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Taishaku
30-06-2005, 23:28
How much damage does everyone else's Bonemancer do?
My Spirit deals: 4250-4640 dmg with all buffs. I have no GCharms.
My FCR is currently 95%.
I use a Wizard Spike.
Is this of poor, average, or exceptional quality for a PvP Bonemancer?
Pherdnut
30-06-2005, 23:32
Edit: NM. I was thinking of Spear. Not sure on that one since I rarely use it. My spear usually does more damage than Spirit with White.
vagrantrogue
01-07-2005, 00:40
Edit: NM. I was thinking of Spear. Not sure on that one since I rarely use it. My spear usually does more damage than Spirit with White.
what kind of wand did you use to make white?
this is kinda a "poor" bonemancer build. I think u need to get the gc
The average bonemancer dish out 5-6k dmg.
Myrakh-2
01-07-2005, 01:19
3100-3323 spirit atm, but there's still skillpoints to dump into Teeth...
My spear is doing 3337-3516.
So I'd say 4000+ is pretty good.
I'm currently at 70% FCR, but I have Arachnid Mesh in stash... can't use it yet. I'm now at lvl 70 --- at which point the anni kicked in, so I got the str bonus from it to get to 118 str so I could equip Marrowwalks.
I'm still hanging around in nightmare, since I want to level up my merc a bit more...
Pherdnut
01-07-2005, 01:36
+3 bonespear of course. With skillers, Spirit should catch up, but I only have one of those and think I want to trade it. Anyway, that's not bad for PvM, but you won't be the most feared bonemancer of the realms in PvP.
3100-3323 spirit atm, but there's still skillpoints to dump into Teeth...
My spear is doing 3337-3516.
So I'd say 4000+ is pretty good.
I'm currently at 70% FCR, but I have Arachnid Mesh in stash... can't use it yet. I'm now at lvl 70 --- at which point the anni kicked in, so I got the str bonus from it to get to 118 str so I could equip Marrowwalks.
I'm still hanging around in nightmare, since I want to level up my merc a bit more...
pnb gc is pretty common due to the mass of duping. I've seen almost every necro can dish out 5k with marrow. (lvl80-90) A good one can dish out 6-7k.
And of course, they are fully syngerized.
4k is not bad, but it's not the average.
Taishaku
01-07-2005, 01:54
Oh... that's bad, I'm lvl 80 and exploiting Marrowwalks...
Better swap over my HotO...
I have no GCs, is that where the damage comes from?
Oh... that's bad, I'm lvl 80 and exploiting Marrowwalks...
Better swap over my HotO...
I have no GCs, is that where the damage comes from?
yes.
U mess up on the marrowwalk bug? do u put any pt in bone prison?
Taishaku
01-07-2005, 03:07
I'm not an idiot.
Of course I know how the bug works, the charges act as the skill itself and provide synnergies.
I'll compile my build later. Post it here. Maybe you can give me pointers.
Taishaku
01-07-2005, 19:37
I leave out redundant stuff.
20 Teeth + 13 = 33
20 BSpear + 13 = 33
20 BSpirit + 13 = 33
20 BWall + 13 = 33
0 BPrison + 33 = 33
HotO (+3 All, +40 FCR)
Homunculus (PDiamond)(+2 All, +2 Curses)
CTA (+1 All, Buffs)
Homunculus (+2 All, +2 Curses)
Harlequin Crest Shako (+2 All)
Mage Plate Enigma (+2 All)
Trang-Oul's Claws (+2 Curses, +20 FCR)
Tal Rasha's Fine-Spun Cloth (Looking for Arach Mesh)
Marrowwalks
2x BK's Wedding Band (Looking for SoJs)(+2 All)
Rare Ammy (+2 B&P, +10 FCR)
dogs best friend
01-07-2005, 21:12
How do so many people have 10x pnb gcs? I can't get my hands on a single one I try to buy them for a Soj but now they are worth 2 ROFL stupidist thing i've ever heard. So I try to trade my gcs for 2sojs but they're worth 1 soj not 2 its so *** everyone who is rich must hack..
How do so many people have 10x pnb gcs? I can't get my hands on a single one I try to buy them for a Soj but now they are worth 2 ROFL stupidist thing i've ever heard. So I try to trade my gcs for 2sojs but they're worth 1 soj not 2 its so *** everyone who is rich must hack..
people dont hack, is because of mass duping of runes and sojs. (from some hackers) If there arent many sojs or runes then of course they worth a lot. U see runes or sojs pretty common nowaday, thats why their price drop.
Think about the money inflation and currency.
Taishaku
02-07-2005, 04:22
people dont hack, is because of mass duping of runes and sojs. (from some hackers) If there arent many sojs or runes then of course they worth a lot. U see runes or sojs pretty common nowaday, thats why their price drop.
Think about the money inflation and currency.
It's inflation.
You see, instant v1.10, Necro became viable. We are now the ugly, twiggy, teleporting pricks with their nasty Magical guided arrows; except Bowazons suck now (No offense to the Bowazons, but you guys are expensive to equip and it's risky to find legit Windforces these days), but I'm referring to pre-1.08 when the XZon (Hybridzon) ruled along with the WWBarb and possibly Classic-OrbStorm Sorcs.
So everyone, sick and tired of Zonz, Sorcs, and Barbs, turned to Pally, Druid, Necro, and Sins. That is why all the stuff that the post-1.08 costs more.
We also see a shift in economy after 1.08; before, SoJs were the currency: OCCULUS! 2 SOJS! or VAMP GAZE! 2 SOJS!, now, they are rarest runes. The introduction of the new, semi-rigged rune words, made a huge change. Now you see RUSH FOR FORGE instead of RUSH FOR SOJ.
Taishaku
05-07-2005, 23:06
So... anymore input on damage? Any ways to improve my stuff other than with GCs?
RetroStar
06-07-2005, 04:48
I have 10 gcs. :) My spirit dmg closes on around 6k.
So... anymore input on damage? Any ways to improve my stuff other than with GCs?
With +13 to nec your Bspirit should have 4.1k dmg
+10 more skillers would give you 5.5k dmg
If you replace Hoto with wizz spike (and remove +3skills from calculation)
your BSpirit dmg would be around 5.2k :)
The only improvement I can think of is:
+3PnB/20fcr circ 2 os
+3 PnB/30str Amu
Good "White" wand, or Boneshade with +2nec/+2Bspirit/+3Bspear
I would replace Hoto just for the Mana and res from Wizzy.
And Nec looks evil with wizzy too :D
Cheers.
The only improvement I can think of is:
+3PnB/20fcr circ 2 os
+3 PnB/30str Amu
Good "White" wand, or Boneshade with +2nec/+2Bspirit/+3Bspear
Same here. Just try to get all the +skills you can
there are plenty of 3 to a tree skill ammys out there :D
The only improvement I can think of is:
+3PnB/20fcr circ 2 os
+3 PnB/30str Amu
Good "White" wand, or Boneshade with +2nec/+2Bspirit/+3Bspear
Same here. Just try to get all the +skills you can
there are plenty of 3 to a tree skill ammys out there :D
and of course get gcs
The only improvement I can think of is:
+3PnB/20fcr circ 2 os
+3 PnB/30str Amu
Good "White" wand, or Boneshade with +2nec/+2Bspirit/+3Bspear
Same here. Just try to get all the +skills you can
there are plenty of 3 to a tree skill ammys out there :D
and of course get gcs
My necro is lvl 12 and he does like 9 teeth dmg =( how u guys get so much? I guess its cuz u be haxckers lol ima do like 20 dmg at lvl 80 i know it =(.
Taishaku
07-07-2005, 07:53
Synnergies. This is what I did: Get as much Teeth as you can first (1 Armor, Clay Golem with 1 in Golem Mastery and Summon Resist if you want a trusty sidekick), then max Spear, then max Spirit, then Wall (DON'T USE A SINGLE POINT ON BONEPRISON!). Exploit Marrowwalk bug. Then finish up by maxing Teeth.
Wow! My bonemancer is level 80 and my spear is level 43 and does a little over 4000 and I have 8 PnB gcs. How in the hell do you guys get your damage so high?! I MUST KNOW! I heard in v1.11, the marrowalk glitch is gone. And that one guy that said he does 4k without any PnB gcs sounds kinda fishy. What do you use, Taikashu?
Soo does the Marrow walk Bug still work on 1.11B?
(I was told by a firend it doesn't?)
It was fixed finally for 1.11 so it's not present anymore.
hmmmm what was that marrowalk bug? I haven`t heard of it so far (didn`t play diablo for some time).
in 1.10 items adding charges of skills actually synergized your skills. So when putting on Marrowwalks and not having any points in bone prison you ended up like having lvl 33 bone prison that was synergizing your bone spells. The same was used for rabies druids for example with the carrion wind ring.
natural disastr
15-01-2006, 03:44
5k bone spirit
A little note here to keep in mind. If you want to compare pure dmg, that's fine, but I would rather keep myself alive as best I can. In PvM the monsters have quite a few hit points, so even a thousand more dmg would yield a relatively small change in the overall dmg in 8 players mode. As for PvP, the 1/6th penalty also changes things quite a bit. A 6k spirit would yield a total of 1k dmg, while a 5k spirit would be 833. Not much of a difference. When fighting BvC's with over 6k HP, the 6k spirit necro would need 7 hits to topple the opponent, while the 5k dmg necro would need 8 (just one more) but have a lot more variety of equipments to use.
So generally it's a difference of 1 spirit per duel, which IMO is a lot easier to compensate than the lack of say, resistances, fcr, fhr, HP, etc.
AnimeCraze
15-01-2006, 14:09
so even a thousand more dmg would yield a relatively small change in the overall dmg in 8 players mode.I don't quite agree with that one. If you are using a 4k spirit and someone else is using a 5k, given that all else is equal, your 4k spirit is going to do 20% less damage than the 5k. This translates to is ~20% run speed. Of course, this is given all else is equal. FCR and safety factors into this rather big.
That was pretty much my point to begin with. The larger the dmg, the more fragile you will be, s oa decent balance is the key. I'd rather be capable of standing still and spamming spirits/spears for 5k dmg rather than having to run and dodge every other attack while occasionally firing off a 6k spirit.
natural disastr
15-01-2006, 22:27
i personally like my balance.
125%fcr
86%fhr
max all res
5k bone spirit
teleport
my only weakness->8%dr
3k health
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