Tell me your Multi/Strafe damage...

[MA_Sweden]

Hi all,

My amazon is at level 73 right now and have not that godly equipment, but I´m not that impressed by her damage she do with Strafe.

My hammerdin found a Windforce in Ancient Tunnels so she have a "good" bow.

My equipment are:

Windforce 6%
Harlequin Crest
Razortail
Natalyas Boots

That is what I have for her right now, but my damage is xxx - 1850 with Strafe and 275 dexterity.
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I want you to tell me:

Your equipment and dexterity and damage you do with Multi/Strafe, so I have a clue in what way to go.

I hope you take some time and help me.

Regards MA

[DudSpud]

My amazon is at level 73 right now and have not that godly equipment, but I´m not that impressed by her damage she do with Strafe ...xxx - 1850 with Strafe.

Ok, I am going to expose myself as a n00b here, but... I would be very happy with your strafe damage, with one caveat - that you are shooting at least at 9/2. For WF, this means (source (http://www.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=183692))...

10 WSM Bow
0% IAS 15/4
3% IAS 14/4
11% IAS 13/3
26% IAS 12/3
42% IAS 11/3
46% IAS 10/3
80% IAS 9/3
120% IAS 9/2
157% IAS 8/2

The idea is not to have huge damage per hit, but huge damage per second. With Strafe, you can get up to 10 arrows per cycle, and at a 9/2 (9 frames for first arrow, 2 frames x 9 for the rest) strafe, thats 10 x 1850 = 18,500 max damage / 27 frames (just under 1.1 sec). A 9/2 strafe is my recommendation, but I use less powerful bows. The best way I can see to get to a 9/2 strafe is - 20 on bow, shael it for 40. That leaves us 80 in the hole. 20 from gloves (LoH, Sanders), 10 from belt (gold wrap, nos coil), and 15 from a fervored jewel somewhere gives us 85, so we are already at the 9/3 bp. We can get 30 from Mavina's helm (45 with jewel), and 20 from upped Twitchthroe (35 if fervored), and we are done. Honorable mention goes to Andy's helm (20 IAS) and Stealskull Helm (10 IAS ), both of which can be fervored. You can replace some of the fervored jewels with ED jewels, or use IAS jewels and drop in a more desires piece of equipment. Also, remember that Sigon's gloves combined with any other piece (boots are nice) gives a total of 30 IAS.

This is only a partial list of possibilities - check out Shanksie's well written guide in the Stickies for other recommendations.

Additionally, you could use a might merc (NM A2 offensive) to up your damage (remember to check outside of town when he has got it active). Why use HF if you have knockback?

Your equipment and dexterity and damage you do with Multi/Strafe, so I have a clue in what way to go.

I have a lvl 74-ish WWS (2xshael) strafer shooting at 9/2, dex is 270-ish. My damage is approximately 300-800, more if I self-enchant with Hel'ed Demon Limb (from the fire damage, but it's mainly for AR bonus so each arrow hits - if you don't "feel" the killing power of a 9/2 WF, you probably aren't hitting often enough. Try the demon limb and more points into penetrate). I have several AR/max charms, and about 1-100 in lightning damage from LD/life, LD/res charms. Yes, I could do better, but I am in A2 Hell, and so far few problems.

Good luck,
DudSpud

[Euro-Crash]

Ok, I am going to expose myself as a n00b here, but... I would be very happy with your strafe damage, with one caveat - that you are shooting at least at 9/2. For WF, this means (source (http://www.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=183692))...

10 WSM Bow
0% IAS 15/4
3% IAS 14/4
11% IAS 13/3
26% IAS 12/3
42% IAS 11/3
46% IAS 10/3
80% IAS 9/3
120% IAS 9/2
157% IAS 8/2

The idea is not to have huge damage per hit, but huge damage per second. With Strafe, you can get up to 10 arrows per cycle, and at a 9/2 (9 frames for first arrow, 2 frames x 9 for the rest) strafe, thats 10 x 1850 = 18,500 max damage / 27 frames (just under 1.1 sec). A 9/2 strafe is my recommendation, but I use less powerful bows. The best way I can see to get to a 9/2 strafe is - 20 on bow, shael it for 40. That leaves us 80 in the hole. 20 from gloves (LoH, Sanders), 10 from belt (gold wrap, nos coil), and 15 from a fervored jewel somewhere gives us 85, so we are already at the 9/3 bp. We can get 30 from Mavina's helm (45 with jewel), and 20 from upped Twitchthroe (35 if fervored), and we are done. Honorable mention goes to Andy's helm (20 IAS) and Stealskull Helm (10 IAS ), both of which can be fervored. You can replace some of the fervored jewels with ED jewels, or use IAS jewels and drop in a more desires piece of equipment. Also, remember that Sigon's gloves combined with any other piece (boots are nice) gives a total of 30 IAS.

This is only a partial list of possibilities - check out Shanksie's well written guide in the Stickies for other recommendations.

Additionally, you could use a might merc (NM A2 offensive) to up your damage (remember to check outside of town when he has got it active). Why use HF if you have knockback?



I have a lvl 74-ish WWS (2xshael) strafer shooting at 9/2, dex is 270-ish. My damage is approximately 300-800, more if I self-enchant with Hel'ed Demon Limb (from the fire damage, but it's mainly for AR bonus so each arrow hits - if you don't "feel" the killing power of a 9/2 WF, you probably aren't hitting often enough. Try the demon limb and more points into penetrate). I have several AR/max charms, and about 1-100 in lightning damage from LD/life, LD/res charms. Yes, I could do better, but I am in A2 Hell, and so far few problems.

Good luck,
DudSpud

Level 87 Multi/LF/Magic/JAB Hybrid Zon
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Using FAITH Grand Matron Bow (lvl 14 Fanaticism)
Act II (NM Offensive) - MIGHT
470 Dexterity and counting!!!

Multi-shot damage is at 850-3500 (8fpa)
Magic is 950-3700 (8fpa)
Jab 900-3700 (5fpa)
LF 1-811 [26 bolts] (10fpa)

I am only disatisfied with boss killing. I am working on it though. I added JAB and I am re-equipping my merc with an Eth. Up'd Hone Sundan (BER+AMN+AMN), Eth. Fortitidue Wire Fleece, Guillame's Face (CHAM).

I am thinking that getting my merc to 100% Crushing Blow and about 3700 damage, and 14% LL with CBF is going to help out a ton.

[XZON]

My level 92 straffer

Strafe (physical only. excludes cold from ravenfrost or elemental from charms) = 414 - 4545

Winfdorce socketed with 15% ias / 30% ed jewel
level 23 strafe with 500 dex (softcore only)

andarials vissage (fervored) = 35% ias
Laying of hands = 20% ias
War Travlers
Ravenfrost x 2
Cats eye = 20% ias
Upped Goldwrap = 10% ias
Fortitude Archon

(120% ias = 9/2 strafe)
Annihilus Charm
10 to max damage from charms

350% ed to demons from laying of hands

This excludes enchant prebuff from demon limb, might or concentration from merc.

I have seen over 7,200 max strafe on char screen with my might merc (+4 all skills) and a high level pally in baal runs. (that number includes some elemental damage though)

Focus on dex and speed for damage. Fortitude is a bonus but almost all straffers use a might merc. War travlers are excellent as the 15-25 damage adds directly to the base bow damage for calculations. They add more like 150 min and 250 max to my total. When you factor the 350% ed to demons, they add another 39-65 which is not listed on char screen. I highly recommend war travlers and LOH for this build.

Actually, I recommend all of the gear above :)

[Wurmer]

With my faith level 12 ( ya bad roll really ) fanatiscim and my might merc I do around 2.7 K max and multi and around the same with straff.

Other gear:

Fortitude
45 ias Tiara soon to be replaced by mav's true sight with a 15 ias jewel
20 ISA KB gloves
Rare boots
High lord

My dexterity is rather low around 225-230

Talking about party mix, I had a very good Diablo run yesterday with a pally and a druid in it, Multi was doing over 9K damage which is awesome, just flatten everything in my path

[Dacar92]

My highest level is a level 86 FA/strafer wearing full Mav's set. Not the best gear for a strafer but I like her to to shine! FA= ~ 2000 dmg. Strafe= ~ 1700 dmg. I have been looking thru my gear to see what I can put on her to up her damage. But I want as much MF, too, for pit and Baal running and Mav's set gives 100% right there. But perhaps other gear would give more. She has about 200% total right now.

Any suggestions for good MF gear?

[XZON]

With my faith level 12 ( ya bad roll really ) fanatiscim and my might merc I do around 2.7 K max and multi and around the same with straff.

Other gear:

Fortitude
45 ias Tiara soon to be replaced by mav's true sight with a 15 ias jewel
20 ISA KB gloves
Rare boots
High lord

My dexterity is rather low around 225-230

Talking about party mix, I had a very good Diablo run yesterday with a pally and a druid in it, Multi was doing over 9K damage which is awesome, just flatten everything in my path

Get yourself some war travs my friend. Add around 200 to that max with those.

[Euro-Crash]

My highest level is a level 86 FA/strafer wearing full Mav's set. Not the best gear for a strafer but I like her to to shine! FA= ~ 2000 dmg. Strafe= ~ 1700 dmg. I have been looking thru my gear to see what I can put on her to up her damage. But I want as much MF, too, for pit and Baal running and Mav's set gives 100% right there. But perhaps other gear would give more. She has about 200% total right now.

Any suggestions for good MF gear?

Hmmm....

How about:

P. Stealskull [P.Topaz] (74mf)
Silence Hydra Bow (30mf)
Atma's Scarab (for AMP)
CoH Archon Plate (25mf)
Up'd Goldwrap (30mf)
P. War Traveler (50mf)
Ravenfrost
P. Nagel Ring (30mf)
P. Chanceguards (40mf)

The 20ias that comes on Silence brings you to the breakpoint for attack speed. There is another breakpoint at 120, but this is prohibitive of obtaining damage and MF. The resistances obtained from all quests and equipment above leave you 5% shy of MAX RESIST in Hell.

A Silence Hydra Bow may not be as speedy, but will pack a nice punch. I chose the CoH armor because it provides added damage to demons, MF and excellent resist (the +2 to skills is nice too). Atma's Scarab was used to acheive a greater edge in PvM to allow for greater killing speed despite a lower rate of fire.

All said and done this will net:

-70% resist all (easy to obtain max resist with charms)
-279 MF (easy to obtain 300% with charms)
-Chance to cast Amp Damage
-Cannot Be Frozen

I would say this is a viable selection of gear to MF with.

[Dacar92]

Hmmm....

How about:

P. Stealskull [P.Topaz] (74mf)
Silence Hydra Bow (30mf)
Atma's Scarab (for AMP)
CoH Archon Plate (25mf)
Up'd Goldwrap (30mf)
P. War Traveler (50mf)
Ravenfrost
P. Nagel Ring (30mf)
P. Chanceguards (40mf)

The 20ias that comes on Silence brings you to the breakpoint for attack speed. There is another breakpoint at 120, but this is prohibitive of obtaining damage and MF. The resistances obtained from all quests and equipment above leave you 5% shy of MAX RESIST in Hell.

A Silence Hydra Bow may not be as speedy, but will pack a nice punch. I chose the CoH armor because it provides added damage to demons, MF and excellent resist (the +2 to skills is nice too). Atma's Scarab was used to acheive a greater edge in PvM to allow for greater killing speed despite a lower rate of fire.

All said and done this will net:

-70% resist all (easy to obtain max resist with charms)
-279 MF (easy to obtain 300% with charms)
-Chance to cast Amp Damage
-Cannot Be Frozen

I would say this is a viable selection of gear to MF with.

Great suggestions, but I have neither a Ber nor a Vex to complete the runewords. I have to take the time to look thru my stuff to see what I can put together. I'll let you know later tonight.

[DudSpud]

...My highest level is a level 86 FA/strafer wearing full Mav's set. Not the best gear for a strafer but I like her to to shine! ...Any suggestions for good MF gear?

Dacar, I have the gear for you! Wearing the Full M'av's set means you only have ring, ammy, and boot slots open. For boots, might I suggest War Traveler's. They add 30-50% MF and have the bonus of +15-25 physical damage, which adds to the base of the bow before Dex/might multiples. As for the jewelry, I think you are probably better off with rare's and magic - I think the max is 15+25 on a ring and 15+30 on an amulet. Jewels max at 10%, and you could only socket two... So it looks like adding another 100% should be easy, 165% darn near impossible.

As for speed, you're at 70 IAS, which gives you a 10 frame FA and a 10/3 frame strafe. 10 more would shave an intial frame off of the strafe, but who cares? Frozen badies don't move so quick...

Good luck,
DudSpud

[Dacar92]

Dacar, I have the gear for you! Wearing the Full M'av's set means you only have ring, ammy, and boot slots open. For boots, might I suggest War Traveler's. They add 30-50% MF and have the bonus of +15-25 physical damage, which adds to the base of the bow before Dex/might multiples.

Got 'em. I just put them on her a few nights ago.


As for the jewelry, I think you are probably better off with rare's and magic - I think the max is 15+25 on a ring and 15+30 on an amulet. Jewels max at 10%, and you could only socket two... So it looks like adding another 100% should be easy, 165% darn near impossible.

I am using a nagel and ravenfrost right now. Ammy is Mahim-Oak. It has great + to dex and good resists, but no mf.


As for speed, you're at 70 IAS, which gives you a 10 frame FA and a 10/3 frame strafe. 10 more would shave an intial frame off of the strafe, but who cares? Frozen badies don't move so quick...

Good luck,
DudSpud


I can kill anything in hell with my FA, but it is mana intensive. I think I am going to go through my stuff and take off the Mav's. I am sure I can get greater killing speed with other equipment. Possibly more MF, to boot!

[XZON]

My highest level is a level 86 FA/strafer wearing full Mav's set. Not the best gear for a strafer but I like her to to shine! FA= ~ 2000 dmg. Strafe= ~ 1700 dmg. I have been looking thru my gear to see what I can put on her to up her damage. But I want as much MF, too, for pit and Baal running and Mav's set gives 100% right there. But perhaps other gear would give more. She has about 200% total right now.

Any suggestions for good MF gear?

Since you are willing to remove the mavinas, I have always been fond of tals helm/armor/belt combo. Excellent MF, resists, mana, life, 10% LL & ML and you can socket for 30% ias. Plus a purple zon looks kinda cool. Wish the mask was a diadem though.

[Euro-Crash]

Since you are willing to remove the mavinas, I have always been fond of tals helm/armor/belt combo. Excellent MF, resists, mana, life, 10% LL & ML and you can socket for 30% ias. Plus a purple zon looks kinda cool. Wish the mask was a diadem though.

Or at least a circlet.