Auction: Items for pgems

[NeckRomancer]

Hello.

Items for Pgems auction.

Auction ends on Monday, July 25, 2005, 12:00 PM GMT+8 (Manila/Hongkong Time).

Please indicate the index of the item for easier referencing.

Note: the Oculus is from 1.09

Thanks!

1:
Arachnid Mesh
Spiderweb Sash
Defense: 124
Durability: 11 of 12
Required Strength: 50
Required Level: 80
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x5ca1c037
+97% Enhanced Defense
Increase Maximum Mana 5%
20% Faster Cast Rate
+1 to All Skill Levels
Slows Target by 10%
Level 3 Venom (4/11 Charges)

2:
Arreat's Face
Slayer Guard
Defense: 324
Durability: 53 of 55
(Barbarian Only)
Required Strength: 118
Required Level: 42
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 83
Fingerprint: 0xdb411539
+20 to Strength
+20 to Dexterity
+168% Enhanced Defense
All Resistances +30
3% Life stolen per hit
+2 to Barbarian Skill Levels
30% Faster Hit Recovery
20% Bonus to Attack Rating
+2 to Combat Skills (Barbarian Only)

3:
Baranar's Star
Devil Star
One-Hand Damage: 129 to 159
Durability: 37 of 172
Required Dexterity: 44
Required Strength: 153
Required Level: 65
Mace Class - Very Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x103c96a7
+15 to Strength
+15 to Dexterity
+200% Enhanced Damage
Adds 1-200 fire damage
Adds 1-200 lightning damage
Adds 1-200 cold damage over 1 seconds
+100 Maximum Durability
50% Increased Attack Speed
200% Bonus to Attack Rating
150% Damage to Undead

4:
Demon Limb
Tyrant Club
One-Hand Damage: 99 to 180
Durability: 65 of 65
Required Strength: 133
Required Level: 63
Mace Class - Normal Attack Speed
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x1c2f2f6d
+212% Enhanced Damage
Fire Resist +20%
Adds 222-333 fire damage
10% Life stolen per hit
123% Damage to Demons
150% Damage to Undead
Level 23 Enchant (17/20 Charges)
Repairs 1 durability in 20 seconds

5:
Gimmershred
Flying Axe
Throw Damage: 42 to 184
One-Hand Damage: 47 to 182
Quantity: 75
Required Dexterity: 108
Required Strength: 88
Required Level: 70
Axe Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0xd56bcae5
+180% Enhanced Damage
Adds 218-483 fire damage
Adds 29-501 lightning damage
Adds 176-397 cold damage over 4 seconds
30% Increased Attack Speed
Increased Stack Size

6:
Jalal's Mane
Totemic Mask
Defense: 268
Durability: 12 of 20
(Druid Only)
Required Strength: 65
Required Level: 42
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x39afe6d2
+20 to Strength
+20 to Energy
+171% Enhanced Defense
All Resistances +30
+2 to Druid Skill Levels
30% Faster Hit Recovery
20% Bonus to Attack Rating
+5 to Mana After Each Kill
+2 to Shape-Shifting Skills (Druid Only)

7:
The Oculus
Swirling Crystal
One-Hand Damage: 18 to 42
Durability: 32 of 50
(Sorceress Only)
Required Level: 42
Orb Class - Slow Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 90
Fingerprint: 0xac5f83b4
+20 to Energy
+20 to Vitality
+20% Enhanced Defense
All Resistances +20
50% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
+3 to Sorceress Skill Levels
30% Faster Cast Rate
+5 to Mana After Each Kill
25% Chance to cast Level 1 Teleport when struck

8:
War Traveler
Battle Boots
Defense: 126
Durability: 12 of 48
Kick Damage: 37 to 64
Required Strength: 95
Required Level: 42
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0xb747e078
+10 to Strength
+10 to Vitality
+163% Enhanced Defense
+15 to Minimum Damage
+25 to Maximum Damage
+30 Maximum Durability
Attacker Takes Damage of 6
33% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
25% Faster Run/Walk
40% Slower Stamina Drain

[omgwtfbbqpwned]

I love PGem auctions. =D

1. Arachnid's Mesh - 20 PGems
8. War Travaler - 10 PGems

[sirpoopsalot]

yeah, why not...

2. Areat's Face - 20 PGems


PS. Do Pskulls count? I was saving to reroll some rares, but I could easily part with them

[javcek]

6. Jalal's Mane - 15 pgems

[NeckRomancer]

PS. Do Pskulls count? I was saving to reroll some rares, but I could easily part with them

pskulls count. :)

[midnightvulture]

1. arachnid mesh 25 pgems

2. arreat's face 25 pgems

mv

[NeckRomancer]

Correction: End of auction is July 18, 2005. My sincerest apologies. I've been working night shift and have really lost track of the current date.

[omgwtfbbqpwned]

1. Arachnid's Mesh - 30 PGems

[Dgray]

archanid mesh 40 pgems

war travs 12 pgems

[Immortal_Slayer]

Devil's Star -8 Pgems
Gimmershed - 8 pgems
Jalals - 18


-Slayer

[Firvagor]

Arachnid Mesh - 50 pgems

Arreat's - 35 pgems

Would you want about all even amount of each type, or is there a type you'd prefer a little more of? In other words, is there a proportion you prefer, or do you not care as long as its not all one type (unless you don't mind that :D )?

[Dgray]

Arachnid Mesh - 50 pgems

Arreat's - 35 pgems

Would you want about all even amount of each type, or is there a type you'd prefer a little more of? In other words, is there a proportion you prefer, or do you not care as long as its not all one type (unless you don't mind that :D )?


arachnids mesh 100 p gems

[Firvagor]

arachnids mesh 100 p gems

Um...holy crap! :scratch:

1. Arachnid - 120 pgems

2. Arreat's - 35 pgems (just to restate and keep it together)

[Dgray]

160 pgems for arachnids mesh

[omgwtfbbqpwned]

160 pgems for arachnids mesh

Oh wow... :eek:

I don't think I want to top that. :p

8: War Traveler - 15 PGems.

[Dgray]

Oh wow... :eek:

I don't think I want to top that. :p

8: War Traveler - 15 PGems.


war traveler 25

[omgwtfbbqpwned]

8: War Traveler - 30 PGems.

[Dgray]

i hate to junk this up ....but those war travs and mesh are mine.


i have done nothing but save every single gem since i started playen....i dont know why i just like them....and i figure that this is the onyl thing ill use them for......never really found em good for craftinng....never got into it. dont mean to be mean or cocky but i want em/need em and well...i got the pgems.

[Kremtok]

arachnids mesh 100 p gems

You won't be trading anything unless you clear something up for me: Why should we permit you to trade here when you admit to duping in this thread (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=366331)? Respond to me via Private Message.

[Taburet]

Holy sh.t... 120 pgems for arachid? The world is going crazy.
1. Arachnid mesh - 125 PGems ;)
Firvagor, seems we're the leader's... maybe we can talk it out, I really do not want to pay such a crazy price for the mesh, but I need it...

[Taburet]

Dgray. Please respond whether/when your trades would be accepted by Kremtok. In such a case I'm going out of the trade, mesh doesn't cost 160 or more PGems in any case.

[Dgray]

i think it will be fine. its just a misunderstanding. i had one item duped to make 1 character. its not a big deal, i dont do it now i just did it one time and i have the intention of deleteing it when im done so there should be a problem.

[chicagofan51]

4: Demon Limb: 10 pgems

[Immortal_Slayer]

But if any of those Pgems were found by the character you duped on, then that would mean those items are tainted, and cannot be traded.


-Slayer

[omgwtfbbqpwned]

In such a case I'm going out of the trade, mesh doesn't cost 160 or more PGems in any case.

It doesn't cost that much... well, it shouldn't anyway. :lol: I guess the SP value system is wack.

Just counted all my PGems... it seems I have ~200 left. =D I guess I could go for the Arachnid's Mesh... but I won't. =D

Anyway, if Dgray does happen to be knocked out of the race, does my original bid of 10 PGems remain as leader?

[Dgray]

i dont see how if you take a item and dupe it(remind u 1 item).....put it on a character when it gets to level 65 has tainted all the other items. it doesnt make sense...there still perfectly legit. i dont understand it. the pgems from the character are seperated to a certain extrent ... but how would it make them tainted... its a rediculous concept....its pgems...

[maxgerin]

i dont see how if you take a item and dupe it(remind u 1 item).....put it on a character when it gets to level 65 has tainted all the other items. it doesnt make sense...there still perfectly legit. i dont understand it. the pgems from the character are seperated to a certain extrent ... but how would it make them tainted... its a rediculous concept....its pgems...

Technically, items you found before duping anything to your Barb is not tainted. However, I don't think many will believe if ever you say that "this certain item I found came before" or something like that. Trust is the basis of this economy. And by bidding here without openly informing the community that you dupe (which is a rule, I believe... edit: no, not even informing the other that you dupe is enough... I don't think you can trade at all if you dupe... that right?), I don't know if many will trust you.

But still, it remains with NeckRomancer if he will accept you items if ever you win. Or, if Krem will allow you to continue at all.

Ummm... how can the Pgems be separated from the character? If you mean they are two completely different things, then of course. But since the Pgems were found using a character that uses duped items (assuming they are), then they are considered tainted. And you may find that "rediculous", nobody can force you to see otherwise since that is your opinion, but that's how this community generally works... and if can't agree with it then just don't trade at all.

--maxgerin

[midnightvulture]

2. Arreat's 40 pgems

@ Dgray: from everything I've seen (I've only been around a few months) the SPF has a very very very low tolerance for duping. :thumbsup: It's one reason this place is as cool as it is. The best way to convince people of your legitness might actually be to wipe your stashes and characters and start fresh.

[Dgray]

most are still on the barb itself....some arent....


To this day i dont consider myself a duper or every will. I admit i duped 1 thing 1 THING. it will serve its purpose and be deleted. i am not trading a duped item nor will i. i intend on deleteing it when its purpose is over, why would i openly say ive duped something if im not being 100% honest? im not trying to scam anyone at all here. im just playing the game, i did it once so i could create a how to make a frenzy barb -- thats it--

[necrolemming]

Duping one item is as bad as duping one thousand.

Not to mention, where did you get the Jah for the unduped Fury? O_o

[Immortal_Slayer]

As necrolemming said, no matter how many items you dupe, be it one or a thousand, it's still considered duping. It's not just the item that is tainted, the SPTF considers all items found by the character after the duped item was equipped tainted as well.


-Slayer

Edit: yeah sorry for the hijack Neckromancer.

[sirpoopsalot]

As necrolemming said, no matter how many items you dupe, be it one or a thousand, it's still considered duping. It's not just the item that is tainted, the SPTF considers all items found by the character after the duped item was equipped tainted as well.


-Slayer

And to take this further, if you mule items off onto other characters, anything they find is also tainted. You may have heard the saying: "One bad apple spoils the whole bunch." It's quite symbolic of the SPTF mantra.

[/hijack] Sorry Neckrommancer, I suggest we all let Krem and DGray settle this outside of this thread, and let NR get back to trading.

I don't think anyone's bid on the Occy yet (#7) - 25 PGems.

[Firvagor]

Holy sh.t... 120 pgems for arachid? The world is going crazy.
1. Arachnid mesh - 125 PGems ;)
Firvagor, seems we're the leader's... maybe we can talk it out, I really do not want to pay such a crazy price for the mesh, but I need it...

You know, you probably need it more than I do, so I'll drop out of that one (if Dgray's 160 has been eliminated from that one, which I won't have any say in). I just needed it for completing my grail. :p So you can probably bring it down so it's still above the last person who posted below my 120 (and/or Dgray's 100 for the same reason).
If Dgray's is still valid, and you choose to drop out, though...I'll keep going. :D

Arreat's - 50 pgems

If I saved all my pgems from when I first started, I'd have a lot more than I do (which is still quite a lot, because for the first year or so, day after day I'd save every single gem I'd find and cube them up to perfects, then I just started saving flawlesses for more room). I'm going for all 1.10 stuff now (including gems/runes/etc), but not exactly considering myself SPL because I have a 1.09 Azurewrath. I don't even know where my 1.09 gems went anyway...

[Dgray]

this is just a big witch hunt you guys have fun im done with this place

[omgwtfbbqpwned]

this is just a big witch hunt you guys have fun im done with this place

Eh, does this mean you're leaving? :(

Anyway, just a question... if he drops out, how far the auction for Arachnid's and War Travaler revert back to... the last bid before Dgray's first, or the highest bid before/after Dgray's highest bid?

[sirpoopsalot]

Eh, does this mean you're leaving? :(

Anyway, just a question... if he drops out, how far the auction for Arachnid's and War Travaler revert back to... the last bid before Dgray's first, or the highest bid before/after Dgray's highest bid?

So long Dgray, no hard feelings were intended :( .

IMO, the bids on those items should start from the last bid before Dgray's first, since Dgray's bids drove the price up 'unauthentically'. It sounds like the demand is there to drive the price back up fairly quick. Plus, if the bid doesn't get high enough, Neckrommancer will still have the right reject the trade anyways.

NR, you don't have to publish it, but if there's a reserve/minimum bid for these items, maybe you could let us know so we know where to start with an opening bid.

[Firvagor]

If Dgray has indeed left, the next highest would be Taburet's 125 for the Arachnid (I'm done bidding on it as long as Taburet's still in), and he can bring it down below that (if he so chooses) since the next one back was Dgray's 100, then my 50, then Dgray's 40, and so on.
As for the War Travs, before omgwtfbbqpwned, it was Dgray's 25, then omgwtfbbqpwned's 15, then I think it's negligible since someone will most likely bid more than 15.

[Dgray]

well im still in it. it was at level 65 when i got the sword on there....nothing has been taken off there.... so all my gems are still fine. so im bidding 160 still for

1) arachnid mesh -160

[midnightvulture]

2. arreat's 55

mv

[Firvagor]

Arreat's - 65 :D

[Dgray]

war travs...60

[javcek]

6. Jalal's - 25 pgems.

[Firvagor]

2. Arreat's - 70 pgems (just because...)

[NeckRomancer]

oh boy. I got nervous when I saw this thread had reached 5 pages. I knew something had to have gone off-track.

I apologize for leaving things like this. I had RL stuff (i.e. date with girlfriend) to do all day yesterday.

@DGray: I'm very sorry but as max said, trust is very important in this group. As of the moment, you still have to gain the trust of the SPF members. I have to take you out of the running for now.

@Firvagor: To answer your question on gem type preference, I view all types (amethysts, rubies, skulls, diamonds, topazes, emeralds) as the same for auctions.

As to the current standings, this is the current standings, as far as I've recorded (feel free to correct me):

1. ararchnid mesh : omg - 30
2. arreat's face: firvagor - 70
3. baranar's star: immortal_slayer - 8
4. demon limb : chicagofan51 - 10
5. gimmeshred: immortal_slayer - 8
6. jalal's mane: javcek - 25
7. oculus: <none>
8. war travelers: omg - 10

on item 1, since firvagor and taburet have backed out, omg is the current leader at 30. on item 8, since only omg and gray have posted bids, I put down omg's lowest bid. anyway, if anyone else is interested, they can always try to post better bids.

Given what happened, I am extending this auction to Thursday, July 21, 2005, same time (noon GMT+8). I apologize (again) but I need to give the bidders time to settle down and reconsider given what has happened.

And to the fellow SPFers who took up the cudgels of arguing for legitness in trading in this thread, THANK YOU VERY MUCH! :clap: No need to apologize for the hijack. AFAIK it's not a hijack when you're looking out for your fellow SPFer's interests, specially since I wasn't around yesterday to react.

[sirpoopsalot]

you missed one: me... #7 Occy - 25 Pgems

... I'll never forgive you for having a life ... oh no wait, I'm over it. :p

[NeckRomancer]

Apologies, sirpoopsalot! I honestly didn't see that bid at the end of your post. :D

Apologies too for having a life, :D if you can call 5-10 hours a week for my girlfriend as 'having a life.' We used to spend more time together, but my current job has been hard on our schedule, with night shift and overtime needs. Add to that that my boss is trying to seduce me to the Dark Side of the Work i.e. management.

[Visionaire]

1. ararchnid mesh : omg - 30
8. war travelers: omg - 10


1: 40 pgems
8: 20 pgems

Visionaire

[Taburet]

To DGray: Relax, man, here is the permanent witch hunt ;) Just wait while other's will trust you. When I first came here there was a little personal Kremtok's hunt for me but we talked it out :) and everything is ok for me now.

To NeckRomancer: As I said If Dgray and his 160 PGems are out ;) , I'm still in, so
1: 50 PGems (Arachnid)
7: 30 PGems (Oculus)

To Vis: Hey, man. Aren't you doing something wrong? I'm still in for the mesh :)

[Visionaire]

To Vis: Hey, man. Aren't you doing something wrong? I'm still in for the mesh :)

Heh, it's yours. Enjoy. :)

Vis

[Taburet]

Heh, it's yours. Enjoy.

OK, thanks ;)

Банкомат в Сочи. "Вставьте карточку" - "Введите пин-код" - "Возьмите
деньги" - "Возьмите чек" - "Возьмите прикуп"...

[Dgray]

this is dumb i get taken out of a bid for items with pgems.......

ohh well i guess it makes perfect good sense for a dishonest person claim to be honest about only duping on a forum where duping is frowned apon with the intentions of something other than what he claimed because im a evil scam artist who has a witch for a mother therefor im a warlock trying to take over the world, first starting with the d2 forums. yes i admit i duped 1 item in a attempt to help out the forums and get the character done faster, i guess im a real terrible person for doing that, pitty on my soul.

well you found your warlock, whose good at tien the noose?

i hope your all happy.


*Btw- to answer a persons question where did i get the Jah rune. Me and my friends from high school play single player together. we save our runes and transmute them to higher ones, its not that hard, save them all el eld the ones from act 5 quest , hell forge, finding high runes that we have from playing, my friend mike flagg actually transmuted himself a cham rune from all the runes we've collected. hes working on getting a zod rune. he told me he waisted 6 ist runes doing it to.

Enjoy tearing this* apart to.

P.S. sorry for junking up ur auction Necro its prolly more of a burden on you than me, you've all been so kind to me so i dont know if ill be showing my face on the trade forums for a while unless if i absolutely need a item.

[omgwtfbbqpwned]

1: 50 PGems (Arachnid)

1: Arachnid's Mesh - 60 PGems.

8: 20 pgems

8: War Traveler - 30 PGems.

[Cattleya]

this is dumb i get taken out of a bid for items with pgems.......This was hardly a witchhunt. You said some things that raised questions about the legitimacy of your items. A moderator asked you to discuss the matter with him before trading on the forum. You continued to bid in this thread without any indication that the issue had been resolved with the mods. You don't seem to understand why we don't want any items found by a character using a duped item. From your previous posts, it doesn't look like you were very careful about keeping things separate (since you don't see the big deal since as they are just Pgems.) That is going to be a problem if in a forum based on trust. If you don't understand or accept our values, we can't trust you to trade according to those values.

@NeckRomancer: I'm sorry for the hijack. Good luck with your auction!

Edit: Dgray, if you want to discuss this with me further, please PM me.

[Taburet]

Arachnid - 65.
Oculus - 30.

[Kremtok]

Dgray: Bad form. You need to be more patient. While your explanation did not exactly make me happy, I can find nothing wrong with it. Therefore, I will leave it to the open forum whether they wish to trade with you or not. For now, you may do as you please as long as it is within the rules of this forum.

Everyone else: Dgray's explanation to me was that he only duped one item for one character, and that both the item and the character have been completely isolated from the rest of his characters and items. We have no reason not to trust him, so therefore, it is up to you to trade with him or not.

[Randall]

Me and my friends from high school play single player together. we save our runes and transmute them to higher ones, its not that hard, save them all el eld the ones from act 5 quest , hell forge, finding high runes that we have from playing, my friend mike flagg actually transmuted himself a cham rune from all the runes we've collected. hes working on getting a zod rune. he told me he waisted 6 ist runes doing it to.

Do you have any idea of how much you need to upgrade to get to Jah

A bit more as 6 Ist, that's for sure.

EDIT: How many characters do you have up to the act 5 Quest (Hellforge)

[Dgray]

hmm doh-----hes waisted 6 ist runes that hes found.....either by hell forge or just finding it. as if i didnt know it took more, well im glad you spotted that one.

[maxgerin]

hmm doh-----hes waisted 6 ist runes that hes found.....either by hell forge or just finding it. as if i didnt know it took more, well im glad you spotted that one.

Kindly clarify to my feeble mind...
How does one *waste* ("waisted"...I assume you wanted to say wasted) 6 Ist runes, or any rune for that matter, to cube a higher rune?


Btw- to answer a persons question where did i get the Jah rune. Me and my friends from high school play single player together. we save our runes and transmute them to higher ones, its not that hard, save them all el eld the ones from act 5 quest , hell forge, finding high runes that we have from playing, my friend mike flagg actually transmuted himself a cham rune from all the runes we've collected. hes working on getting a zod rune. he told me he waisted 6 ist runes doing it to.

And how is it possible that you have a Jah that you claim you cubed from runes you and your friend found, while at the same time saying that your friend cubed a Cham from ALL THE RUNES the two of you collected?
A little enlightenment on your anecdote, if you will.


NeckRomancer: Please excuse me for my second intrusion. :o


--maxgerin

[Randall]

hmm doh-----hes waisted 6 ist runes that hes found.....either by hell forge or just finding it. as if i didnt know it took more, well im glad you spotted that one.

you and your friends cubed up to jah + cham, are you cubing seperately or does each one cube for themselves ?

Again: How many characters did you get to the HF (for the jah/cham) as that seems to be your main source of runes.

Randall

[Visionaire]

8: War Traveler - 30 PGems.

8: 36 pgems

Guys, it might be offtopic that I make bid, instead of discussing Dgray. Sorry for that. :D :p

Visionaire

[rickyson1]

8: 36 pgems

Guys, it might be offtopic that I make bid, instead of discussing Dgray. Sorry for that. :D :p

Visionaire


its off topic for them to be discussing him here in the first place.

seriously your all more mature than that, dont hijack someones thread to verbally assault another forum member. if you need to ask those questions use pm/email/im

[NeckRomancer]

its off topic for them to be discussing him here in the first place.

seriously your all more mature than that, dont hijack someones thread to verbally assault another forum member. if you need to ask those questions use pm/email/im

As I said, I have no problems with fellow SPFers using this thread for such discussions. No apologies are necessary. :)

[Dgray]

there is a group of 6 of us who play, thanks for caring, thats all im gonna say unless if you wanna pm me. i do not have to explain myself to you all, its legit, if you cant handle it its fine, just b/c me and my friends did something u could think of / do

[Summoned]

there is a group of 6 of us who play, thanks for caring, thats all im gonna say unless if you wanna pm me. i do not have to explain myself to you all, its legit, if you cant handle it its fine, just b/c me and my friends did something u could think of / do
I guess you wouldn't mind posting a full atma readout of the sword and the runes, then?

[Immortal_Slayer]

Really, I don't see how duping the fury BB blade to write a frenzy guide for SP can be a valid excuse to dupe Fury BB and say nothing is wrong. It's not really as though anyone apart from some veterans could afford two of them anyway. As maxgerin pointed out, you contradict yourself quite a bit with transmuting.
This is no witch hunt. This is just trying to keep the trust and honesty the SPTF has been able to maintain. Dupe all you like on your computer, but don't spread it over here. You don't seem to value others who are trading here. How can you call yourself legit when you've duped?

-Slayer

[omgwtfbbqpwned]

Arachnid - 65.


1: Arachnid's Mesh - 70

Edit: I'm dropping out of the race for the WT.

[Taburet]

It wouldn't help I think ;)

Arachnid - 80.
Oculus - 30.

[Dodgydave]

my friend mike flagg actually transmuted himself a cham rune from all the runes we've collected. hes working on getting a zod rune. he told me he waisted 6 ist runes doing it to.

Enjoy tearing this* apart to.



Wow, your 'friend' burnt 6 Ists to get a Cham. I hope you realise it takes 256 Ist runes to make one cham. Even your Jah you claim to have cubed would have required 128 Ists. This is the single lamest explanation of how a high rune (or two in this case) was cubed I have ever heard. I can't believe you're still here.

"I cube my el's, elds, tals, rals, orts and 6 ists and get a cham and jah"

Oh that's funny stuff. I can't believe people are trafing with you in your other thread.

[Sleepless]

its off topic for them to be discussing him here in the first place.

seriously your all more mature than that, dont hijack someones thread to verbally assault another forum member. if you need to ask those questions use pm/email/im
If verbally assaulting someone is to point out that his arguments are false/wrong/impossible then yes we are assaulting him. About the hijack, read nekromancer last 4 posts.


Wow, your 'friend' burnt 6 Ists to get a Cham. I hope you realise it takes 256 Ist runes to make one cham. Even your Jah you claim to have cubed would have required 128 Ists. This is the single lamest explanation of how a high rune (or two in this case) was cubed I have ever heard. I can't believe you're still here.

"I cube my el's, elds, tals, rals, orts and 6 ists and get a cham and jah"

Oh that's funny stuff. I can't believe people are trafing with you in your other thread.

Hmm, 6 IST = Vex+ Gul so he's only at 250ist from cham or a mere 354,294,000 Thuls.

Source (yeah I do back my statement) : http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3242/470/1600/runes.jpg

*Btw- to answer a persons question where did i get the Jah rune. Me and my friends from high school play single player together. we save our runes and transmute them to higher ones, its not that hard, save them all el eld the ones from act 5 quest , hell forge, finding high runes that we have from playing, my friend mike flagg actually transmuted himself a cham rune from all the runes we've collected. hes working on getting a zod rune. he told me he waisted 6 ist runes doing it to.

Interesting fact about this

In other words: his friends and him played LoD since it came out and saved all their runes just so they can use a cube recipe that was never even announced until 1.10.

Not to mention that he has deleted well over a thousand characters after getting Ists from hellforge... in 1.09! (that can drop up to Um :rolleyes:

@Kremtok : I know you might be quite busy with RL (as most of us) but please read the whole thread and all his post. I can't believe the SPF has become so un-strict (in lack of a better word) to allow someone that admited duping to trade. :eek:

PS: Just to make sure you understand my point of view, the whole story of this guy looks like "The dog of the sister of the cousin of the hair cutter of the guy that live next my grandfather's brother cubed 2 Zod and gave to me today. What ? j000 d0nt b43li3ve ? me33e %!% St0pzz doingzzzz with**** oknp ?%?"6"

[Kremtok]

Look, I can only work with what I have. Yes, I have read the entire thread. In fact, I have read every post he has ever made, as well as checked his IP against returned bannees. Right now, all that I have to go with is a bunch of illegitimate runes that he admitted to duping. He explained to me that it was only for one character and that all others were kept separate. Leaving my opinion about the authenticity of his claim out of it, there is nothing to suggest that he is in any way dishonest. You have proof? Give it to me. I'd love to see it, becuase only then can I actually do something about this guy. Until then, it is entirely up to you all to decide whether or not to trade with him.

And after all of this, if there are still people in this forum who think that trading runes should be allowed, I pity you for being so naive.

[Sleepless]

Well, I did thought that a testimony from the person himself was a proof :rolleyes: I mean, he can hacks as much as he wants as long he doesn'T trade here. He did admit that his PGems might come from the "fury'ed" char since "it was only PGEMS..". Anyway, at least, please ask him to include a link to his thread in this current/future ISO since it's possible that new member didn't read this thread and don't even know about his issues.

[NeckRomancer]

Updates for today:

1. ararchnid mesh : taburet - 80
2. arreat's face: firvagor - 70
3. baranar's star: immortal_slayer - 8
4. demon limb : chicagofan51 - 10
5. gimmeshred: immortal_slayer - 8
6. jalal's mane: javcek - 25
7. oculus: taburet - 30
8. war travelers: vis - 36

If I missed someone again or made an error, please tell me. :)

[Dodgydave]

Anyway, at least, please ask him to include a link to his thread in this current/future ISO since it's possible that new member didn't read this thread and don't even know about his issues.

I agree with this or him at least having to state that items he is trading could have been found by a character using duped runes. If people have to state they use the red rune mod, a mod which is widely accepted, then anyone who has duped items and wants to trade items found with those duped items should have to state that. This is a practice which will be accepted by very few members and people should be explicitly warned of it before they decide to trade with him.

BTW, you're getting soft Kremmy. In the past I've seen you boot people for a hell of a lot less than this! ;)

[MFMOFO]

Hmm lets see.
He duped. :mad:
He cubed runes till jah and cham. :rolleyes:
He offered 160 pgems for a arachinid mesh :eek:
Hey, man do you have a spare tyrael's FT?

[Serdash]

Ok. Everyone calm down. It's definately getting way out of hand. Accusations are one thing, but just chill out a little, especially since Kremtok has already cleared him, this doesn't mean you have to just flame him more.

@Dgray: Try and be a bit more understanding towards (some of) these posts. I'll let you know why. When you duped that Fury Balrog Blade, and put it on that barbarian, it immediately became illegit.

I won't say duping an item is illegit if you don't use it or trade it or do nothing other than just make a second copy for no reason. But the fact is you used it. Automatically, once you put it on that barbarian with the exact same Fury weapon, that barbarian became illegit. Any items he found, bought, or gambled, have now become illegit. Every rune, jewel, charm, gem, down to even town portals and keys are now illegitly acquired.

If the items from that character aren't anywhere in your trading list in any way, good. You should be clear for trading and everyone should back the hell off.

@Everyone Else: You're starting to step over the line. I'm not a moderator, so it's not my place to lecture you, but I think all of my years here at the SPF have to count for something. Calm down, if you have any more evidence or proof, PM it to Krem. Otherwise arguing and stating the same old facts gets you nowhere.

Krem can't ban people on a hunch or simple speculation. (Though sometimes in the past it might've come in handy. :p )

EDIT:
Also, I'm sure Neck doesn't appreciate his thread being hijacked so badly. :uhhuh:

[Liliel]

Just wanted to point out... any characters that use items that came from that barbarian will also be illegit, and any items these characters ever find or use automatically become illegit as well.

Oh, and..

5. Gimmershred- I put 12 PGems

edit: crap, seems I'm too late.

[Dgray]

Hmm lets see.
He duped. :mad:
He cubed runes till jah and cham. :rolleyes:
He offered 160 pgems for a arachinid mesh :eek:
Hey, man do you have a spare tyrael's FT?


first off serdash thanks. 2nd off, i didnt cube the runes my friends did. i have tons of pgems b/c i always have collected them. your funny btw with the tyraels. i traded my last 12400042 of them off sorry. ive never actually had/wanted one. since you guys have never tried cubing runes its not that hard, all you need is 2 computers and 2 people with 1.09v and it comes pretty easy. but since you dont know what they did out of there 5 years of play, you juge, because you are all pr*cks. i try to do something nice for the forums and i get treated this way.

btw, nothing got muled over and mixed with anything normal of mine.

[shermo]

dgray:

I agree with everyone here that by duping runes you shouldn't be allowed to continue trading with us. However, there is a precedent for allowing someone back into the trading pool after they have done this sort of thing.

What isn't acceptable is the tone of your responses. Add in the fact that you claim to have legitimate runes half the time (and this is un-believable), and that you duped them the other half. This all adds up to make it seem like you're tripping over yourself with one excuse after another.

The "friend" excuse has been used many times before, and guess what? 95% of the time there were no friends.

@everyone else: It's disturbing that you continue to trade with this guy, especially considering what happened with the darkmyth fiasco.

[Taburet]

To Shermo:

DGray's fault is not proved that's why it's everyone's choose whether to trade with him or not.

To NeckRomancer:

Aren't you tired of using your thread as an ash can? I can see the future: in a couple of weeks the half of active threads will be flamed with the fighting people, trying to grind DGray into dust or to excuse him... Bad future really.

To all:
Stop this f.cking war!

[Dgray]

first off i didnt dupe runes, way to start rumors. thats the only thing ive duped. its great how someone reads 2 posts and then decides to give there ignorant opinion b/c they havent seen all of the posts.

[Immortal_Slayer]

Hmm. 'I didn't dupe runes. I just duped a runeword. It's realy not the same.' It's great how someone has half the trade forum telling him what's wrong and then continues to not realise his mistake just b/c he thinks he can. [/end copying]

So, mind letting me in on what other skills a frenzy barb can max other than the ones mentioned in the guide?? What's gonna be the main weapon of choice? Are you planning on giving everyone two fury BB? Think before you make an excuse next time.

Back on topic- 14 pgems on gimmershred. *Must..get...gimmershreds...*

-Slayer

[NSXdreamer]

To Shermo:

DGray's fault is not proved that's why it's everyone's choose whether to trade with him or not.

To NeckRomancer:

Aren't you tired of using your thread as an ash can? I can see the future: in a couple of weeks the half of active threads will be flamed with the fighting people, trying to grind DGray into dust or to excuse him... Bad future really.

To all:
Stop this f.cking war!

Don't like it, no one is making you to stay or even say anything, simple as that.

[Visionaire]

Don't like it, no one is making you to stay or even say anything, simple as that.

Man, don't you know - this thread was built as an auction thread. As for me - I'm tired to watch all this flame to understand if someone overbided my bid for these lousy war travellers.

Is it clear?

Heh, I've seen NeckRomancer don't mind if someone discuss in his thread. But as for now - guys, you just disturb those who try to BID, like me or Taburet.

@NSXdreamer: So don't you think that your phrase about 'no one is making to stay or even say anything' is a bit offensive?

Visionaire

[Taburet]

To NSXdreamer:
Yes, I don't like it because I trade in this thread while some guys just fight. And this is a trade forum and trade thread. NecRomancer allowed to discuss DGray in this thread, but I don't think he excpected what's going on now. That's why I am asking him if he likes that his thread is converted to the flame/fight zone. I will stay in this thread because my trade is not finished yet. Then I will go out of this flame and be happy of that.

[necrolemming]

@NSXdreamer: So I think your phrase about 'no one is making to stay or even say anything' is a bit offensive?

I don't think it's any more offensive than circumventing the word filter. :rolleyes:

If anyone wants to trade with him, fine. But don't be too surprised when some people shun you.

[Taburet]

If anyone wants to trade with him, fine. But don't be too surprised when some people shun you.
It's not important if anyone wants to trade with him or not. I agree that DGray should delete his barb and it will take a time build up the trust again for him, but the point is that:
1) The fight lasts for long and seems endless and pointless.
2) It's not the right place for this fight IMHO. I see about 3 spam posts for the 1 bid post here.

EDIT: Ok, I'm shutting down cause agree with Cattleya.

[Cattleya]

Seriously, this argument over the thread hijack is becoming a bigger hijack. It's almost funny. Since NeckRomancer already took Dgray out of the auction, lets move any issues to Dgray's trade thread.

And just so I'm not adding a completely OT post to this auction, here is an update for those who don't want to wade through the muck (I hope I got all of the changes from Neck's last update):

1. ararchnid mesh : taburet - 80
2. arreat's face: firvagor - 70
3. baranar's star: immortal_slayer - 8
4. demon limb : chicagofan51 - 10
5. gimmeshred: Immortal_Slayer - 14
6. jalal's mane: javcek - 25
7. oculus: taburet - 30
8. war travelers: vis - 36

[NSXdreamer]

It's just fact. If you go to a party, the host is okay with something you don't like, do you start make everyone do things your way or simple leave?

[Visionaire]

I don't think it's any more offensive than circumventing the word filter. :rolleyes:

If anyone wants to trade with him, fine. But don't be too surprised when some people shun you.

<DELETED PART WHICH MAY BE COUNT AS OFFENSIVE - Vis>

Okay, guys, let's calm down. If you want to discuss Dgray, please do it in his thread (to prevent offence: it's nothing more then private advice, because it appears to be disturbing). And big thanks to Cattleya for conclusions. :thumbsup:

Visionaire

[NeckRomancer]

To NeckRomancer:

Aren't you tired of using your thread as an ash can? I can see the future: in a couple of weeks the half of active threads will be flamed with the fighting people, trying to grind DGray into dust or to excuse him... Bad future really.


Sorry about the mess, Tab. I did say it was OK. But that was because people took up the argument of legitimate trading on my behalf in my absence last Sunday. I also happen to agree with most of those arguments. However, I don't want old timers here turning against each other. I also wouldn't like something like this on someone else's trade thread. In those scenarios, we'd all end up losing.

I'd just like to ask everyone who reads this to try to avoid posting about this issue in anger. In my experience, that's never a good idea. Please try to keep your arguments objective and above-the-belt. The next person who posts an inflammatory statement here is Andariel's boy toy, OK? :lol:

That said:

Updates for today:

1. ararchnid mesh : taburet - 80
2. arreat's face: firvagor - 70
3. baranar's star: immortal_slayer - 8
4. demon limb : chicagofan51 - 10
5. gimmeshred: immortal_slayer - 14
6. jalal's mane: javcek - 25
7. oculus: taburet - 30
8. war travelers: vis - 36

If I missed someone again or made an error, please tell me. (again).

@Liliel and everyone else still interested in bidding, this ends about 24 hours from now, as I stated in a post in page 5 or 6.

edit: Whew! Thanks to everyone for calming down.
edit2: Thanks to Cattleya for the update (confirming mine) as well.

[Dgray]

Hmm. 'I didn't dupe runes. I just duped a runeword. It's realy not the same.' It's great how someone has half the trade forum telling him what's wrong and then continues to not realise his mistake just b/c he thinks he can. [/end copying]

So, mind letting me in on what other skills a frenzy barb can max other than the ones mentioned in the guide?? What's gonna be the main weapon of choice? Are you planning on giving everyone two fury BB? Think before you make an excuse next time.

Back on topic- 14 pgems on gimmershred. *Must..get...gimmershreds...*

-Slayer

well i have a few suggestions for swords and theres about 23 different skills you can max.... maybe you should wait until my guide comes out to see :)
no i planned on giving everyone 1 fury bb when they click my guide and give me a email. (sarcasim).

theres more than 1 way to make every character. If your really so interested in how im going to make it let me know :) im glad you care. thanks champ.

[Liliel]

The next person who posts an inflammatory statement here is Andariel's boy toy, OK? :lol:

For that to be a threat, we'd have to actually consider that a bad thing.

...What?

Stop looking at me like that! >.<



@Liliel and everyone else still interested in bidding, this ends about 24 hours from now, as I stated in a post in page 5 or 6.

Alrighty then.
5. Gimmershred: Liliel- 18

ps: I'm assuming, since we've traded before, that you don't care if the PGems are from RRM games.

[Dgray]

Quote:
Originally Posted by NeckRomancer
The next person who posts an inflammatory statement here is Andariel's boy toy, OK?


FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME


have you guys seen her minus the crazy arms and poison....I CALL DIBS...you guys see that car commercial? i feel sorry for the one who calls dibs on duriel.

[Immortal_Slayer]

oO You're determined to take away that gimmershred from me aren't you Lilliel :p

20 pgems on gimmershred.


-Slayer

Edit: @Dgray, i guess you ahvne't read that frenzy guide have you, as it gives many different versions of frenziers. Although you can always go and max find potion on a frenzy barb, to make it your special one.

[necrolemming]

Although you can always go and max find potion on a frenzy barb, to make it your special one.

Pwned. :D

I'll sell the loser of the gimmer bid a 196% stack for the losing bid. GG?

[San]

I'll put.. *looks in stash* 60 Pgems on Gimmershreds.

[Immortal_Slayer]

Zzzz Not gonna beat San's bid. O well...One day my gimmershreds...One day...

-Slayer

[Liliel]

o.O 60? Damn...

Eh, I found a set of 204ed gimmershred today, so I guess I don't need it so much anymore. ^^;

[NeckRomancer]

Whew. The auction is over. Actually it ended about 50 minutes ago but my bus ride home took too long. Thanks to those who participated.

Final results:

1. ararchnid mesh : taburet - 80
2. arreat's face: firvagor - 70
3. baranar's star: immortal_slayer - 8
4. demon limb : chicagofan51 - 10
5. gimmeshred: san - 60
6. jalal's mane: javcek - 25
7. oculus: taburet - 30
8. war travelers: visionaire - 36

I would like to ask for your respective e-mail addresses. I will send over the items you won in the next few days.

Again, thanks!

NeckRomancer

[Immortal_Slayer]

ah yay finally...My baraners!! Thanks for the auction NeckRomancer

My email is immortal_slayer@hotmail.com


-Slayer

[javcek]

email is jce116 (at) gmail (dot) com.

Thanks for the auction!

[Taburet]

munch@gorodok.net

TFFT.

[chicagofan51]

Email is jason051@yahoo.com

[San]

teh e-mail: sanppa (at) gmail.com

[Firvagor]

I actually won something, YAY!! :D

shocktroop389@hotmail.com

Thanks a lot!!

[NeckRomancer]

Thanks guys!

Mules sent out to everyone (WHEW!) except for Vis, who hasn't posted his email yet.

Please check your mules and post here if they're OK or if there are problems.

Please send the pgems to the e-mail address that sent you the item mule.

Thanks again!

NeckRomancer

[Taburet]

Visionarie's email is: ertai@ngs.ru

P.S. I have a problems with my home comp, so it can take 2-3 days for me to send you the gems. Is it ok?

EDIT: got you email, thank you.

[Visionaire]

Visionarie's email is: ertai@ngs.ru

P.S. I have a problems with my home comp, so it can take 2-3 days for me to send you the gems. Is it ok?

EDIT: got you email, thank you.

Yep, exactly ertai(at)ngs.ru. Sorry for long absence, waiting for mule!

Visionaire

[Firvagor]

Got the mule fine. I've sent the pgems.

Thanks again!

[San]

Mule recieved and replied

[javcek]

Mule replied, thanks!

[chicagofan51]

Demon Limb received in good order, gems have been sent.

Thanks for the deal.

[NeckRomancer]

Immortal_Slayer, San, Firvagor, Javcek and Chicagofan51: Got your mules. Thanks!

Visionaire: war travs mule sent.

Taburet: no prob on the delay. send the pgems when you can. :)

[Taburet]

Sent the stash. Thanks for the trade.

[NeckRomancer]

Sent the stash. Thanks for the trade.

Got it! Thanks!

Waiting on Visionaire to respond so I can close the thread.

[Visionaire]

Got it! Thanks!

Waiting on Visionaire to respond so I can close the thread.

Yep, replied. Sorry for this delay. :(

Please, tell me if it is ok.

Visionaire