considered tainted. You're ruining the economy based on trust and mutual respect between members.


-Slayer

[Dgray]

how by letting people know i have a duped sword i ruin it? would it make you guys happy if i delete it now and use a different sword?

[essojay]

ITA with Immortal_Slayer.

Nobody cares if you're going to delete that sword.

To be totally legitimate again, you must delete the barbarian character, and all others if they've been sharing items.

Even then, most will refuse to trade with you simply out of lack of trust, so you must build it up again by being an active member of forum discussion.

If you have any intention of being accepted here, you must refrain from MP and trade until you build that trust again. It would be a shame to have legitimate members become tainted and have to delete their characters and items.

Finally, you must stop being so defensive. In your claims of "trying to write a guide" and "going to delete the duped items once I'm done" I don't see that you're taking this situation seriously; rather, it seems to me that you're just trying to do whatever pleases you without consideration for others.

If one or two members are on your case, maybe it's just their being paranoid. If half your trade thread is filled with others' doubts in your legitimacy, then it's more serious.

[Dgray]

ITA with Immortal_Slayer.

Nobody cares if you're going to delete that sword.

To be totally legitimate again, you must delete the barbarian character, and all others if they've been sharing items.

Even then, most will refuse to trade with you simply out of lack of trust, so you must build it up again by being an active member of forum discussion.

If you have any intention of being accepted here, you must refrain from MP and trade until you build that trust again. It would be a shame to have legitimate members become tainted and have to delete their characters and items.

Finally, you must stop being so defensive. In your claims of "trying to write a guide" and "going to delete the duped items once I'm done" I don't see that you're taking this situation seriously; rather, it seems to me that you're just trying to do whatever pleases you without consideration for others.

If one or two members are on your case, maybe it's just their being paranoid. If half your trade thread is filled with others' doubts in your legitimacy, then it's more serious.

see another person not knowing the FULL STORY. the reason why people found out i duped b/c i told them i duped a sword for the purpose of writing a guide. thats how it first came about. YOU READ ONE POST ABOUT IT AND ASSUME THE WORST STOP BEING SO IGNORANT AND PASSING JUDGEMENT.

[Sleepless]

Disclaimer: Don't even bother answering this post, just read it carefully to understand my belief. This shall be my last hijack post toward you.

You seems to not be aware of the phenomen we call "taint" here. Your items are legit in the game point of view but they aren't in our. The reason behind this is that the illegit items provided you an advantage toward finding the rest of your items so therefore making them illegitimate also known as "tainted". All the char that used these items are considered tainted (read: MUST be out of the trade pool). We *COULD* have keep the barb separated from the others char but you hasn't said so until you got caught and the act of hacking already broke the little bit of thrust most of us had

@Moderator's mother comment : Well, since a lot of the old-timers left there must be someone to "welcome" alll the new TUBs that might join. Oh, I know that krem hates me badly so you're safe right now, he won't listen to me until another fiasco happens. (read: Darkmyths)

@"I made it for a guide" : There are already a frenzy barb guide and if the only variation to an usual frenzy build is the fury runeword, then no one will actually use it since I don't know anybody that owns a legit Jah that would make fury.

PS: We are NOT asking you to leave but we WANT an answer. If the allegation that you didn't kept your items separated is true, you MUST NOT trade or MP even if you can browse the forum freely.

[Dgray]

Disclaimer: Don't even bother answering this post, just read it carefully to understand my belief. This shall be my last hijack post toward you.

You seems to not be aware of the phenomen we call "taint" here. Your items are legit in the game point of view but they aren't in our. The reason behind this is that the illegit items provided you an advantage toward finding the rest of your items so therefore making them illegitimate also known as "tainted". All the char that used these items are considered tainted (read: MUST be out of the trade pool). We *COULD* have keep the barb separated from the others char but you hasn't said so until you got caught and the act of hacking already broke the little bit of thrust most of us had

@Moderator's mother comment : Well, since a lot of the old-timers left there must be someone to "welcome" alll the new TUBs that might join. Oh, I know that krem hates me badly so you're safe right now, he won't listen to me until another fiasco happens. (read: Darkmyths)

@"I made it for a guide" : There are already a frenzy barb guide and if the only variation to an usual frenzy build is the fury runeword, then no one will actually use it since I don't know anybody that owns a legit Jah that would make fury.

PS: We are NOT asking you to leave but we WANT an answer. If the allegation that you didn't kept your items separated is true, you MUST NOT trade or MP even if you can browse the forum freely.

okay first off, my guide is going to be different from the other guide, ive seen it and didnt like it. YES I DID KEEP MY ITEMS SEPERATE, NO ONE HAS BROUGHT IT UP EVER SINCE SEEING KREMTOKS POST ON SAYING "HE CAN trade"

[Taburet]

Guys. Don't you think everybody is tired from this war? You will never prove your cases to each other. So just stop the fight. Let every member to deside whether to trade with DGray or not. Or you can flame this endlessly.

[Cattleya]

YES I DID KEEP MY ITEMS SEPERATE, NO ONE HAS BROUGHT IT UP EVER SINCE SEEING KREMTOKS POST ON SAYING "HE CAN trade"Actually I did. I just said that I didn't believe you. That's my prerogative.

Please, I'm getting tired of your constant whining. Simply telling us we have to believe you because there isn't enough proof to ban you isn't going to change people's opinions. If you really want to participate in this community, the best thing you can do is let this drop and refrain from trading (and MP) for a while. Really, that is good advice. I'm not just trying to be a witch.
Guys. Don't you think everybody is tired from this war? You will never prove your cases to each other. So just stop the fight. Let every member to deside whether to trade with DGray or not. Or you can flame this endlessly.Well, the problem is, anyone who decided to trade with him may be limiting their trading options in the future. I think they need to know that.

Honestly, the only way this is going to go away is if:

(1) He decides to do the intelligent thing and remove himself from trading and MP until people get to know him better and he earns people's trust.

(2) He commits a bannable offense.

If I were evil, I'd start a betting pool on this one. :evil:

[Taburet]

DGray, really, taking time is a good idea. In other case there will be a wtich hunt at every trade you will try to make.

[Dgray]

when i need something, ill put up a ISO list. when i dont need anything i wont post one. i dont need anything right now so i wont need to post one for some time. thanks for your concern.