Question on Dreamadin

[Bakerking31]

Ok, so i want to make a pally just for normal tombs and cows, i want a char that will kill extremely quickly, but wont kill king by accident, so i decided that a pally with dual dreams would probably work.

am i right that dual dreams is enough to kill cows in norm in 1-2 pulses? or does it take longer?

i want to use vigor so the person im lvling can lvl faster, so will i be able to kill the cows with no conviction on?

Skills wise, i believe i max all the synergies for holy shock right?

i dont think im missing anything, but if anyone has any more advice for this build i am welcome to new ideas, remember this guy is ONLY for norm tombs and cows, right now im using a high lvl druid for tombs and a LF javazon for cows, and i want someone just as fast at them that i can use for both.

[Sir SDG]

Ok, so i want to make a pally just for normal tombs and cows, i want a char that will kill extremely quickly, but wont kill king by accident, so i decided that a pally with dual dreams would probably work.

am i right that dual dreams is enough to kill cows in norm in 1-2 pulses? or does it take longer?

i want to use vigor so the person im lvling can lvl faster, so will i be able to kill the cows with no conviction on?

Skills wise, i believe i max all the synergies for holy shock right?

i dont think im missing anything, but if anyone has any more advice for this build i am welcome to new ideas, remember this guy is ONLY for norm tombs and cows, right now im using a high lvl druid for tombs and a LF javazon for cows, and i want someone just as fast at them that i can use for both.

Ive ran my dreamadin through NIGHTMARE cows and solo they dont get close enough to hit... in a Full game in norm you wonte even see them die... BUT keep charge handy to run away if you spawn in kings area.hes usually light immune until conv hits him so you may make it away without killing him


in norm ... dang near everything dies from pulses before u cant hit it with both auradin builds... in NM u can pretty much walk about and smoke everything the same.

I dont know if no conv will make any difference I kinda doubt that conv on will even hit them before the holy shock doesn anyhow. ( everything dies before I get close so im assuming that 13.5 range on conv never goes into effect)



so for that matter you could feasibly run ANY pally with vigor with dual dreams and give it a try. I think even without the synergy the 30 holy shock would be enough to clear norm cows and tomb rather easy.

[Bakerking31]

so for that matter you could feasibly run ANY pally with vigor with dual dreams and give it a try. I think even without the synergy the 30 holy shock would be enough to clear norm cows and tomb rather easy.

good thinkin, i got a spare old hammerdin on one of my accounts i can jus try givin him 2 dreams and see if he can do it in a 8 player norm game since hes already got max vigor.

thanks SDG

EDIT only reason i dont wanna use a torchadin for this is because i think i have alot better chance of killing king on accident since king is always light immune.

[Bakerking31]

i jus tried 2 dreams on my old charger (was only pally i had with enough str and max vigor) he kills the cows but not too fast, i think i really do need to make a pally jus for it iwth max synergies.

[Mr.Popo]

go something like this:

20 charge
20 vigor
20 might
20 light resist aura
rest goes to fanaticsim or holy shield (if ur using one)

very simple with double dream and use might aura. ur merc use thorn or holy freeze. (slow down the cow and ez for u to charge on them) use vigor to run away whenever appopriate.

[Sir SDG]

go something like this:

20 charge
20 vigor
20 might
20 light resist aura
rest goes to fanaticsim or holy shield (if ur using one)

very simple with double dream and use might aura. ur merc use thorn or holy freeze. (slow down the cow and ez for u to charge on them) use vigor to run away whenever appopriate.

hehe even in full games in normal .. cows die before u even see them on map... your not gonna have to sweat a whole lot about fanat or HF.

just dreams and max light res should do the trick right nice.

BUT the thing with holy shock is its VERY variable aka 1-5000 etc etc.


you COULD plausibly have a REALLY bad hair day and pulse ONE pnt of damage all day.

[Bakerking31]

i jus plan on gettin somethin like max light resist aura, max sal, max vigor and thats probably it, that will be about the lvl where i can use the dreams and i shouldnt have a prob killin the cows with that.

[Sir SDG]

i jus plan on gettin somethin like max light resist aura, max sal, max vigor and thats probably it, that will be about the lvl where i can use the dreams and i shouldnt have a prob killin the cows with that.

IMO if you not makin the build for anything other than lvling in norm cows theres not a whole lotta reason to do much more than what your talking....

BTW damn cool thougt to make a dedicated char to lvling. Ive debated offering a lvling service based on using these builds to get ppl to 60 ish with NM cows. but im just too lazy for it, I can barely muster the energy to lvl and rush my own charicters.

[Bakerking31]

IMO if you not makin the build for anything other than lvling in norm cows theres not a whole lotta reason to do much more than what your talking....

BTW damn cool thougt to make a dedicated char to lvling. Ive debated offering a lvling service based on using these builds to get ppl to 60 ish with NM cows. but im just too lazy for it, I can barely muster the energy to lvl and rush my own charicters.

lol i actually do run a lvlin service right now, and the hardest part is lvls 1-25, this might jus make it a bit easier. and the best part ... i wont need him into hell to get to the lvls we need to use dream, so i wont have to rush him through hell.

[d2 junkie]

lol i actually do run a lvlin service right now, and the hardest part is lvls 1-25, this might jus make it a bit easier. and the best part ... i wont need him into hell to get to the lvls we need to use dream, so i wont have to rush him through hell.

ok a couple facts on leveling;
1.- 1-45 is the easiest part of leveling as long as you know what you are doing.
takes me 2 hrs to get to that level, using an enchantress and a BO barb.
2.- If you are worried about the king,there is 2 things that you must know, the char you are leveling can kill the king without a problem if he hasnt finish that difficulty level,and if the char that made the cow portal doesnt come into the cow level.
3.- your leveling chars dont gain as much experience leeching from higher level chars as they do from what they kill themselves.
5.- 5 player games are better to level low level chars than 8 player games.
Anyway is late and Iam tired hope this helps.
*D2_junkie

[riath]

ok a couple facts on leveling;
5.- 5 player games are better to level low level chars than 8 player games.
Anyway is late and Iam tired hope this helps.
*D2_junkie

I thought that is was that the best hp/exp ratio was at 5 players. So, if you can kill just as fast at 8 players as you can at 5 players, there is nothing better about 5. Is this correct?

[Bakerking31]

jus finished him, he works great, cows are dying before i see them in some cases, jus wish the pulses were a little closer togather, but thats ok. ty for all the help

[Sir SDG]

jus finished him, he works great, cows are dying before i see them in some cases, jus wish the pulses were a little closer togather, but thats ok. ty for all the helphehe np.. both my auradins wish the same..

if only FCR made pulses fire off like a gatling gun........... muahaha

[Death_Frog]

IMO, i wouldnt just make him to do norm cows... i would make him to be able to tackle hell with ease, and to be able to pvp great. He would still be able to kill norm cows just as fast.

[Sir SDG]

IMO, i wouldnt just make him to do norm cows... i would make him to be able to tackle hell with ease, and to be able to pvp great. He would still be able to kill norm cows just as fast.

hell cows are a different matter... it takes a few pulses to kill them and you tend to end up having to zeal away on packs ( with dreams its kinda nice w the CTC confuse on gettin hit.) its not near as fast a cow killer in hell as the all smoking Light zon or orb sorc variants.

Id think had they not gotten greatly nerfed in the patch, yes wouldnt be a problem for an auradin to walk through and pulse kill cows. ( but now theyre life is MAJOR high )