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Tastychiken_europe
12-03-2005, 23:49
Hi! Im doing a Liberator on Nl europe.
I was going to ask for some gear suggestions and stuff just to be sure.
This is what im planning on using:
Helm: Shako
Armor: Archon Stone or some other good armor
Boot's: Waterwalk's
Shield: Ss?
Shield2: Hoz
Weapon: Some Good Cheap Weapon
Weapon2: Wizard Spike
Ring1: Bk
Ring2: Ravenfrost
Belt: Verdungos
Amulet: Highlord's Wrath
Charm's: Life And Ar smallcharm's
And against high def im thinking of angelic combo
And im planning on using this skills:
20 Charge
20 Hammers
20 Vigor
20 Concentration
1 Holy shield
rest in Blessed Aim
Tastychiken_europe
13-03-2005, 11:06
Hi! Im doing a Liberator on Nl europe.
I was going to ask for some gear suggestions and stuff just to be sure.
This is what im planning on using:
Helm: Shako
Armor: Archon Stone or some other good armor
Boot's: Waterwalk's
Shield: Ss?
Shield2: Hoz
Weapon: Some Good Cheap Weapon
Weapon2: Wizard Spike
Ring1: Bk
Ring2: Ravenfrost
Belt: Verdungos
Amulet: Highlord's Wrath
Charm's: Life And Ar smallcharm's
And against high def im thinking of angelic combo
And im planning on using this skills:
20 Charge
20 Hammers
20 Vigor
20 Concentration
1 Holy shield
rest in Blessed Aim
Im lvl 37 right now.
i muled some of the stuff that he should wear, But please come with weapon suggestions atleast.
//cheers Tastychiken
WuffWhacker
26-03-2005, 23:27
I'm L72 and wanted to make a dedicated hammerdin, but switched to charge halfway through (after maxing only Concentration and 1 point in Hammers) - ended up with this:
Paladin L72
Rockstopper helm
Shaftstop armor
Verdungoes belt
Angelic amulet/ring/ring
Sander's boots (poor choice)
Cleglaws/Sanders gloves
Spirit Runeword in a +41 res-all Sacred Targe shield
Lacerator winged axe (for smiting/weak charges)
Headstriker conquest sword with 36%ED/+13 max damage jewel
115-600 Amn/Hel Bonehew on switch (stole it from a merc)
~8 Might
20 Concentration
20 Charge
20 Vigor
1 in Salvation, Meditation, prereqs.
Smites up to 600 with Lacerator (1200 when Amp goes off)
Charges up to 2.5K with Lacerator (and shield - 5K when amp goes off)
Charges up to 4.5K with Headstriker (and shield)
Charges up to 10K with Bonehew
AR of 13.5K with Angelics - haven't had to try Hsarus' yet.
The Lacerator is a fun weapon. It's amusing to hit someone with it who doesn't know about running affecting block/defense, then switch to the bonehew and charge them. :) Ker-pow.
Tastychiken_europe
27-03-2005, 11:23
Yup but... why do u smite?? :S. with 600 dmg it seems pretty useless besides from the stun but, u one pointed it.
My beloved Libby is using this right now
Oblivions_palla lvl 71
Helm: Shako "Shael"
Armor: Shaftstop
Boots: Waterwalks
Hammer side: Hoto (got it for a jalalas ^^)
Hammer side Shield: Lidless "P.Diamond"
Charge Side: Light Sabre (im getting something better, Suggestions?)
Charge Side Shield: Steelclash
Amulet: HighLords
Rings: Both rare one with 6-9 all res (seperate mods) and str mana etc, one with 10% fcr and str res mana. (getting raven, chill )
Gloves: Frostburns (mana...)
Belt: SnakeCORD!!! (getting T.Gods (need that Str bonus..)
Charms: 1 Offensive and 1 large charm with 6 max dmg and 22 ar (found it and it gives me alot dmg :D.
life: 1k
Dmg Hammers: 3k
Dmg Charge: 2.3k
Block: 75% offcourse
Def: Well i cant afford combats as lovely could so my def = Sucks :D
But the funniest i have right now is my smite/throw paladin, i smite the ones i duell alot until halflife, they think they can get away running, i switch and throw at em ^^, they die beacuse of the ow i have and that there defence drops to 0.
//cheers Tasty
WuffWhacker
27-03-2005, 17:55
Smite ignores defense, so it "always" hits. Lacerator has a 33% chance of casting Amp damage, wich doubles physical damage done. That makes the 600 smite a bit more respectable 1200 smite. All for one point. I usually smite folks that walk around with 75 block and high defense - often I lose, especially if they have life tap. OTOH, if Amp goes off early, which it usually does, then I often win, unless totally outclassed in terms of gear.
Speaking of life tap, I can't remember why I didn't pull out my shopped bone wand with L5 LT charges for the "I can't help it, it's my Exile" smiters. :) Of course, I'd then have to switch to a different smite weapon, and since I haven't made a Passion phase blade yet, the only other fast weapon I have is the General's flail... :P
Tastychiken_europe
27-03-2005, 18:04
Make a steel :D its does wonders on those running sorcs with the ow.
oh yea i pwnd a lvl 89 v/t today..
im lvl 77 with right now
3.5k hammers
2.6k charge
and 1.1k life :D
he kept saying he takes me down easy when he did so once ^^.
i negotiated hes foh so he kept trying to smite me then he got a charge or hammer in his face.
my negotiation switch contains light sabre and a 175 light res shield ^^.
that is also my charge side.
and i got even score with a doom smiter/charger. that was a fun fight and he was a great player, lvl 91 i think.
Now i see the true power of the Liberator, thanks lovely :) to bad no1 else makes a libby.
WuffWhacker
27-03-2005, 18:14
As for one-handed charge weapons, I can't think of a better one (aside from rediculous runewords) than an upgraded Headstriker. That sword was a rocking weapon for a PvM sorc's barbarian merc, but it also is a rocking one-handed charge weapon. At my pally's current level, its listed damage is 105-247 with Deadly Strike at 109%.
That means it is a 210-474 damage one-handed weapon. :) Note that it does have a jewel in it. Come to think of it, that should put it on par, damage-wise, with even non-ethereal superior BoTD/Grief berserker axes and the like. It's a slow weapon, but then all weapons are the same speed when used with Charge.
ArchAngel Tiberrius
27-03-2005, 18:23
I am unsure if you'll be dueling with this character, but I will assume so.
Silence Phaseblade
This is a great option for smiting, +2 Skills, Resists et al. If memory serves me it will also be reasonably fast due to the Phaseblade.
Astreon's
Great option.
+ Slow Target
+ Damage
Crushing Blow
Not sure how fast it would be however. The only down side, to duel you would need to find a replacement.
Stormlash
This weapon is fast, very fast. It also has:
- CtC Static Field (quickly goes through hitpoints)
- Crushing Blow
Redeemer
Not sure about the speed, but the + Damage modifier makes it a good choice.
For your charge, Stormlash and Death Cleaver are good options.
Tastychiken_europe
27-03-2005, 21:18
Yea but Steel Is also good for handling runners if u have a switch aura like Holy freeze, holy shock or holy fire.
I know some ppl that uses steel with doom
they just have to charge behind the runners and poof ^^
ArcaneLegend
28-03-2005, 02:09
i negotiated hes foh so he kept trying to smite me then he got a charge or hammer in his face.
my negotiation switch contains light sabre and a 175 light res shield ^^.
that is also my charge side.
i hope u meant "negation" :D .
i find it odd that u beat that v/t so easily, considering how low ur dmgs and life are. good job nonetheless.
i'm deciding between remaking my v/t, or starting a liberator (it's SO tempting). i'm a little concerned about attack rating though.
Tastychiken_europe
28-03-2005, 12:27
i hope u meant "negation" :D .
i find it odd that u beat that v/t so easily, considering how low ur dmgs and life are. good job nonetheless.
i'm deciding between remaking my v/t, or starting a liberator (it's SO tempting). i'm a little concerned about attack rating though.
my ar is low i agree but you wont star charging at some1 that stands still if u dont want to get them to run after you.. wich is quite easy in pubby's.
And on that V/T line it was hard but i had light sabre 20% Lightning absorb and 175 light res shield wich made him go into meele, and when he was close enough he got hammered and when e stared to run i charged at him and u saw the magic dmg on ls beating the **** out of him :D, btw azn its all about tactic offense when high life defense when low life and if he runs go offense etc etc. but against a v/t i would recomend light sabre, his foh's did 54 dmg i think. his smite was scary though :P,
i started a V/T once and i was bored before act3 ^^ the Libby kept me happy all the way too hell baalruns and are still doing it.
the funniest line i ever got was this one btw:
Hey u Oblivion!
me - yes?
why u hammer lame?
me - What?
Why u hammer lame i take u in real meele combat
me - i charged u until u ran and then i charged in front of u and did one hammer?
yes why u hammer lame?
me - lol
i hate hammers
they are lame
me - so?
hammers are lame
i hate
cyaaaa!
How weird is that??
jordy666
28-03-2005, 12:50
Tastychiken_europe, ur on europe right ?
a liberator seems fun to play, but i first i have to equip my firedruid/zealot/ww-sin and my fury druid :D
-jordy :rolleyes:
Tastychiken_europe
28-03-2005, 13:43
Tastychiken_europe, ur on europe right ?
a liberator seems fun to play, but i first i have to equip my firedruid/zealot/ww-sin and my fury druid :D
-jordy :rolleyes:
Oh No!! my secret identity!! i play on europe its true :'(.
Haha :P nice setup jordy.. my setup of duellers is a bit different btw :D.
Liberator/Daggermancer/Smite&throw/ThrowBarb
:P my fireclaw druid failed beacuse of low life (1.7k [lol])
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