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martini88
10-03-2005, 10:52
hey. im trying to build a wolf baba. advices would help
im going for this right now:
20mace mastery
20nat. res.
20bo
20speed
equip:
2x baranar mace
wolfhowl helm
?atmas amu or angelic? (suggestions??) i know theyre not so good but i cant afford anything right now
(not sure what armor, maybe gladiators bane or upped shaftstop)
angelic ring and manald (for mana steal)
havent decided gloves yet
now i use infernostride boots (will be changed as he is just lv 47)
-martini88 [soppen88@gmail.com]
Chimaira
10-03-2005, 11:14
Hello...I'm not an expert on Wolf Barbs, I just want to say you should NOT put 20pts in natural resists and increased speed... They have serious diminishing returns and although 4-8 pts in natural resists would be nice only 1 in speed.. as it is more of a luxury thing... unles you PvP and specialise in running. Maybe Iron skin or shout to boost defence? As for equipment, I'd keep the Gladiator's Bane since you don't seem to have any Cannot Be Frozen, and it's a good all round armour. If wolfbarbs are anything like regular shifters, then they need a very fast weapon, because only Increased attack speed on weapon counts... although for a wolfbarb I don't really know... Also I don't think you can dual wield while shifted since you use Feral Rage to attack, although I'm not sure.. Baranar's is a nice Druid weapon. hope this helps a bit.
sheepe2004
10-03-2005, 17:13
hey. im trying to build a wolf baba. advices would help
im going for this right now:
20mace mastery
20nat. res.
20bo
20speed
equip:
2x baranar mace
wolfhowl helm
?atmas amu or angelic? (suggestions??) i know theyre not so good but i cant afford anything right now
(not sure what armor, maybe gladiators bane or upped shaftstop)
angelic ring and manald (for mana steal)
havent decided gloves yet
now i use infernostride boots (will be changed as he is just lv 47)
-martini88 [soppen88@gmail.com]
20 increased speed and natural resists are a huge waste since they both have diminishing returns. You wont get much more from level 20 than level 1.
Those extra points would be better in shout and iron skin to boost defence.
I would recommend putting on a ravenfrost instead of the manald and wearing the upped shaft. Theres also no point dual wielding since you can only use one weapon anyway, either get a shield or use a nice 2h weapon (ribcracker is cheap and has nice damage, speed and crazy crushing blow).
Angelic would be good if you really need more ar otherwise i'd try highlords or a high resists ammy with a raven.
RetroStar
10-03-2005, 17:25
I suggest the following skills for MOST barbs.
MAX Mastery (your case Mace)
MAX Bo
MAX Shout
Rest into Iron Skin
martini88
10-03-2005, 17:52
ty for the advice guys... i already have 6pts in nat res and 2 in speed.
so next iron skin and shout :D
Sint Nikolaas
10-03-2005, 20:58
You can't dual wield while in wolf form, get yourself a good shield and try to get max block.
''Mil & Sam''
I am also building one and mace mastery, bo, shout and iron skin are the skills I am maxing.
Diabolico x64
11-03-2005, 06:04
You can't dual wield while in wolf form, get yourself a good shield and try to get max block.
''Mil & Sam''
Yes you can.
Mine uses a maxed BO, Shout, Iron Skin, and Mace Mastery, as others have said. The rest of the points went into Nat Resists, only as much as I could get before severe diminishing returns (after all equipment is on). The rest I still have no spent, but I suppose BC would be the best choice, for greater duration.
Equipment:
4-Shael Gris caddy
Stone Archon
SS
Wolfhowl
Angelic ammy/dual rings
Verdungo's
Gores
Crafted CB/life/some stats gloves
Mang Song's staff on switch
Demon Limb in the stash (for the enchant)
I attack at 4 FPA, which is why I don't need any CBF.
As soon as the ladder resets, I have a Fortitude already made for this guy. Maybe if I'm lucky, a Phoenix as well.
chinokix06
11-03-2005, 09:24
Yes you can.
Mine uses a maxed BO, Shout, Iron Skin, and Mace Mastery, as others have said. The rest of the points went into Nat Resists, only as much as I could get before severe diminishing returns (after all equipment is on). The rest I still have no spent, but I suppose BC would be the best choice, for greater duration.
Equipment:
4-Shael Gris caddy
Stone Archon
SS
Wolfhowl
Angelic ammy/dual rings
Verdungo's
Gores
Crafted CB/life/some stats gloves
Mang Song's staff on switch
Demon Limb in the stash (for the enchant)
I attack at 4 FPA, which is why I don't need any CBF.
As soon as the ladder resets, I have a Fortitude already made for this guy. Maybe if I'm lucky, a Phoenix as well.
im currently making one on L im not sure if i wanna use the points into pheonix tho, because of how low the block is and how much dex i would need to get max block, but my setup is as follows:
15%sup sacred fort/ or a 15% archon fort havent decided if i want to use the str
6/6/3 11/12/10 eth wolfhowl
3/6/6 non eth for precast
2x 31 res hotos for precast
perf str/ll/def dracs
15/15 treks *might use gores*
shael'd ss
20 stat 12 res anni
40/15 dungo
angelics
I still need:
9x 5% fhr scs
10x bmastery gcs with 35+ life
he's not built yet im going to lvl him tommarow.
Chimaira
11-03-2005, 11:20
How exactly does dual wield work on a wolf barb... Don't you use Feral Rage when attacking?? That sounds totally weird.
Diabolico x64
11-03-2005, 13:23
im currently making one on L im not sure if i wanna use the points into pheonix tho, because of how low the block is and how much dex i would need to get max block, but my setup is as follows:
15%sup sacred fort/ or a 15% archon fort havent decided if i want to use the str
6/6/3 11/12/10 eth wolfhowl
3/6/6 non eth for precast
2x 31 res hotos for precast
perf str/ll/def dracs
15/15 treks *might use gores*
shael'd ss
20 stat 12 res anni
40/15 dungo
angelics
I still need:
9x 5% fhr scs
10x bmastery gcs with 35+ life
he's not built yet im going to lvl him tommarow.
If I would get a Phoenix, I would definately not max block for that, and not completely replace the SS with it. I only needed Phoenix for opponents with which I don't need a shield, like Smiters and casters. It would be basically the same as using a high-damage two-handed weapon, except two-handed weapons can't reach the 4 FPA that I need.
Also, I tried a setup with mastery skillers, and then one with max, ar, and life charms (together and seperate), and the latter worked better.
How exactly does dual wield work on a wolf barb... Don't you use Feral Rage when attacking?? That sounds totally weird.
You don't HAVE to use Feral Rage. Though I don't remember whether I used normal attack or Feral Rage, I do clearly remember him attacking with both paws when dual-weilding.
You don't HAVE to use Feral Rage. Though I don't remember whether I used normal attack or Feral Rage, I do clearly remember him attacking with both paws when dual-weilding.
Even a druid shows an animation that attack with both paws that means nothing.
Diabolico x64
11-03-2005, 18:33
Even a druid shows an animation that attack with both paws that means nothing.
Well I don't know then. You can equip two weapons at one time, but I don't know if it'll attack with both of them. I'm pretty sure it shows the damage/ar of both weapons in the char screen. I suppose I can test this by equipping one weapon with cold damage and another with life leech or something of that sort, and seeing if they both work.
Easiest way to verify would be by checking durability, I think.
Personally I'd advise against dual-wielding anyways, the AR, damage, and life leech in PvM are simply too good to turn up.
Diabolico x64
11-03-2005, 22:43
']Easiest way to verify would be by checking durability, I think.
Good idea. I just tested it out, and apparently you can dual-weild weapons in wereform after all. However, you'll only be using only one, with both Feral Rage and normal attack.
Good idea. I just tested it out, and apparently you can dual-weild weapons in wereform after all. However, you'll only be using only one, with both Feral Rage and normal attack.
Thatts what I thought, for a while I was thinking for using a fast weapon like the gris as main weapon and then something like a silence as a second weapon for the res, +2 skill etc.
Diabolico x64
12-03-2005, 19:27
Thatts what I thought, for a while I was thinking for using a fast weapon like the gris as main weapon and then something like a silence as a second weapon for the res, +2 skill etc.
Yeah, that'll work. I know that some normal WW barbs use a Wizspike sometimes vs. casters, as their second weapon.
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