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#1St.Jean
16-07-2005, 20:59
can some one gimme some suggestions should i dump 100 points into str to use spirit monarch or is their something else? i'm going mostly pvm , baal runs meph, andy mf mostly and cows if u could help id appreciate it

Epsilon Eyez
16-07-2005, 21:10
For MFing, you don't really need a Spirit, since you don't really need the extra +skills, though the resists and faster cast rate is nice.

If you need some MF, you can use Splendor runeword Eth + Lum (+1 skill, 20% FCR, 20% MF) or Rhyme runeword Shael + Eth (Cannot be Frozen, All Resistances +25, 25% MF).

Splendor is better damagewise, only 1 skill and 15% FCR off a perfect Spirit, while Rhyme has resists and Cannot be Frozen. The bonuses for the runewords are lower than Spirit but probably better considering you don't need as much strength to equip it (assuming you use a Heater to socket the runewords in, 77 STR req, most MF sorcs should have about 95 with equips to wear Skullders or War Travs).

Superhal
16-07-2005, 22:22
i think it's well worth it. i'm still trying to get a 35% fcr one though, as that would give me a perf 105% with eschutas and vipermagi.

you can always use a diff set on the switch.

the resists, vit, mana, skills and fcr on spirit is just unreal. all my chars have 156 str now.

StewieGriff_XLT
17-07-2005, 03:04
can some one gimme some suggestions should i dump 100 points into str to use spirit monarch or is their something else? i'm going mostly pvm , baal runs meph, andy mf mostly and cows if u could help id appreciate it

I say go for it! I think that it is totally worth it. Stats like that don't come by very often on shields, so I think that it is a no brainer. I'm sure a few +str charms or maybe a fcr ring w/ str or even an ammy w/ +str/skills can help your cause. I think that the FCR is good enough, but with all of those other useful stats, I wouldn't pass that up :uhhuh:

Hope my .02 helped.

Have fun!
CJ :clap:

#1St.Jean
17-07-2005, 06:54
thx alot i guess ill equip, im orb/lightning so i need the skills cuz 2 trees makes ure dmg a little low but i think 9k lightning and 460 orb aint bad, lol

can some one explain how i can equip with high str items put on shield then take items off ive never completely figured this out if u can explain/make me less dumb id appreciate it

k/t
17-07-2005, 10:17
You can use +strength items (like IK belt and gloves, for a massive 45 Strength bonus) to help you equip Spirit, but if you take those items off afterwards and your strength goes below 156, Spirit will turn red and you won't get any bonuses from it. What you're thinking of only works for items which require a lot of strength but also give a strength bonus, and which, if equipped, become self-sustaining. Herald Of Zakarum, for example. It requires 89 strength, and gives 20 as a bonus. Let's say you had 69 strength, then equipped Duriel's Shell, which gives 15 and you had an ammy with another 5. You'd now have 89 and you'd be able to put on Herald. Then you could take away the Duriel's Shell and the ammy and you'd still be able to use Herald, because it gives you 20 strength, and you'd have 89. However, if you take off the Duriel's Shell or the ammy and then you die, you won't be able to equip the Herald again when you retrieve your body (since you won't have 89 strength anymore), and that could lead to popping.

If you're going to rely on strength bonuses to equip high-requirement items, try to make sure you'll keep wearing the items that give you the bonuses or you could have unpleasant surprises.

What you can do, however, is use items with a strength bonus like so:

Item A: 40 str req, 15 str bonus
Item B: 55 str req, 20 str bonus
Item C: 75 str req, 10 str bonus
Item D: 85 str req

You only have 40 strength. Put on Item A, and your strength will increase to 55, so you can put on item B and now you'll have 75 strength, so you can put on item C, then finally D. If you die and you pick up your corpse, all your items will automatically re-equip in that order, and you'll still be wearing all of them.

Be careful whenever you rely on one item to equip another, in case you forget about it and take it off.

#1St.Jean
17-07-2005, 11:09
k i think ima just dump the points in seems easier lol

chubbypuppy
17-07-2005, 19:57
Kinda of OT, but can you tell me your skills and eq to get 9K lightning and 460 orb plz?

#1St.Jean
17-07-2005, 22:49
actually its like 11k light, i based my sorcs build on my merc who uses infinity
here it goes
Cold:
1 pre req
20 Frozen Orb
1Mastery

Light:
5 CB
5Nova
20 Lightning
20 Chain
20 Lit Mastery
pre req, u can finish this at like 88-89 i think, if u go higher u can pump cb nova or cm. i also will have +12 skills i used chippydips skill calculator on google try it if u want it works out