VERY interesting results

[fredsta54]

So i decided to make a jabber on single player, and after testing it against friends single player barb on tcpi, i think there is seriously potential for this to work.

I used angelics, gob toe (main damage source), 17/30/20 shield w/ dtm, twitchthroe, deaths gloves + sash, 15ed harpoon, and duskdeep. What i achieved was 5 fps jab with cb triggering very often, and an zon with 10% (i think) chance to be hit by an attack that penetrates her puny defense. With 1.4k life took a angelic combo 300ed bsnap barb about 20 wws to kill her and by that time my jabs with cb and ~30 pvp dmg per hit (5 attacks per sec= 180 dmg against shieldless opponent per second) atk rating was 13k so dont have to worry bout their defense too much



phew long post

anyway i am intrigued and i will be doing more testing


Fred

[ethos]

Whats the listed damage for your attack?
As with most of your builds im sceptical :p and I assume your using twitch.
20 wwnds??? thats maybe half a minute worth of wwnding. The funny thing is that both musta characters suckd so bad, because no other close range pvp build i know of takes 30 seconds to kill. But then again, test more vs other characters and post your findings. I still think that Charged Strike zons own much more, because you can exploit a glitch and farcast your attack. Its kinda like wppk. gl though ^_^
Whats next, Vengeance Pali? or Fire zon :lol:

[Murrogh]

explain this build a little more.
is it only against barbs?
is it supposed to be a high lvl dueler or lld?

I just dont see how the puny dmg from javalin is going to be enough to take a barb down after crushing blow.

I would have to agree with ethos that a charged strike zon would be better.

[fredsta54]

The listed damage is 130 avg dmg before crit strike, which is ****ty i know. Jabber>cs zon because jab is so sexy, and 5 fpa attack is pretty sweet.

The barb he had was using perf bonesnap and angelic combo. He was just a typical Pvm ww barb.

As i said, almost all of the damage comes from very fast attack speed + crushing blow, if fbr is not as important due to 60%ish dodge, then ill go with open wounds. Open wounds + crushing blow+ 5 attacks per second could kill pretty easily, and the style points for this zon would be off the charts, considering youd be using a non magic///rare harpoon.

Charged strike would be much better but in melee duel games youd be flamed, and probably nked and shunned. A jabber would just be marveled upon.


The reason it took so many ww's is because standing still or attacking or walking i have a ~10% chance to be hit from an attack, and with 1.2k life + your gonna last a while.



And yeah, this zon would be a pure melee dueler, with the resists she had it wouldnt be worth it to duel sorcs or casters.


Fred



PS. I know your all in shock ;P

[sculpen]

This was the first lld I made after returning to classic. :) I had much fun with jabazons in LoD lld during 1.09. After learning that throwing weapons couldnt have magic mods, I knew I would have the only jabazon around. I would recommend Swordback over a 17/30/20 because fhr is not needed as Jab is uninteruptable, and Wounds is great when cb wears off at around half life. Indeed, she does take a while to kill opponents, but thats just fine because with her defenses, she can last a long time. She basically wins by not dieing first. They can easily beat anyone not using a shield. She gets extra points for being probabaly the best looking char in the game with twitch + sback + big jav. Prepare for a stream of "wtf how u attack so fast" and "why cant i hit u?" exclamations. :D

[fredsta54]

yes fhr isnt that important, im more concerned about fbr

although s-back would be godly cuz of open wounds, fbr i think is essential; mabye not tho, and i bet this zon could take the small population of zealots as well, not to mention conc barbs. I think s/s ww bvbs would be too much tho, unless they run with sharp objects.


Fred



edit: and yes im very excited about this whole project, if it turns out even semi-succesful, then im satisifed, especially since all this gear costs nilch

[fredsta54]

I am building this zon on bnet, so those of you who i see online frequently are welcome to take a look, and mabye i will duel your lld zealot xey :)

I am gonna use

Twitchthroe
15ed 3 ar harpoon
deaths combo
3 p ruby helm or duskdeep (small boost to dmg or lots of life, duskdeep adds more than biggins)
Gob toe
Angelic combo
S-back or 50+ block fbr shield (i hope very much to use s-back, but mabye fbr will be essential)

I have xfered all this gear on to Jizzhut, my lvl 1 jabber.

Ill be maxing dodge, jab, crit strike, and probably max penetrate. I dont think i will add ANY to inner sight because i heard it has to be maxed to be effective, and with 12k+ ar i think ill be hitting just fine.


Fred

[sardoniclysane]

The listed damage is 130 avg dmg before crit strike, which is ****ty i know. Jabber>cs zon because jab is so sexy, and 5 fpa attack is pretty sweet.

The barb he had was using perf bonesnap and angelic combo. He was just a typical Pvm ww barb.

As i said, almost all of the damage comes from very fast attack speed + crushing blow, if fbr is not as important due to 60%ish dodge, then ill go with open wounds. Open wounds + crushing blow+ 5 attacks per second could kill pretty easily, and the style points for this zon would be off the charts, considering youd be using a non magic///rare harpoon.

Charged strike would be much better but in melee duel games youd be flamed, and probably nked and shunned. A jabber would just be marveled upon.


The reason it took so many ww's is because standing still or attacking or walking i have a ~10% chance to be hit from an attack, and with 1.2k life + your gonna last a while.



And yeah, this zon would be a pure melee dueler, with the resists she had it wouldnt be worth it to duel sorcs or casters.


Fred



PS. I know your all in shock ;P

How are you achieving 5fpa.

5.5 I can see, but I don't see you getting 80 ias there, so the 5 fpa is impossible.

[sculpen]

Good point about fbr. By the way, what level do you plan on keeping this jabber. They tend to lose effectiveness very quickly vs combos like ww/bo and fana/holy shield. This patch doesn't seem to favor fast hitting, low damage chars, which is a shame. :(

[fredsta54]

ill be making this jabber to around lvl 80 probably. Currently JizzHut is @ lvl 32, and has taken down several ww barbs around her lvl. She gets stomped by lvl 50+ ww barbs but with 400ish life thats expected. I have taken down Xey's lvl 26 zealot, although, the matchups were about 60/40 (his favour) when i was lvl 28, now, im pretty sure its 1 sided :)

I did actually notice fbr to be an issue when being attacked by ww barbs, although, it wasnt crucial. Fhr is useless since i dont get hit much and jab is interuptable, I have a vulpine bone shield of deflecting in my stash though, just in case. S-back is a large part of my damage though :(


FRed

[Still-Xey-Lover]

In a plain zeal and jab match id most likely lose because i cant hit you, but if i combine zeal with smite and sac id win =)