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yelopen
16-07-2005, 02:20
So, currently my lite sorc has:

Shako w/ptopaz
Tal Armour w/ptopaz
Tal Ammy
Oculus
Chance Guards (perfect)
War Travelers (41)
Tal Belt (14)
2 SOJ's
Mosers w/2 pdiamonds
1 light gc

and it does only 14k
most other ppl i meet say they can do like 30k or whatever
I was thinking, if I traded for a 3/17 or so light eschuta's and wore a 14% light ormus, how much more dmg would i do? and would i still be able to find good items without the 112 mf from my tal armour?

100% gull dagger+20% splendor+74%shako w/ptopaz+40% chance guards+41%war travelers+14%tal belt+5%sc+6%sc+2%lc+12%gc = 314%mf

Please help! :confused:

Gorny
16-07-2005, 04:30
*moves thread to sorc forum*

k/t
17-07-2005, 01:42
First of all, take a minute to reflect on this, and let me know if you are an MF char or not.

Then read on:

A dedicated MF char will never do as much damage as a non-MF char, for reasons I leave to you to discover.

You can find "good items" with 0% MF, just not as frequently as with more.

If you can kill easily now, why change your gear?

yelopen
17-07-2005, 07:01
I guess I am an mf character, but when my blizzard sorc becomes high enough level, I won't have to use this one anymore.

And the point is, I cannot kill very fast, on Mephy at least. Repeatedly shooting lightning at him will only reduce his life by tiny tiny fractions. If I were to stand there and lightning away, without him disturbing me in anyway, it would take a couple minutes. But because he's constantly hitting me with his little coldish ball thingy I have to teleport away alot.

What I'm worried about is my killing speed. I see my friends mfing twice as fast as I do, finishing about 2 runs while I only get through one. I was just wondering if it IS indeed better to pick DMG or MF.

LiquidIce
17-07-2005, 07:11
for yyour case i would kill some mf for dmg.

yelopen
17-07-2005, 07:23
the problem is, how much? Removing my tal armour is too big of a jump i think.

lonnie913
17-07-2005, 08:26
what are your resists at? putting two lightning facets instead of pdiamonds in your mosers would help quite a bit. they would only need -5% enemy resist; the +5% dmg wouldnt matter b/c of mastery. it would also help to put one in your oculus (non perfect facets are not too expensive). infinity runeword works wonders, but thats pretty expensive. but the truth is, blizzard sorceresses will always kill mephisto faster (unless you have infinity).

k/t
17-07-2005, 09:32
Static him first, of course. If you're doing the moat trick correctly, he won't shoot you. Lonnie is right, use a Meteor or Blizzard sorc for this. Aren't Lightning sorcs more for crowds? I've never made one, so I have no clue, but I don't think many people MF bosses with one.

Superhal
17-07-2005, 13:36
quite simply, lightning is not optimal for meph runs. you can do them a lot faster with meteor or blizz and using the moat trick.

Liliel
17-07-2005, 15:36
3 part Tal's and a Gull switch gives you enough MF all on its own. If you've got 200%MF already, do NOT sacrifice significant amounts of kill speed for more MF. It's not worth it.

First of all, I don't think Lightning sorcs are meant to run Mephisto. But if you insist... You say you're doing 14k max damage, right? So an average of 7k? Well, the problem is Mephisto has 75% lightning resist. That reduces your average damage to about 1.7k, which would take quite a while to kill Mephisto.

I suggest you switch...
Chance Guards => Magefist or Trang's Claws
Shako => -20 Griffon's Eye with -5 lit facet
OR (if Griff's unattainable) Shako socket => Um rune or -5 lit facet
Tal armour socket => Um rune or -5 lit facet
War Travs => Nat's Boots or rare boots with resists
Occy => +3 Eschuta's with -5 lit facet, or Crescent Moon sword
And get more Sparking skillers.

yelopen
17-07-2005, 20:54
To answer your guy's questions:

I have about 55 resist all in hell right now with 75 fire
I also forgot to mention, lol, that I'm nonladder, so infinity and griffon's cannot be attained until ladder reset. But, since I have a ladder account, I can try to get these items.

"I suggest you switch...
Chance Guards => Magefist or Trang's Claws
Shako => -20 Griffon's Eye with -5 lit facet
OR (if Griff's unattainable) Shako socket => Um rune or -5 lit facet
Tal armour socket => Um rune or -5 lit facet
War Travs => Nat's Boots or rare boots with resists
Occy => +3 Eschuta's with -5 lit facet, or Crescent Moon sword
And get more Sparking skillers."

This could work, but I would need lots of hel's to unsocket my items. And I currently have an um rune, should I immediately stick it in my tal armour or shako, or should i wait? And according to lillel, with his equipment, I would have around 260+ mf.

Also, how much would a -5/3 facet be?
Perf light eschutas?

Thx for the big help guys, I'll consider "remodeling" my sorc.

yelopen
19-07-2005, 21:12
Sorry for the double post but...since I just got quite a bit richer on ladder I'm considering this as my equipment


Griffons w/ Um? Maybe? (I think I can get a very low one)
Perf Light Eschutas w/ 5/5 lite facet
Mosers Shield w/ 2 pdiamonds
Tal Armor w/ ptopaz
Magefist/Trang Glove
War Travs
2 SOJ's
Tal Belt
Tal Ammy
10 light gcs (just got 5 for free on ladder, have 1 on nL, trading for 2 more on nL)

Merc:
Infinity
Not sure about the armor and helm tho...

Whaddya think?
I would have: 100% gull+41% travs+25% rhyme+40% perf gheeds+65% from 3 tal items+112% tal armor w/ptopaz+14% tal belt+11% from 2 mf scs

Totaling=408

Please respond to my remodel. Thx :thumbsup:
But in order for this to work I have to wait until ladder resets :( :thumbsup:

k/t
21-07-2005, 09:17
How did you get those free GCs? Do they all look exactly alike?

yelopen
22-07-2005, 20:00
Nope.
My friend quit a couple days ago and he had a godly light sorc and gave some to me 4 free :thumbsup:

If you don't believe me, you can come take a look at them :cool:

yelopen
22-07-2005, 20:01
Oops, I posted the same thing twice
Sorry mods :(