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Drogan_Veratos
16-03-2005, 04:39
Alright i have a few questions on my fav char my pit runner strafer.Here is her gear.
Helm-Giant Skull 31str 30ias/40ed(2xed/ias jewels)
Armor-Fortitude Loricated mail 28 resist(i like the look of this armor :) )
Weapon-2/2/12 Faith Mat Bow
Gloves-Laying of the hands
Boots-Sandstorm Treks
Rings-6/8 and 7/6 dual leech ar and resist rings
Belt-Nos Coil
Ammy-Cats Eye

Also this zon is a base vita glass cannon if that matters on opinions

My first question am i over doing it on ias? Do i already hit 7 frames?If so i could use recomendations for some gear to replace usless ias.

Second What are the frw breakpoints for amazons?
Any Help is appreciated

Bullet-Tooth Tony
16-03-2005, 08:41
As far as I know there is no breakpoints for Faster run/walk. "Breakpoints" come from the fact, that actions such as attack, cast, recovery, block, etc. take integer number of frames. The distance between two breakpoints means how much IAS/FCR/etc. you need to make the duration of the action one frame lower.
Faster run/walk uses not frames, but yards per second. You can run 5 y/s, 5,2 y/s 5,1 y/s, so this doesn't seem to have breakpoints of any kind.

I've found theese formulaes:
EffectiveWalkSpeed = BaseWalkSpeed (1 + Skill_FRW / 100 + [Item_FRW * 150 / (Item_FRW + 150)] / 100 + Armor_Speed / 100)
where:
EffectiveWalkSpeed (y/s) - the final walking speed of the character;
BaseWalkSpeed (y/s) = 4 y/s for all classes;
Skill_FRW (%) - the sum of faster run/walk from skills such as Increased Speed, Vigor, Frenzy. As you can see, not affected by diminishing returns;
Item_FRW (%) - the sum of faster run/walk from items. Affected by diminishing returns - Item_FRW * 150 / (Item_FRW + 150)] / 100;
Armor speed (%) - the sum of slowing effects of heavy (-10%), and medium (-5%) armor/shield.

The effective RUNNING speed is simply 2 y/s higher, than the effective walking speed.
Freeze, slows target, etc. works like -Skill_FRW. Slow and freeze can't take you run/walk speed lower than 1 y/s - it's the minimum.

Decebal
16-03-2005, 09:18
[QUOTE=Drogan_Veratos]Alright i have a few questions on my fav char my pit runner strafer.Here is her gear.
Helm-Giant Skull 31str 30ias/40ed(2xed/ias jewels)
Armor-Fortitude Loricated mail 28 resist(i like the look of this armor :) )
Weapon-2/2/12 Faith Mat Bow
Gloves-Laying of the hands
Boots-Sandstorm Treks
Rings-6/8 and 7/6 dual leech ar and resist rings
Belt-Nos Coil
Ammy-Cats Eye

Also this zon is a base vita glass cannon if that matters on opinions

My first question am i over doing it on ias? Do i already hit 7 frames?If so i could use recomendations for some gear to replace usless ias.

U dont reach 7 frames IAS with lev 12 fana on your bow! Sorry...
To bad u made Fortitude in Loricated...thats a heavy armor...slows your running speed!

/Dec

Bullet-Tooth Tony
16-03-2005, 14:58
You can check your attack speed with this IAS calculator:
http://diablo2.ingame.de/tips/calcs/weaponspeed.php?lang=english
according to it, with lvl 12 Fanatisism and Grand Mathron bow you must have 99% total IAS to reach 7 frames, 50% for 8, and 24% for 9.
But on the other hand, you've called your build "Stafer", so I assume, your main attack skill is Strafe. Using Strafe you have a 3-frame with no IAS, 2 frames (fastest possible) requires 39% IAS. You have - 20 from LoH, 30 in helm, 10 on belt, 20 on amulet.
For normal attack/multishot you need 19% more (which is hardly achievable), but for strafe you have more than you need.
For pure strafer I suggest you change your belt and helm:
- get more MF - goldwrap and Shako (you're a pit runner, aren't you?);
- or DR (Vampire gaze + String of ears), but with Valk and Decoy you shouldn't need it much;
- for pure damage get Guillaume's Face (helm from Orphan's set) and change your boots to Gore Rider - your total 50% Crushing blow will take down strong monsters like act bosses in seconds.

itsPizzarific
16-03-2005, 15:01
i think its a faith matriarchal bow .. the bp is like 49ish ias i beleive (under 50 for sure) so you've made it to 7/2 strafe

you could re-socket your giant skull with topazs or something, or get a new one if the ed/ias jewels are valuable to you or you could swap out cats eye for atmas and nos's out for razortail or something .. you have enough LL

gl

Drogan_Veratos
16-03-2005, 15:12
Yes this bow is a Mat=matriarchal Bow so i only need 49 ias to hit the breakpoint?As far as my armor im not concerned with how fast she runs with heavy armor i chose this armor for the way it looks she goes plenty fast i was just wondering if there was a breakpoint.

itsPizzarific
16-03-2005, 15:19
yes the bp is either 48 or 49 i forgot but either way, uve hit it

and sorry but i dont know anything about r/w o_o

superdave
16-03-2005, 16:59
i think its a faith matriarchal bow .. the bp is like 49ish ias i beleive (under 50 for sure) so you've made it to 7/2 strafe

you could re-socket your giant skull with topazs or something, or get a new one if the ed/ias jewels are valuable to you or you could swap out cats eye for atmas and nos's out for razortail or something .. you have enough LL

gl

8/2 is the best a strafer can achieve....check out lieesa's new tables
i didn't really have a chance to look over the entire post but i do see one glaring omission...a favenfrost should be standard on almost all pit strafers

itsPizzarific
16-03-2005, 17:32
-_- you're right i didnt know that

u can still get a 7fpa multi or other "normal speed" attack right?

Euro-Crash
16-03-2005, 17:44
-_- you're right i didnt know that

u can still get a 7fpa multi or other "normal speed" attack right?

Yes it is possible to do this. However, the benefits of doing do not outweigh the sacrifices made to acheive this attack rate. In my situation, using a FAITH Grand Matron Bow, I would need 95% IAS to acheive a 7fps attack as opposed to the 50% IAS needed to reach the 8fps breakpoint. The difference is 3.5 attacks per second vs. 3.1 attacks per second.

I am not sure that this is a worthwile endeavor....the 95% IAS will require significant sacrifices just to attain the .4 attacks per second you would be lacking if you remained at 8fps. What's your take?

Bullet-Tooth Tony
17-03-2005, 07:09
Yes, if it's a Matriarchal bow, then the breakpoints are
18% (8 FPA) and 48% (7FPA) for normal/multishot and only 10% for 2-frame Strafe.
Anyway, I still recomend getting as much Crushing blow, as possible - even if you will have a 8-frame Multishot, and not 7-frame. A Guillaume's helm + Gore Riders, in my opinion, is far more useful, than Sandstorm and IAS/ED helm. Especially, after we've discovered, that you don't really need this IAS.

Euro-Crash
17-03-2005, 07:33
Yes, if it's a Matriarchal bow, then the breakpoints are
18% (8 FPA) and 48% (7FPA) for normal/multishot and only 10% for 2-frame Strafe.
Anyway, I still recomend getting as much Crushing blow, as possible - even if you will have a 8-frame Multishot, and not 7-frame. A Guillaume's helm + Gore Riders, in my opinion, is far more useful, than Sandstorm and IAS/ED helm. Especially, after we've discovered, that you don't really need this IAS.

Yup...CB would be nice. Also worth of mention, chance to cast amp...a merc equipped with Reaper's will remedy that situation. Another tasty mod to consider is OPEN WOUNDS. Ever seen what high level OPEN WOUNDS does? It is quite sexy...like poison except no cure.