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FlyingPerson
11-03-2005, 16:49
Hi All:

I am building a PvM ww Barb right now, lvl 75 but with tons of skill pts left
I am thinking to distribute the skill pts like the following:

20 WW
20 BO
20 Shout
20 Iron Skin
7 weapon mastery
1 Berserk
4 Natural Resist


Thanks for any advise:)

mastershizzle
11-03-2005, 19:44
Hi All:

I am building a PvM ww Barb right now, lvl 75 but with tons of skill pts left
I am thinking to distribute the skill pts like the following:

20 WW
20 BO
20 Shout
20 Iron Skin
7 weapon mastery
1 Berserk
4 Natural Resist


Thanks for any advise:)

overall it looks good, if your landing ur hits and doing ok dmg. Otherwise I'd suggest ironskin/mastry switch...my experience defense is most needed in pvp then pvm and even then ar is more important. also with maxd mastry u would get 22% chance of critical strike instead of 14%.

FlyingPerson
11-03-2005, 21:23
Thanks.

hmm....even I summed up all the skill points above, its not full yet (if i dont put 20 on both Ironskin and Masteries)

For example, if i put 20 on Masteries instead of IronSkin.....and since def is not that important in PvM compare PvP...where should I put rest of skill point?
Berserk?

Is it better to use Berserk when facing Act Boss? (Since I believe those act boss must be Ignore Target Defense, then I dont need the def) or the WW still the KING?

Or I just simply depends on personal like put whereever else for fun?
FOR EXAMPLE: Find Item......Increase Speed...? those sounds reli....kinda feel waste

mastershizzle
11-03-2005, 21:50
hmm for strait pvm im not completely sure. Could use fun skills as im not sure how much extra in zerk would really help. Tho zerk is really nice as iron maiden has no affect on it since its 100% magic dmg, but then u also dont leech so gota watch that too hehe.

Maybe leap to stun monsters? (just throwing stuff out there hehe)

and ya zerk is best for act bosses for the most part

FlyingPerson
11-03-2005, 21:59
Hmm...Thanks a lot~~ Guess i will go with Zerk then....

Halciet
12-03-2005, 02:26
Perhaps you should read one of the four whirlwind build guides we have in the guide sticky. They should answer your questions.

The general whirl build is 20 WW, 20 BO, 20 Shout, 20 Mastery, leftovers into ironskin. Do not pump two combat skills; you're only going to be using one the majority of the time, so the other points are wasted. Get something perpetually useful. With 1 berserk and 20 shout, you're already doing plenty of berserk damage. Mastery will add more damage, ar, and critical strike chance.

-Hal

edit: damnit, typos in my rage! :D

rikstaker
12-03-2005, 08:59
The general whirl build is 20 WW, 20 BO, 20 Shout, 20 Ironskin, leftovers into ironskin.

-Hal

:scratch:

20 mastery,leftovers into ironskin,I guess. :p

@flying person;Use ww on bosses untill you run out of mana.WW helps cb triggers go off more frequently due to its speed & cb shortens boss fights significantly,zerk to remove the remaining embers of life.

Rik

Halciet
12-03-2005, 18:58
Lol, good catch brother; my mind is getting boggled in my frustration that no one reads the stickies anymore ;)

-Hal

FlyingPerson
14-03-2005, 19:01
@Halciet: I did read about the WW guide, but just feel it doesnt suited me well...thats why I ask in here. Right now, I really would prefer more skill pts in Berserk rather than ironskin while fighting baal or diablo. Maybe its my item sucks (Full-Ik-set) in compare to those godly runeword, but 13k AR for my WW is reli not hitting baal or diablo much. If not bcz Berserk, (I got 18k AR from Berserk) I had been a dead meat lots of time in front of diablo and baal.

Anyway..thx guys...ur advices help a lot

Halciet
14-03-2005, 20:44
My apologies if i came off rather harsh, FP. I've just been growing increasingly irritated because people have been asking questions that we have answered many a times, without bothering to check the guides or use the search function.

Good luck with the barb.

-Hal

rikstaker
15-03-2005, 08:11
@Halciet: I did read about the WW guide, but just feel it doesnt suited me well...thats why I ask in here. Right now, I really would prefer more skill pts in Berserk rather than ironskin while fighting baal or diablo. Maybe its my item sucks (Full-Ik-set) in compare to those godly runeword, but 13k AR for my WW is reli not hitting baal or diablo much. If not bcz Berserk, (I got 18k AR from Berserk) I had been a dead meat lots of time in front of diablo and baal.

Anyway..thx guys...ur advices help a lot

baal has 55% block rate,so I wouldnt say the gear sucks or my ar is low,IK set is pretty sturdy & fully endgame capable & 13k ar is excellent for pvm.

Rik