GohantheMystic's Guide to the Crusaders ((INPUT REQUESTED!!!))

[gohanthemystic]

Alright... i'm back at it again... trying to make another guide... hopefully this one will be better. But as always i like to start out my guide threads with something allittle different... questions...

We already know a crusader will max might, charge, and vigor so that leaves only a few questions.

1. What aura to use actively? If there are a bunch of people who vote for two or three different aura's i could always do like my last guide and divide it into sections...:lol:
2. Should we go one-handed weapon? Or two handed weapon?
3. How is damage for charge calculated?
and finally 4. Other skills to have points in?

Thanks for any input or help anyone could offer lol, especially in helping me level on USEast :uhhuh:

-Gohan
*BalmungAzureSky

[Tastychiken_europe]

Alright... i'm back at it again... trying to make another guide... hopefully this one will be better. But as always i like to start out my guide threads with something allittle different... questions...

We already know a crusader will max might, charge, and vigor so that leaves only a few questions.

1. What aura to use actively? If there are a bunch of people who vote for two or three different aura's i could always do like my last guide and divide it into sections...
2. Should we go one-handed weapon? Or two handed weapon?
3. How is damage for charge calculated?
and finally 4. Other skills to have points in?

Thanks for any input or help anyone could offer lol, especially in helping me level on USEast

-Gohan
*BalmungAzureSky


im making a frost crusader :) that didnt help though.
1. i vote fanaticism, or holy freeze but thats my part! :lol: *joke*
2. i would go 1handed gives u more survivability (in form of block) and it looks cool and i think pallas are almost all about shields.
3. XXX not knowing zone XXX
4. maybe holy shield? few altealst or 5 zeal but that u get from eq, i dunno actually


hope i helped more then to disturb u. :cheesy:

[[exile]]

1) Fanaticism. It gives the highest damage boost of all auras, and a nice AR bonus as well.

2) I would go with one-handed. If you're writing a guide maybe both types should be explored though.

3) I don't know how it actually all works, but try this site: http://diablo2.ingame.de/tips/calcs/dmgcalc/dmgcalc.php?patch=110&lang=eng

4) Definitely at least 1-5 points in Holy Shield, it will at the least lower the Dex you need for max block. Assuming you use a shield, though.

[gohanthemystic]

Thanks for the site exile and your input.... ditto for tasty... and i think i'll do one fanat and one of each of the holy auras... new question tho
To Smite .... or not to smite?

[[exile]]

I would say yes for Smite. It will be a better backup skill than Zeal because you won't have to worry about AR. It'll also still be very effective, even with just a few points, since you'll have maxed Fanaticism and possibly Holy Shield.

This is where a one-hander with Grief would shine :clap:

I don't know if you would consider it a pure Crusader anymore though.

[gohanthemystic]

Okay... this is were history and rp make builds different... Crusaders historically were warriors of the church, they tended to carry long swords, and what diablo 2 would call a kite shield/monarch. So it only makes since that when engaged in battle, they would charge towards their enemy and make full use of what they have, including nailing the crap out of someone with their shield :lol:

Man... i love... my history... sorry... gotta have a story behind my characters :)

[gohanthemystic]

Oh yeah exile... wanna help finance my build? lol... jk... although if you play on east maybe you could help me out with some leveling later... lol

[BlasphemousMusic]

I just built my first crusader not too long ago and finally got him to a decent level. I am doing 33k listed dmg going 2 handed at the moment. A shield is important but from what I have found with mine is that 1 hit kills are the majority of what I win. I have not really needed to block a lot considering I charge 1-2 times and they can't hit me.

2 handed you will do much more dmg, I mean much more, so I'd suggest people look into that. Plus there shouldn't really be anyone you go toe to toe with in a melee hack and slash type duel so block isn't so important with a charger (imo).

[[exile]]

Hah, I have trouble financing my own builds, let alone other people's :lol:

Sure, look me up at *exi1e through *exi5e, if you ever need a rush let me know. I'm not online very often but if I am there shouldn't be a problem.

[gohanthemystic]

Okay, the fanatic crusader has begun his quest! His name is SephirothOWA on ladder USEast, if anyone else is interested in starting up a new character to quest with him, that'd be great, cuz i'm going to try to play thru norm and nm all the way thru.. hell... is a different story...

-Gohan
*BalmungAzureSky

[LorveN]

just started with a 2-hand charger myself, planning to use some big weapon to become a one-hit-wonder, just for fun. Can report how it works when things start to become clear ;)
2-handers are more stylish, too many lame shield-users out there!! :lol:

[gohanthemystic]

Alright, awesome, let me know how you do with it... maybe you can help me out some with the guide... cuz it seems that there isn't an updated PvM Crusader guide...lol.. although... i know why... *mutters* stupid charge bug...

-gohan

[BlasphemousMusic]

just started with a 2-hand charger myself, planning to use some big weapon to become a one-hit-wonder, just for fun. Can report how it works when things start to become clear ;)
2-handers are more stylish, too many lame shield-users out there!! :lol:

Like I said I am one of those 2 handers and I find it to be better. Shields and blocking are for those who want to go toe to toe with other melee fighters or who can't take them with one hit.

Honestly I am not trying to brag, but to give useful input, I kill 95% of every duel with 1 hit. There are some really good players who can take 2-3 hits or kill me before I hit them, but charge should be a 1-2 hit skill. Pure power and dmg which only a 2 handed wep could do. Use botd t-maul and it really does work!

[tinncann25]

hey if ur not down with this in 2 weeks i might be able to give u greif zerker to test out

maybe i can look for some other gear look me up after the 20th

bob_luo4
monkeydevourer

[batuchka]

Hi! I like the idea of a big bad 2-hander :P Anyone tried ethereal 'Death' runeword in Decapitator/Colo Sword? With highlord's +gores you'd get 85% chance 2x dmg @ lvl 80 hehe

[gohanthemystic]

hey if ur not down with this in 2 weeks i might be able to give u greif zerker to test out

maybe i can look for some other gear look me up after the 20th

bob_luo4
monkeydevourer

I'm pretty sure it'll take me atleast that long to do it.... right now i'm just in act2 norm, and i'm trying to take it at a normal pace. what good is a build if it can't solo ya know :)

-Gohan
*BalmungAzureSky

[Tastychiken_europe]

just started with a 2-hand charger myself, planning to use some big weapon to become a one-hit-wonder, just for fun. Can report how it works when things start to become clear ;)
2-handers are more stylish, too many lame shield-users out there!! :lol:

Like I said I am one of those 2 handers and I find it to be better. Shields and blocking are for those who want to go toe to toe with other melee fighters or who can't take them with one hit.


my zealot is one of those "lame" shield user's and he goes toe to toe with all meele builds even if he will lose (smiters) and i do take ppl in one hit very often in duels (not paladins barb and druids though)

dont rant shields just beacuse u have a problem with 'em every1 should ask them self the right question; "Too Use A Shield Or Not? Thats The Question".

my friend has a frost crusader at lvl 80 now, wich doesnt stand a chance agaisnt high def and blockers. And there are so called "smart" ppl that will actually walk into combat isnt that just sick? :eek:

[lCE]

Hmm, the death decap is a nice idea :), Imo the perfect 2 hand charger weapon.

[BlasphemousMusic]

my zealot is one of those "lame" shield user's and he goes toe to toe with all meele builds even if he will lose (smiters) and i do take ppl in one hit very often in duels (not paladins barb and druids though)

dont rant shields just beacuse u have a problem with 'em every1 should ask them self the right question; "Too Use A Shield Or Not? Thats The Question".

my friend has a frost crusader at lvl 80 now, wich doesnt stand a chance agaisnt high def and blockers. And there are so called "smart" ppl that will actually walk into combat isnt that just sick? :eek:



I am talking from my own experience, and trying to give people my side of the answer for to use a shield or not. Like I said my opinion is that a pure pvp charger should use charge as main and secondary skill. Work on getting 1-2 hit deaths with charge and no reason to stop and get into a hack and slash fest because you'll most likely lose to anyone who can do that. My charger is for charging and pure 1 hit dmg, as it is also my opinion, so there is no need for a shield.

[HeavAngel]

gohanthemystic,
I'm going to unsticky this now. If you feel it should stay sticky a bit longer. LMK.
Thanks

[gohanthemystic]

Slightly OT: There is gonna be a delay on the guide. My reserve unit might possibly get called into active duty so i've got drill camps all this coming week. Those of you who have a religion.. just do whatever you do, and hope that we dont' get deployed. I just got back from being rephysicaled at the meps office at Ft. Jackson today.....:/

[HeavAngel]

Slightly OT: There is gonna be a delay on the guide. My reserve unit might possibly get called into active duty so i've got drill camps all this coming week. Those of you who have a religion.. just do whatever you do, and hope that we dont' get deployed. I just got back from being rephysicaled at the meps office at Ft. Jackson today.....:/
You and your troops will be in my family's prayers. :thumbsup:
If you have any time *meaning family first* and access to a computer please let us here know how you and the troops are doing.
God Bless,
Ångel

[gohanthemystic]

So far none of us are really worried. The ones of us that haven't done basic yet (AKA me) Ship to lackland AFB tomorrow. After basic we'll kind of be learning our jobs on the go. :/ But, don't worry too much about me, i'm doing Satelite and Broadband Comm. *hugs angel* well, i'll give ya'll an update in about. 8 weeks or AMEC.

~gohan

[sizgar]

if u wanna be crusader be a mad one get a 2hand weapon + nice DS and go on

u r the winner in most cases only if behind ur opponent is open field to let him be knockbacked otherwise if he is not knockbacked he is no longer in stun effect and u r no longer the winner

also a shield using charge is not much usefull ur block ability is drasticly dropped down when charging so only def matters


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