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Anyone here interested in playing WC3 or SC with me? I'm bored of WoW and need something to pass the time.
Carnage-DVS
16-06-2005, 07:33
I play Warcraft 3, but only the mod Defense of the Ancients:Allstars for it. I think it's the most popular mod out there for it. Lots of fun.
LuckyDwarf
16-06-2005, 17:01
SC is the greatest RTS ever made. I'd play it if I wasn't hooked on Guild Wars. :)
Lucky
MoUsE_WiZ
16-06-2005, 18:09
SC is the greatest RTS ever made. I'd play it if I wasn't hooked on Guild Wars. :)
Lucky
Ditto.7890
I like to play warcraft 3 (w/ frozen throne) but I am not the strongest competitive player. Maybe we can try to play 2P v 2C or something, I have been looking for a more permanent WC3 buddy.
I play under the account rachil0 on the US east server (I can't remember their weird equivalent name for it, azeroth or lordaeron or whatnot). I don't even know how to shout to other players or whatnot so please message here if you would like to set up a game and meeting time.
:thumbsup:
hop on starcraft useast and track down g0t.HoNoR, and i'll gladly game with ya...
SC > WC3
cheers
-tai
SC is the greatest RTS ever made. I'd play it if I wasn't hooked on Guild Wars.
Lucky
agreed. although i play both; w3 AND sc, and sc is very simple yet complex at the same time. im not sure why blizzard made a better 'sc'(remember, im quoting, its not the same) but with better graphics, not gameplay.
lets compare it, shall we?
w3 = 4races, thats harder to balance than 3. for which is, an imbalanced game. its balanced through what? 17patches? while sc, which launched long time ago, 97. and only has 12 patches.
the ladder system is cool for w3, but with the messed up AMM(annoymous match making), it makes the team unbalanced. one team will be better than another(team levels), this new patch dont count levels anymore but statistics and win chance %.
whatever the case may be, im sticking to SC... sorry w3.. i cant believe i wasted my money!
SC, east / west: REDNU is my account. cheers! :winner:
WingBlade
16-06-2005, 21:49
Haven't played SC in a long time.....
How do u get resources again :bonk:
Valar-Wrath
16-06-2005, 22:01
Is it just me or does anyone else hate SC? It just seemed like an alien version of Age of Empires.
*Crawls in flame-proof hole*
you sick sad person... BURN HIM AT THE STEAK... or eat it?
MoUsE_WiZ
16-06-2005, 23:35
Is it just me or does anyone else hate SC? It just seemed like an alien version of Age of Empires.
*Crawls in flame-proof hole*
:rant::rant::rant::rant:
If you're going to say Starcraft is an alien version of anything, then say it's "just Warcraft in space". That would be a horribly inaccurate statement, but at least it wouldn't be comparing Starcraft to the piece of trash that was AoE... even my friend who swears by AoK admits AoE was garbage.
Valar-Wrath
17-06-2005, 03:11
:rant::rant::rant::rant:
If you're going to say Starcraft is an alien version of anything, then say it's "just Warcraft in space". That would be a horribly inaccurate statement, but at least it wouldn't be comparing Starcraft to the piece of trash that was AoE... even my friend who swears by AoK admits AoE was garbage.
What's the huge difference then? AoE was constructing an army and buildings, finding resources, and attacking your enemies. Looked like SC was the same way. I believe all the controls were the same also.
Then why don't you group all rpgs as a clone of each other? All you do is get better gear and try to have the highest character. Hell you could group all games as a clone of each other in the fact that their just a way to pass time.
Valar-Wrath
17-06-2005, 03:47
Then why don't you group all rpgs as a clone of each other? All you do is get better gear and try to have the highest character. Hell you could group all games as a clone of each other in the fact that their just a way to pass time.
I didn't use such general similarities when grouping the two games. My idea of SC is that it's a more advanced, space version of AoE. Maybe I'm wrong as I've only played it a little and a while back but am I way off or what? Are there huge differences that I'm missing or are the similarities that I state not so similar? Because you didn't exactly prove me wrong. :confused:
How could you hate starcraft? That was the first blizzard game I ever played when I first got my computer at age 10 or 11 i think. I played it for so long. I would stay up countless nights and play with my pot of coffee right next to me. I loved ladder except for the fact that it was slow -_-
The only thing that obthered me was so many people used mh. Is that what it's called ? I play diablo to much -_-
I only stopped playing because my disk broke. I didn't buy a new one because i took it as a sign i played to much o_o
Starcraft takes my vote even tho i love warcraft 3. I agree the ladder system is really messed up. I hate being a lvl 14 and going up against a lvl 33. Not fair :P Especially since I have my good days and my bad. Some days i almost completely forget strategies and the others that's all i can think about -_-
Starcraft still takes the cake tho :D
WingBlade
17-06-2005, 15:16
Starcraft takes my vote even tho i love warcraft 3. I agree the ladder system is really messed up. I hate being a lvl 14 and going up against a lvl 33. Not fair :P Especially since I have my good days and my bad. Some days i almost completely forget strategies and the others that's all i can think about -_-
Starcraft still takes the cake tho :D
U mean u had strategies.... I just made things in random order.... ooh look there's a queen... should I build a tank 1st or should I make a bunker....
No, but valar thats essentially what an RTS game is. ALL rts games have to do with building an army, finding an opponent, then killing them. Warhammer 40k... all of them. Would you call the Lord of the Rings a clone of some earlier fantasy book? It has to do with good vs evil.
Valar-Wrath
17-06-2005, 17:37
No, but valar thats essentially what an RTS game is. ALL rts games have to do with building an army, finding an opponent, then killing them. Warhammer 40k... all of them.
You're right, but then AoE really IS like SC. There are some differences, and I agree SC is probably better and more advanced, but the two are very similar.
That's all I was saying, that SC was a more advanced version of AoE. According to you, I was correct.
That makes me wonder how someone can love SC so much and think it's one of the greatest games but then despise AoE and think it's a pile of junk when the two are so alike.
Maybe I didn't play enough of either.
/shrug
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You're right, but then AoE really IS like SC. There are some differences, and I agree SC is probably better and more advanced, but the two are very similar.
That's all I was saying, that SC was a more advanced version of AoE. According to you, I was correct.
That makes me wonder how someone can love SC so much and think it's one of the greatest games but then despise AoE and think it's a pile of junk when the two are so alike.
Maybe I didn't play enough of either.
/shrug
i think i can differentiate the difference, the major difference between SC and AoE. because SC is ultimately NOT the 'advanced' version of AoE as you deemed to be.
from 12 different civ's, we will call this race... to SC's triple race. i mean, AoE is mostly building up and attack, SC has more magic, spell usages etc. one major difference.* AoE is like WC. now THATS better. i believe youre the only one that does NOT like SC was because you were never good at it. people who are often bad at games will deny it as a bad game. why? because they never win.
cheers.
I think he just didn't play SC enough so he classifies it with all those other games like AoM etc etc :) I'd probally of done the same thing if i didn't play it as much as I did.
Valar-Wrath
17-06-2005, 18:24
i believe youre the only one that does NOT like SC was because you were never good at it. people who are often bad at games will deny it as a bad game. why? because they never win.
Yes, that must be it. You disagree with my opinion so I must have been bad at the game. Or maybe it was that I actually didn't like the game. *gasp* Is that possible? But no, no, your opinion is right and mine is wrong. Thanks for showing me the light. :thumbsup:
I think he just didn't play SC enough so he classifies it with all those other games like AoM etc etc :) I'd probally of done the same thing if i didn't play it as much as I did.
I think Dahkar's got the gist(sp?) of it.
then not playing it long enough classifies it as bad? thats not a valid statement.
MoUsE_WiZ
18-06-2005, 00:22
then not playing it long enough classifies it as bad? thats not a valid statement.
Just for the record, had his arguement been:
I haven't played much starcraft.
Dogs have wings.
Dogs don't have wings.
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Therefore Starcraft is a bad game.
His arguement would have been valid.
Carnage-DVS
18-06-2005, 01:31
I urge you to go to www.dota-allstars.com and download the map. It's amazingly fun, and more addictive than normal warcraft3.
MoUsE_WiZ
18-06-2005, 01:41
I urge you to go to www.dota-allstars.com and download the map. It's amazingly fun, and more addictive than normal warcraft3.
Punching yourself in the face is more addictive than normal WC3 though, so that's not saying much.
I play that all the time carnage if you want to play a game of it message me on Azeroth @ Dahkar
Valar-Wrath
18-06-2005, 03:31
then not playing it long enough classifies it as bad? thats not a valid statement.
First off, you can disagree with my opinion, you of course have your own. But saying that my opinion is 'invalid' is just ignorant. Example: Person A. watches wrestling for 10 minutes, thinks it's absolutely stupid, turns it off and watches something else. Person B. asks what they thought of wrestling and Person A. says they didn't like it. Person B. tells Person A. that their opinion is invalid. Does that make any sense? Either Person B. doesn't respect others' opinions or he's just an ***.
Secondly, I CAN and WILL say that the game is bad even if I had only played it for 5 minutes. What I did play, I did not like, which in my books classifies it as bad. Once again, this is a matter of opinion. And you know why I didn't play the game longer? Hmmm, because it was bad. I'm not going to play a game that I don't like for 5 hours straight. Just like you wouldn't continue to play any game if you don't like it.
So as it stands, my OPINION is that the game is not good. Disagree all you want, but don't get mad at me and call my ideas invalid just because I don't agree with you.
LuckyDwarf
18-06-2005, 07:07
There are two reasons why I really like Starcraft.
1) It is, in my eyes, perfectly balanced. There was always a way to win in any given situation, granted, you had the skill to pull it off. Often micromanagement was more important than who had more units or more powerful units. I have not found this to be as true in other games I have played. I happen to think SC is the most balanced RTS period. Not every person rushed to build the same units.
2) For the lengthy time I played, I never actually encountered many cheaters. A few maphackers, but they died anyway, because they sucked at the actually playing part.
Lucky
MoUsE_WiZ
18-06-2005, 09:16
It's not just the perfectly balanced, it's the perfectly balanced while races remain completely different.
It's easy to make a game balanced when there's n different races each with some variety of footman, some variety of catapult, some variety of archer, and some variety of knight (or similar units only with sci-fi or modern day names).
you just cant accept the fact that SC > other rTs, thats okay though. -_-;
Chimaira
19-06-2005, 19:08
I agree with the people who said that StarCraft is the best RTS ever made, and it's definitely because it is so well balanced and the 3 races are so different. And to the person who played StarCraft for 5 minutes and decided it was a bad game...you really should play it some more:)
Both tft and bw owns so hard, I love rts and rpg, and mmo, and fps, I LOVE COMPUTER GAMES!!
I play Warcraft 3, but only the mod Defense of the Ancients:Allstars for it. I think it's the most popular mod out there for it. Lots of fun.
Hehe, I saw you on dota forums. That was on the old forums, before they crashed.
Carnage-DVS
20-06-2005, 23:42
Hehe, I saw you on dota forums. That was on the old forums, before they crashed.
Hah, fo'real? Man, I had three lengthy strategy guides on the old forums when it was wiped out. Then I had to re-write them for the new updated forums. Then THEY were wiped out. ARGH! I have to now dig up my old non updated versions and post them. Freaking annoying I tell you what.
By the way, you should check out the Game Balance forums for that site once in a while. So many people to flame, so little time.
I agree with game balance. Its ridiculous at the times. People whine about pugna, while they have never seen him played e_e(its not hard to own with pugna though, so I dont see why they whine ..)
Carnage-DVS
21-06-2005, 03:08
Pugna's more of a pub char anyway. Not much of a team player. What I can't stand are people whining about clinkz/Na'ix/Skeleton King etc. They are all easily countered and if people just used their heads, the game balance forum wouldn't be the joke that it's always been.
I dont look as deep into the game as you guys do. I wil play a game for a couple of hours even if it's not that great because some parts of games aren't very good -_-
But once u get past them the game is awsome :D
I personally love starcraft but not because of it being so well balanced but because IMO it was easy to master and It didn't take up to much memory (crappy comp -_-)
I also enjoy TFT but my comp lags so much when im in a battle that micromanagement is nearly im possible!
Which screws me over alot as i dont like building mass grunts and attacking enemys base until they die. I prefer a more well balanced army. For example melee casters ranged. Meat shields in front casters in mid ranged in back. Perfect army for me. The game is addictive and that's why i play it. Mainly because it makes me think as i have to scout and figure out what my opponet is going to do so then i can counter. It's not a game of just build and attack. this makes the game fun for me. Being able to fool your opponet into thinking your going air then raping his army with casters and riflemen or dotc and hunts/archers with potm and dh as back up. THE GAME JUST ALL OUT ROCKS. Starcraft didn't require much thinkging tho cause everyone knew the strats. Mass hydralisks then use defilers for cover. Use the nydus canal to enemys base and take out mineral supply -_-. I saw the same strats used every game. Starcraft is a good game but warcraft beats it down. Im only saying this cause my disk broke for starcraft and i haven't played for like 2 years -_- i miss it so much :(
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