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Foh/auradin!
Heres what iwas thinking, foh for things that are afar and can not be hit by charge due to high defense.Charge and auras for a get away and charging at sorceress' and other chars that have low defense.
Skill placement, this is what i was thinking of.
20 foh
15 conviction
20 holy shock
1 into charge and hs and other prequests
20 pnts salvation
20 points resist fire
109 skills total
Gear *need help here**
This is my main choice here, should i use weapon switch for auras and keep dragon armor on at all times, or should i go with one weapon for both charge and foh? Or should i put the auragear in stash and play as an foher until some1 attempts to absorb then go and get it?
Gear setup
Coa helm(all stats i need resist fhr, skills dr) or should i go with somthing else?
Dragon armor if going with plan a(auradn gear on at all times) or coh if plan b
25/25 scepter or hoto(hoto maybe is better because it gives resists)
Hoz skills resists
Bloodfists
1 bk/1 soj is best option i think.
30 maras or a godly rare
Arachnids mesh or dungos?
Weapon switch if plan a: Dragon sheild with 40+resist all/Hoj
Rare fhr resist boots.
emits roughly 6-7k foh dmg and average auradin dmg, only diferance is low ar, and i only plan chargining against low defense casters. For everything else foh and run around and be *** until they die.
Inventory
10 pal combat gcs
anni
Resist fhr and life scs
I am almost afraid to post it do to the gayness of this build if it actual does work. The only real true thing that i would always lose to is wind druids. Imo everything else is very easily beatable. HEres a rough list on the builds and why and how i think i could beat them.
Amazons
Charged strike: Run around and get a cheap foh once in a while they cant keep up with me.
Bowazons: CHARGE! dead.
Assasins
Trappers: make them run out of traps then foh or charge in for the kill. If there skilled make them try and catch u in traps and click foh and there dead.
WW: Easy eather foh or run around they have no chance imo.
gota go tonight this is it for now
Speederländer
24-06-2005, 08:18
That's not really new.
That's not really new.
i havent seen a guide or nothin so it is to me.
I dont have this char atm just wondering if it would work.
I can duel u with my bvc though :P
east ladder sc
Speederländer
25-06-2005, 01:22
i havent seen a guide or nothin so it is to me.
I dont have this char atm just wondering if it would work.
I can duel u with my bvc though :P
east ladder sc
I'm not saying I made one. I'm saying I see them in dueling games and fight them in dueling games.
can i have a bit of info on them then such as dueling strats if my gear setup is similar ect.
Speederländer
25-06-2005, 05:58
can i have a bit of info on them then such as dueling strats if my gear setup is similar ect.
They use charge to move. They use aura, FoH and conviction to hurt you w/o ever getting too close.
It's a really annoying build to fight. Charge is basically non-targetable unless you have a lot of luck. Auras mean you just charge in a circle and do nothing. FoH takes care of the people with a simple T'gods.
The primary skill needed on your part is to run away. So I can't recommend it.
IMCanadian
25-06-2005, 23:36
Read my guide under pally forum. It's called the Vanquisher, but im changing the name of the build. It's on the first page, i think thats what your thinking of.
a new bm public build would be titan barb with lifetap. :lol:
Speederländer
26-06-2005, 00:47
a new bm public build would be titan barb with lifetap. :lol:
Why would that be BM? Half the pallys out there lifetap like mad. It's pretty much accepted practice.
Why would that be BM? Half the pallys out there lifetap like mad. It's pretty much accepted practice.
if any paladin needs lifetap to win, or uses it as a constant in their gear, they're pretty sorry.
add in the fact that 90%+ of the ones that do use lifetap also use astreons with the slow...sad seeing what paladins are coming to in pub games.
Why would that be BM? Half the pallys out there lifetap like mad. It's pretty much accepted practice.
ww barb with lifetap is much stronger than zealot or smiter with lifetap.
Not really seeing that WW dosen't trigger lifetap or any other to cast skills. You would have to use Conc or other skill to trigger it then use WW. AFAIK.
If I am wrong please explain.
Not really seeing that WW dosen't trigger lifetap or any other to cast skills. You would have to use Conc or other skill to trigger it then use WW. AFAIK.
If I am wrong please explain.
yes, it doesnt trigger lifetap. that's why im saying get a wand with lifetap or something. :D
True Lifetap and wands were even mean in 09 with smite, ww and other skills. Then you take into fact that alot used ITHS which made it insane. But really the botds of 1.10 are the iths of 09. Just my 2 cents.
MonsterSlayer
27-06-2005, 21:11
Iths? :)
True Lifetap and wands were even mean in 09 with smite, ww and other skills. Then you take into fact that alot used ITHS which made it insane. But really the botds of 1.10 are the iths of 09. Just my 2 cents.
what's the ith for? explain plz.
what's the ith for? explain plz.
in 109 iths were overpowered weapons made by hackers who would unsocket them and insert other runes while they kept the original stats from the 1st socketing so they would end up with double sets of different stats. Their stats actually resembled botds, maybe slightly better. They were massively duped. The Rust storm wiped them out, thank god.
in 109 iths were overpowered weapons made by hackers who would unsocket them and insert other runes while they kept the original stats from the 1st socketing so they would end up with double sets of different stats. Their stats actually resembled botds, maybe slightly better. They were massively duped. The Rust storm wiped them out, thank god.
o, u mean "stupid ith" sword. That is hacker items and shouldnt be considered.
Im talking about 1.10.
To give you an idea, a barb could end up with 20 k ww damage between
hacked charms and ith sword. lol
To give you an idea, a barb could end up with 20 k ww damage between
hacked charms and ith sword. lol
i know, the hexes and all those stuffs...
NightShade
28-06-2005, 01:54
*puts on dual light sabers*
lolwhat?
Speederländer
28-06-2005, 04:30
if any paladin needs lifetap to win, or uses it as a constant in their gear, they're pretty sorry.
add in the fact that 90%+ of the ones that do use lifetap also use astreons with the slow...sad seeing what paladins are coming to in pub games.
What planet have you been living on? Every pally on ladder with a physical attack has tap either on exile or dracs.
Dirty Scorpion
28-06-2005, 12:07
maybe switch helm and shield for dreams and keep zaka just in case in stash
es sorc holding insight says what?
Weltkriegpally
28-06-2005, 13:06
What planet have you been living on? Every pally on ladder with a physical attack has tap either on exile or dracs.
liar! I don't use it on my zealot, and I have this bad habit of whiping out those that do. only one has given me any trouble and he is 9 levels my senior, lol.
--welt
Dirty Scorpion
28-06-2005, 19:44
es sorc holding insight says what?
same what ele dru
Speederländer
28-06-2005, 19:55
liar!
No, I'm not lying you twit. If you are going to take my comment literally that every single last pally down to the level 1's uses tap, I urge you to get some perspective, because you seem to be in short supply. My comment is a general one. If 98% of the regular ladder smiters, for example, use tap, then, for the sake of discussions here, it's every stinking ladder pally.
I don't use it on my zealot, and I have this bad habit of whiping out those that do. only one has given me any trouble and he is 9 levels my senior, lol.
Other than people would couldn't AFFORD to use it, I cannot rememeber the last time I ever dueled a pally with smite or zeal as a primary attack (or very often a secondary attack) that didn't use lifetap in some fashion (not including some shockadins, etc.). Now, while you may have some personal issue with lifetap, 99.9% of the pallys out there do NOT. Don't even try to tell me it's "BM" unless you can provide a link to the OFFICIAL rules posted by blizzard as to what "BM" is. You may duel in a PRIVATE group that doesn't use tap, but we are not in your little private group and I was not talking about private duelers or the .05% of duelers left in Diablo 2 who play exclusively privately anyway.
I urge you to get out of your bubble about the reality of dueling on battle net. The VAST VAST majority of duels occur in public games. Private dueling with balance rules like no life tap, other than in small groups of maybe 5 to 10, is dead.
Finally, I don't care about your posturing. You "whip" those pallys that do use tap? First, no, you don't whip a good pally that uses tap. At least, not very often. Second, who the hell cares anyway?
P.S. Notice, I didn't call you a "Liar" about your implied domination of all pallys that use tap, i.e. only one has given me any trouble
Translation of your comment: either you rarely if ever actually duel them (in which case your comment is misleading at best), or it's an "exageration" of your success. You hate lifetap. Why? Because it's overpowered of course. If lifetap was so easily beaten by non-lifetap, people wouldn't care. Lifetap is annoying for a reason. That reason is that is grants a huge advantage against those that don't use it, esp. for two pallys of the same type. So don't tell me out of one side of your mouth that lifetap is so terrible, and then out of the other how you dominate people that use it.
a foh pally is nothing new...
and they are very overrated
Am I the only one that feels Welt needs to duel one of us before he claims his no-lifetap paladin, or his fire druid pwns all.
Am I the only one that feels Welt needs to duel one of us before he claims his no-lifetap paladin, or his fire druid pwns all.
yep, any decent caster can kill those builds without getting touched
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