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Iuris
23-06-2005, 12:02
How come? A level 27 strafe is still a few points below the regular attack in pure damage. Shouldn't those 135% add up to far more than the -25% of strafe? Does this have something to do with merc auras and similar?

hulla-hop
23-06-2005, 12:12
How come? A level 27 strafe is still a few points below the regular attack in pure damage. Shouldn't those 135% add up to far more than the -25% of strafe? Does this have something to do with merc auras and similar?

hmm, 100% damage - 25% = 75%...
75%x1.35=101%...technically it should be a little bit above normal attack. maybe its a bug, maybe my math is wrong :)

ToThePoint
23-06-2005, 12:46
hmm, 100% damage - 25% = 75%...
75%x1.35=101%...technically it should be a little bit above normal attack. maybe its a bug, maybe my math is wrong :)
ofc your math is wrong :)
normal attack gets full benefit of dex, strafe doesn't.
normal = (base damage)*(100+%ed)/100
strafe = (base damage)*(100+%ed+strafe)*0.75/100

reaarange will give strafe%=(100+%ed)/3 (for equal final dmage)
so if a char has 300%dex and no other ed from jewels, auras etc:
a strafe % of >133% is required to get the same damage.

so for original poster, you probably have dex (or effective dex) > 305.
Also elemental damage gets 0.75 penalty so that could be a factor.

Iuris
23-06-2005, 14:00
:scratch: OK, thanks a lot. So far, the damage seems to be quite sufficient anyway, and I can't wait to get 16 more levels and switch to Windforce... My own, legit, Single player, one of the first Pit runs, Windforce.

I actually only started the amazon character to see it in action...

hulla-hop
23-06-2005, 15:51
ofc your math is wrong :)
normal attack gets full benefit of dex, strafe doesn't.
normal = (base damage)*(100+%ed)/100
strafe = (base damage)*(100+%ed+strafe)*0.75/100

reaarange will give strafe%=(100+%ed)/3 (for equal final dmage)
so if a char has 300%dex and no other ed from jewels, auras etc:
a strafe % of >133% is required to get the same damage.

so for original poster, you probably have dex (or effective dex) > 305.
Also elemental damage gets 0.75 penalty so that could be a factor.

oh, that makes sense actually...wouldnt have expected that from you :P

ToThePoint
23-06-2005, 16:12
oh, that makes sense actually...wouldnt have expected that from you :P
haha dont lie - we both posted as expected!

edit: phool its explained above...

phool
23-06-2005, 16:22
I think if u hav no ed from anywhere except 4 strafe, strafe does do a lot more damage. If u already hav +250ed, then ur raising it to +385ed, but instead of 100+(2.5x100) it's 75+(3.85x75)... or something... so instead of 350 with base u do 289 with strafe. This is a guess, maybe i'll test