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I get a Vasectomy on Friday and was wondering a couple things I can’t seem to find answers to…..
1- They give you a local to perform the “operation” but none of the literature says where the local is given. Do they give you a shot in the leg near your junk or do they give you a shot in the junk? I’ll admit I’m a little concerned about this part the rest however I’m cool with seeing as it’s my decision to get the vasectomy performed.
2- What position are you in when they perform this, are you sitting, laying down, on your side, in stirrups like giving birth, what? I have no clue and can’t find anything that tells me.
Also-
A friend of mine says that the vasectomy is the females way of demasculinating the men in their relationships. What do you all think? Do you have any thoughts on this little operation? I’d like to here them if you do.
AeroJonesy
10-05-2005, 15:51
I don't know any of the medical specifics, but emasculation? Hardly. The way I see it you have all the fun, and none of the worry of kids.
Garbad_the_Weak
10-05-2005, 16:02
Just remember you can still impregnate someone for like 2 weeks after the cut. Don't go too wild when you first get home.
Garbad
Im sorry to hear your wife is having you neutered.
The reason its done on the man is that the same operation on a female is alot more complicated and alot more dangerous too and as a man its your duty to sacrifice yourself to save her and then go home for some justice league style hero sex.
Im sorry to hear your wife is having you neutered.
The reason its done on the man is that the same operation on a female is alot more complicated and alot more dangerous too and as a man its your duty to sacrifice yourself to save her and then go home for some justice league style hero sex.
It is my decision. Insurance doesn’t cover birth control, $30-$40 per month, I’m married so I’m not going to use a condom, the creams a female can use burn, the time release hormone stuff has too many side effects in too large a percentage of females, I don’t like the idea of my wife possibly needing estrogen supplements 30 years from now just so we can worry free sex, and well I have 4 kids. I’ve made enough future Republicans and I don’t need to make more.
That’s my now 5 month old in my avatar (she was 4 months then)
Namyeknom
10-05-2005, 16:34
Im sorry to hear your wife is having you neutered.
The reason its done on the man is that the same operation on a female is alot more complicated and alot more dangerous too and as a man its your duty to sacrifice yourself to save her and then go home for some justice league style hero sex.
Well said! Justice league style hero sex? Does that involve lots of spandex and capes? If so, I might go and get myself some of that action...
Just wondering, how old are you and your wife?
Garbad_the_Weak
10-05-2005, 16:44
http://www.dontfixit.org/
Garbad
I actually think that is a very mature decision of you and a smart play as long as you are sure you dont want any more children. Lots of guys look at it like its the guy getting his manhood taken away, but just like Johnny said, the same operation for a female(tube tying) is much more invasive and overall more dangerous. Now onto answers:
My mom has been remarried twice(and divorced twice) and both of my stepfathers have been very open to me, and people that I really enjoyed talking to and being with. Because of this I know that they had both had vasectomies before they were in a relationship with my mom and they were more than willing to talk about their experiences.
1) As far as I know both of the men had shots right to the side of their stuff, which as far as I am concerned is still about 2 feet too close for a needle to be to my stuff.(Being only 19, if a vasectomy is on the way, its still a long ways off)
2) Both men were also kind of in the stirrup position, but besides that area the rest is covered by the sheet they put over things during an operation. They both said it went very smoothly and considering all it was a much smaller operation and less invasive then they had expected.
I commend you for the respect you are showing for your wife and the maturity of you decision.
hope all goes well
phil
edit: garbad, it scares me that you came up with something like that on the fly. really it's kind of freaky.
http://www.dontfixit.org/
Garbad
:thumbsup:
I know I wouldnt want to cut out that kind of option. Who knows what might happen?
Personally, Id rather use the pill or a condom over that. And eventually, she'll be past childbearing, and you wont have to worry about it anyway.
gabbard has scared me with many of his "link / name" only posts.
womem can bear children till there 50's with some cases of births at 60
Garbad_the_Weak
10-05-2005, 17:20
Gabbard (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gabbard&btnG=Google+Search)??!11!!1
Garbad
Lostprophet
10-05-2005, 17:42
Wellllllll.... here's the thing.
My Dad got a vasectomy when I was iiiiiin.... 6th-ish grade. He and Mom were convinced that they didn't want any more children after the 3 they had.
And then came the divorce.
Not that he wanted any more children to begin with, or that women he's dating necessarily would, either, but it's always always always a possibility. Especially since you're only 34 (he's nearing 50 now), you just never know what kinds of things will happen. I know, I know; you're totally in love with and committed to your wife and vice versa. But stranger **** has, and will continue, to happen.
On a slightly more ironic note, a mere year and a half after my Dad's vasectomy my Mom developed a condition (I think it was cyst-related; I was young then and they didn't every fully disclose to me what was going down) that necessitated the removal of her entire uterus. My Dad didn't say anything, but I knew what he was thinking.
It can be reversed though.
Necrolestes
10-05-2005, 17:53
A vasectomy can be reversed; however, if the reversal occurs several months to several years after the operation, the body will often no longer recognize sperm as "self-cells" and will proceed to attack them as if they were a bacterial or viral infection (this is an autoimmune attack). This makes the sperm nonviable and thus makes the man infertile (but not impotent).
Chimaira
10-05-2005, 19:32
If there were no complications, I'd do it for sure! I never want children and it would be nice to avoid the hassle of birth control.
Steve_Kow
10-05-2005, 22:18
Maybe you should ask your doctor these questions.
If there were no complications, I'd do it for sure! I never want children and it would be nice to avoid the hassle of birth control.
There is allways diseases though.
Namyeknom
10-05-2005, 22:21
Maybe you should ask your doctor these questions.
You don't want to go trusting doctors! No, you did the right thing asking a bunch of people you don't really know for indepth medical advice...
MixedVariety
10-05-2005, 22:49
I get a Vasectomy on Friday and was wondering a couple things I can’t seem to find answers to…..
1- They give you a local to perform the “operation” but none of the literature says where the local is given.
ski, I'm sorry to say you got that part wrong. They don't give you a local to perform the operation. They hire a local to perform the operation. Don't worry, though.
There is allways diseases though.
birth control pills don't cover that either. moreover, they are not even 99% effective at preventing pregnancy. women are usually advised by their doctors not to use the pill as their only form of birth control, that at the very least it should be paired with a condom (especially when there is a possiblity of disease).
as far as the emasculating bit.. my dad had the proceedure done, no regrets. he and my mom got divorced about three years ago, and that man got more play than the fraternities at my school. he is now seriously dating a woman who has 7 kids (ages 3-15; he's 46) and who wants to have a child with him if they get married (a very likely possiblity as they've just bought a house together), so he is currently very grateful that he had the proceedure done and that if he gets it reversed it might not work.
not shooting anything is better than not getting it up at all. at least from my point of view :innocent:
ski, I'm sorry to say you got that part wrong. They don't give you a local to perform the operation. They hire a local to perform the operation. Don't worry, though.
LOL that sounded like a scene right out of League of Gentlemen.
zodiac66
11-05-2005, 00:13
The whole emasulation thing is so funny. When a lady has her tubes tied, is she efeminized? Same thing..different tubes.
DrunkCajun
11-05-2005, 00:23
birth control pills don't cover that either. moreover, they are not even 99% effective at preventing pregnancy. women are usually advised by their doctors not to use the pill as their only form of birth control
Are you crazy? SHHHHH! Knock on some wood, damnit! You'll jinx it!!
MixedVariety
11-05-2005, 00:31
The whole emasulation thing is so funny. When a lady has her tubes tied, is she efeminized? Same thing..different tubes.
Agreed. The whole emasculation business is for folks with low self-esteem.
In our case, my wife decided with the birth of our fourth that it would be the last time she'd ever have a child. I offered to have myself snipped, but she did it instead (much easier to have it done at time of childbirth, by the way). Her reasoning was that sure, I could do it, but she wanted to be 100% positive (or as close as humanly possible) that she would never again bear a child; and that is probably the best way to do it.
There is no cessation of sexual desires, for those who worry about such things, after either male or female operations.
Namyeknom
11-05-2005, 00:37
Agreed. The whole emasculation business is for folks with low self-esteem.
In our case, my wife decided with the birth of our fourth that it would be the last time she'd ever have a child. I offered to have myself snipped, but she did it instead (much easier to have it done at time of childbirth, by the way). Her reasoning was that sure, I could do it, but she wanted to be 100% positive (or as close as humanly possible) that she would never again bear a child; and that is probably the best way to do it.
There is no cessation of sexual desires, for those who worry about such things, after either male or female operations.
Was she worried you might go out to get a vasectomy, but forget on the way or something?
MixedVariety
11-05-2005, 00:53
Was she worried you might go out to get a vasectomy, but forget on the way or something?
Let me put this succinctly.
Though we are very much in love and committed to each other, things happen. Even taking cheating and divorce out of the picture, husbands can die and widows re-marry or have boyfriends. Women get raped. Whatever.
She wanted to make sure she never, ever got pregnant again. She's been a trooper but come on, four kids is plenty in this era.
I liked your idea, though; I am a scientist, after all, and have been known to be absentminded.
Namyeknom
11-05-2005, 01:02
I only asked cause its what I'd do, one monent I'm concentrating on something and the... oh a butterfly...
Yes I could ask my doctor, but I was thinking hey I wonder if someone here has had the operation and there fore has first hand experience, also it really doesn’t matter how they give the local, or the position I’m in, I’m still getting it done but was just curious.
I don’t personally feel it’s emasculating; a friend who is probably one of the most chauvinistic persons I know said “Dude you’re going to let her tell you to get your nuts cut? Man I won’t every let some woman tell me that, no way the boys are mine, she can get fixed. Who wears the pants in your family you or her?” I told him that I chose to do it not her but well he’s not the brightest bulb in the box sometimes and doesn’t think any man would choose to do it.
Have you looked into an IUD (http://www.mjbovo.com/Contracept/IUD.htm) for her as an alternative?
-D2netDad
Have you looked into an IUD (http://www.mjbovo.com/Contracept/IUD.htm) for her as an alternative?
-D2netDad
"Does not protect against STD's. Should not be used by women who have: never had children or still want children; an allergy to copper for the ParaGuard® IUD; an artificial heart valve; a history of decreased immune problems; multiple sex partners; a history of pelvic inflammatory disease (PID) or tubal pregnancy. Side effects possible: cramps, backache, spotting, heavy periods. May have an increase risk for tubal pregnancy, PID, infertility. Must check for string after every period - May be expelled without knowing it."
Oh yeah thats all good. I cant imagine a woman not wanting this thing. I mean if they had this printed on a poster ad for this, women would be flocking to buy one.
Id rather wear condoms for the rest of my life than have a wife that has to use that thing.
IUD:s are a quite common protective when you've had children and while they might have side effects, those are not that common. You can choose between the "old" copper IUD and the new more expensive hormone secreting ones. One possible advantage with the hormone producing IUD is that it may stabilize irregular, and larger menstrual hemorrhages if the female has those. For most women the insertion and extraction of the IUD is uncomfortable but not overly painful.
However I think the thread starter have made the best choice by getting a vasectomy, if he's certain he don't want any more babies in the future. Its the most safe contraceptive method, with next to no side effects.
As other have said there's no guarantie you will be fertile again if you choose to make a vasovasostomy (fixing the vasectomy) in the future.
I think that it varies somewhat between clinics in what position you'll be when doing the procedure. They wont put the anastetic in you junk though . Good luck with the procedure!
I'll give an update on it after and there is no way I will ever want more kids ever, ever, ever. I love the 4 I have, I make enough moeny to provide for them and give them the oprotunity to do sports/dance and such, but more kids would limit that, and limit my families ability to do our little vacation every summer and such. So no, no more kids. I wanted the closest to 100% I can get, which will require 2 sperm count test, one a month after operation and one a month after that. Once it is verified that the count is zero it's time for hours upon hours of hero sex.
Oh yeah thats all good. I cant imagine a woman not wanting this thing. I mean if they had this printed on a poster ad for this, women would be flocking to buy one.
Id rather wear condoms for the rest of my life than have a wife that has to use that thing.
Nothing like reading comprehension! 99% effective birth control that requires little maintenance and no medication and lasts for up to 10 years, an immediate turnaround if you decide to have kids, with very low-risk side effects has to be evil because Johnny said so!
G'luck on your endeavor Ski. My time will come....
-D2netDad
Dutchman
11-05-2005, 18:30
A few points:
First, from my doctor
- Tubes tying is invasive surgery, but can be done right after a birth removing the requirement for an extra hospital stay
- Tubes tying is reversible with subsequent surgery the vast majority of the time
- A vasectomy is a minor procedure (my boss came to work that same afternoon.)
- A vasectomy has a high percentage chance of not being reversible, increasing with time passed. At this point you are either infertle or surgery is required to remove sperm from your sac for artificial insemination.
From personal experience
- Vasectomies are not 100%, somehow the body can sometimes regenerate. A friend of mine with 3 kids got snipped, passed all the sperm tests, then found his wife pregnant 4 years later. After his initial fits of ranting and raving (and deep suspicion ;) ) he was tested again and had a normal sperm count. His body had managed to re-attach the ends on its own.
As an aside, there is a fairly new version of the vasectomy that requires no surgery. Rather than cut they crush the tube accomplishing the same goal. While I don't like the idea of pliers near my nut sack it sounds a helluva lot better than a knife.
Dutch
rplusplus
11-05-2005, 22:30
Just do it.
And as for being any less......
It was like being a teen again! Spontanaity went through the roof.
R++
Oh and it is a great excuse to lay around the house all weekend chewing on codeine!
zodiac66
11-05-2005, 22:48
I had my tubes tied with my c-section. After all, I had all my innards laid out on my tummy anyway.
CyberHawk
12-05-2005, 02:14
This is somthing my wife kinda heard/knows about..its called essure (http://www.essure.com/consumer/c_homepage.aspx) .
So come on guys nitpick this forawhile..lets find the good and bad. So far me reading its new (which I wonder about), and its simple...hmm. So who knows...but a near 1/2 hour visit and off to sex right after sounds pretty good.
Namyeknom
12-05-2005, 12:41
Just do it.
And as for being any less......
It was like being a teen again! Spontanaity went through the roof.
R++
Oh and it is a great excuse to lay around the house all weekend chewing on codeine!
Hmmmm, codeine....
Just do it.
And as for being any less......
It was like being a teen again! Spontanaity went through the roof.
R++
Oh and it is a great excuse to lay around the house all weekend chewing on codeine!
I can’t do codeine I’m allergic to it, I get a non generic vicodin when ever I get pain meds, they gave me generic once after leaving the hospital from a severe roll over accident and ended up back in the hospital about 4 hours later because the pharmacy gave me a generic vicodin that contained codeine….Idiots
well everyone I'm off to the doctor see all on Monday with details for those interested.
Garbad_the_Weak
13-05-2005, 15:19
No pics please. :o
Garbad
Ok well I’m alive after my little surgery. I had been given a number of horror stories from people around the work place that have had the operation and they all turned out to be false.
First I got to the office of the doctor and was called in about 10 minutes after arriving (this is something I’m not used to with doctors, normally it’s a 30-45 minute wait minimum past the schedule appointment time.) and put in a room to have a consult with the doctor. A nurse comes in about 2 minutes later and asks numerous questions to include the number of kids I have and if my wife is in agreement with me having the surgery. Apparently if you tell them you are married you have to have permission from your wife to get the surgery done. The nurse leaves and 5 minutes later the doctor enters and tells us (my wife was with me) how the procedure will be performed and all the possible side effects (almost none) and results from many studies to include 2 studies done in 1983 that shows a link to increased chance of prostate cancer, there have since been no studies that point towards an increase in cancer risk and all nearly all studies since have shown that it is actually possible that the chances is slightly decreased but not enough to be consider as an aid in reducing prostate cancer risk. This is being reported as a possible link to increased sexual activity in men with a vasectomy and the increase in sexual activity reduces likely hood of prostate cancer.
Well all questions are asked and answered by both the doctor and myself so we move to one of the “surgery rooms”. The “surgery room” is really nothing more than a normal room that you see any doctor in other than some additional lighting much like a dentist has. Here the doctor asked me to remove my lower clothing and lay back on the table. He then started to locate the vas tubes from the outside of the scrodum. After doing that he put iodine all over the scrodum and coved all of me from mid chest to foot with a sterile surgical cloth. After completing this stage of the procedure he calls in his assistant, turned out to be a rather attractive blonde girl about 20. Not really what you want when your getting snipped but hey at least it wasn’t a 60 year old lady. The doctor then cut an opening in the cloth that was (according to my wife who stayed in to watch) just large enough to give access to my scrodum thankfully not showing my member to the 20 year old. The doctor then gave a local which he said would result in a sharp poke but really I didn’t feel anything more than a slight need to itch. After a few minutes he asked how I was doing and said he was done with the left side and was about to start the right. This surprised me because no pain or discomfort or anything, but that changed with the right side. He had difficulty finding the right side and had to dig around inside to get the vas tube and pull it out for the snipping. This caused some major discomfort (pain) but after he found the tube it was like the left side nothing. He then said he had to close up and would take a minute or two and then I’d be done. When all was said and done it was really something very simple and other than having to find the right side the procedure went very smooth.
I rested most of the weekend watching a lot of movies, and doing a little gaming, with almost no discomfort other than a few hours Saturday evening but some extra strength Tylenol fixed than and all is good.
DrunkCajun
16-05-2005, 16:17
I just realized what a big baby I am. Reading your post made me woozy. As in, if I stood up right now I'd fall over.
Reason #32439 why DrunkCajun didn't go to medical school.
Isolde and I had this conversation last night. While I'm still rooting for an unstoppable horde of Anakha spawn to take over the world, she wants to stop at 2. I refuse to have my tubes tied. I disagree with that. Mostly because I believe something that personal is entirely my decision and I won't let someone else make that decision for me. Plus I'd find it very demasculating doing it just because my wife wants me to. It's a hard decision I'd definently have to come to of my own volition.
Reason #32439 why DrunkCajun didn't go to medical school.
I don't think you really had to keep counting reasons after the necrophilia conviction.
DrunkCajun
16-05-2005, 16:26
I don't think you really had to keep counting reasons after the necrophilia conviction.
Shhh! Don't tell!
Besides, that KY Warming stuff really...yeah, nevermind.
Isolde and I had this conversation last night. While I'm still rooting for an unstoppable horde of Anakha spawn to take over the world, she wants to stop at 2. I refuse to have my tubes tied. I disagree with that. Mostly because I believe something that personal is entirely my decision and I won't let someone else make that decision for me. Plus I'd find it very demasculating doing it just because my wife wants me to. It's a hard decision I'd definently have to come to of my own volition.
I don't think you really had to keep counting reasons after the necrophilia conviction.
It was totally my decision but I needed my wife’s permission or I had to tell them I was no longer married or my wife was dead or something. They for some reason don’t want you to just go off and have it done. That was I think the only thing that bugged me about it, I need my wife’s permission but she can get and abortion, or herself fixed without having to tell me, but that I guess is better left for another thread.
Anyhow as I was holding my 5 month old yesterday while she caught some zzzz’s, I had a moment where I almost got a little teary eyed. I know I don’t want more children but it was momentarily sad that I will never have my own child of that size in my arms again. She will be my last and she will be spoiled because of it I fear.
It was totally my decision but I needed my wife’s permission or I had to tell them I was no longer married or my wife was dead or something. They for some reason don’t want you to just go off and have it done. That was I think the only thing that bugged me about it, I need my wife’s permission but she can get and abortion, or herself fixed without having to tell me, but that I guess is better left for another thread.
Anyhow as I was holding my 5 month old yesterday while she caught some zzzz’s, I had a moment where I almost got a little teary eyed. I know I don’t want more children but it was momentarily sad that I will never have my own child of that size in my arms again. She will be my last and she will be spoiled because of it I fear.
Man, I'm happy for you. 4 children is quite a bunch, I probably won't have that many anyway.
But I gotta honestly say that reading this just makes me think what a bad idea this is.
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