How do u get to 6klife??

[Katharsis]

Hey guys... ive currently got a lvl 78 ww barb, using all the gear from the pvp ww guide, and about 20ish 20life scs... ive got 77base str, max block without raven frosts (for bvb when using angelics) and rest into vit... now i find myself with about 3.8k life with a maxed bo...

what am i doing wrong? i heard some people get 5k easy... ive never had that on a barb... do i just need to get higher lvl?

thx

[skygoneblue]

Warcry Grand Charms are going to give you a ton more life than your 20 life SCs. Also, gear with +Life (like the underrated Bloodfists) will also give you a ton more life than gear with +Vit (like the much overrated Verdungo's) as the Vit points are not counted for BO; only the +Life items are.

[aznbboi16]

Well, prebuffing with WC Charms will give you the highest amount of life, but using them won't, since WC charms take up 3 spots and have 45 max life, compared to 3x 20 life sc's which = 60 life.
10 WC Charms gives 30% more life, and 30% of 45 is just a tad under 60 life. But good luck getting an inventory full of 45 life WC GCs...20 life sc's are much easier to get.

My 2nd Rate WC barb with plain WC Charms gets about 3.8k life, whereas my primary hld ww barb hits 6-6.1k depending on the setup (no prebuff, no wc charms).
My WC Barb has Base str and enough dex for max block and my WW barb has about 35 base str and enough dex for max block. Having low str will help you out, since barbs get a good amount of life/vit.

Basically you need an inventory full of good charms whether they're max/ar/life or just plain 20 life scs (scs have the highest life possible) and a low str build.

Verdungo's isn't THAT overrated on barbs, since they get a lot of life from it even though it isn't multiplied.

[derekdoo]

well that 30% isnt added on until all the life points are added up and, wc gcs will give you more, aslong as your life (not counting +vit) is at the point the % will add more than base. so lets say you have a 1k life, add 2 p rubys = 1076 times for fun, a lvl 13 bo .71 = 1839.96, now lets say you add 2 jah's so its 1k times .81 =1810, see p ruby is higher but lets see now 2k life with 2 p rubies times .71 = 3473.96 and now 2k life with 2 jah's so 2k times .81 = 3620. so you see, aslong as you have enough life, % will do more. also lets not forget the sexy trang belt.

[aznbboi16]

Yes, and my point is that small charms will give you more life to multiply. Using WC charms won't give you nearly as much base life as using scs, and therefore you are adding more multiplier to a smaller base, which really doesn't help much.

[ToThePoint]

Yes, and my point is that small charms will give you more life to multiply. Using WC charms won't give you nearly as much base life as using scs, and therefore you are adding more multiplier to a smaller base, which really doesn't help much.
Maybe try working stuff out before giving bad information- it depends on base life/lvlbo etc

Example, 2500 base life lvl 33 BO = 131% = 5825 life
now add 3 20scs -> 5913life
swap for plain WC skiller ->5850
WC 27life -> 5913life = same as 3 20scs
obviously higher life WCs give more life for this example.

whats better for you depends on other gear, but to state that rubbish as 'fact' is wrong.

[Decebal]

So whats the max life a barb can have in theory! Please note that following suggested gear is leaned towards maximazing the total amount of life after BC, BO and Shout.

Lets he uses the folowing gear:

Helm - Delerium in helm that has 3 BO, 3 shout , 2 battle command (does such a helmet exist ??? - I know that 3 Bo helmet can spawn)
Amulet - 2 to barb skills and some other goodies
Rings - 2 x Bulkhatos
Armor - Chains of Honour or Enigma
Weapons - 2 echoing weapons do other weapons give better stats?
Gloves - Draculs or Steelrends ( Blodfist an alternative)
Belt - Verdungo or Arach (for the +1 skill mostly)
Boots - Sandstorm, Gore or WT

Charms 10 WC GC and 20 sc vita.

How much life can u get with the above equipment?

/Dec

[Vakarrona]

So whats the max life a barb can have in theory! Please note that following suggested gear is leaned towards maximazing the total amount of life after BC, BO and Shout.

Lets he uses the folowing gear:

Helm - Delerium in helm that has 3 BO, 3 shout , 2 battle command (does such a helmet exist ??? - I know that 3 Bo helmet can spawn)
Amulet - 2 to barb skills and some other goodies
Rings - 2 x Bulkhatos
Armor - Chains of Honour or Enigma
Weapons - 2 echoing weapons do other weapons give better stats?
Gloves - Draculs or Steelrends ( Blodfist an alternative)
Belt - Verdungo or Arach (for the +1 skill mostly)
Boots - Sandstorm, Gore or WT

Charms 10 WC GC and 20 sc vita.

How much life can u get with the above equipment?

/Dec

I have a rare barb helm with +2 barb and +3 bo. It makes +5 BO. Delirium with +3 base BO makes it too. No need to have shout skill, doen't give you more life for that.

As for ammulet, one with +3 warcries of the whale will do the trick. "Of the whale" can get up to 100 life.

10x WC grand charm of vita (up to 50 life)
10x small charm with 20 life

2x skill ring (soj or bulkathos)

armor (any with +2 all skills, there are some)

2x echoing weapon of Mammoth (up to 40 life)

some gloves with life

arach belt

some life boots

Total BO skills:
29 from equipment + 20 from BO skill (hard invested points) + 1 BC + 2 from skill shrine = 52 BO skills. BO lvl 52 gives 188% max life

+ to life items:
50x10 from grand charms
10x20 from small charm
100 ammulet
40 gloves (assuming bloodfist)
65 boots (assuming waterwalk)
2x40 (weapon of mammoth)

Total = 985 life from items and charms.

Barb lvl 1 has 55 life
each point to vitality gives him 4 life. till 99 you have 98x5 stat point + 15 from quests = 505 stat point to spend in vita.
505x4=2020 life from hard points invested in vita

3 quest from life potion in act3 = 3x20 =60 life

985 items + charms
55 base life
2020 from vita points
60 from life potion

Total 3120 life to apply BO.

3120 applying 188% more life:
3120x188%=5865 (rounded down)

Your total life would be 8985.

NOTES:
+ to life based on char lvl and + to vita items don't affect bo, but they still sum to end life after all calculations (didn't do it here).
Don't know about oak sage.
This calculation is based with all stat points into vita wich is impossible due to str/dext requirments to use items. Helm can have life too.
This is an approach value/calculation.
Feel free to correct any wrong values/thoughts.

[aznbboi16]

Maybe try working stuff out before giving bad information- it depends on base life/lvlbo etc

Example, 2500 base life lvl 33 BO = 131% = 5825 life
now add 3 20scs -> 5913life
swap for plain WC skiller ->5850
WC 27life -> 5913life = same as 3 20scs
obviously higher life WCs give more life for this example.

whats better for you depends on other gear, but to state that rubbish as 'fact' is wrong.


OK well thanks for correcting me, although in the future you could probably be more polite about those things. And I never said it was fact and that I couldn't be wrong...

[ToThePoint]

OK well thanks for correcting me, although in the future you could probably be more polite about those things. And I never said it was fact and that I couldn't be wrong...
Well as you wrongly stated that, got corrected by derekdoo then argued wrongly again it needed cleared up.

[jjashik]

prebuff, high base vit and life charms. but most probably already know that. being a higher lvl helps and 50+bo helps to get a lot of life. to get the max amount of life from bo, you will have to endure the task of switching out 30 scs for 10 gcs and then back again.

i have a lvl 93 barb with 32xx life with no cries at all. 8.2k after prebuff. this is with enough dex for max block.

there are also 6bo helms but really hard to get.

[Decebal]

Thx Vakarrona for your time, patience and for explaining so detailed! :clap:

/Dec