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Shino888
04-03-2005, 17:49
Basically the title explains itself. I'm trying to make an mf blizzard sorc that can kill mephisto fast enough, while mainting a high mf. My gear right now is:

Topaz Shako
Tal ammy
Tal Armor
6 isted sword
4 isted monarch
Tal belt
2xsoj
(dunno gloves)
war travs

any suggestions?

mhl12
04-03-2005, 21:12
if u want pure mf setup:

2 ist ali baba. (6 ists is waste and u would have less mf in the end)
p topaz shako
upped goldwrap
perfect chancies
2x perfect mf nagels
wartravs
maras
"splendor" runeword for shield
enigma breastplate

also 40% gheeds charm

p.s. this might be overdoing it, so switch some mf items w/ actuall "killing" items to kill meph effectively

mathil
04-03-2005, 22:16
i'm going to agree with mhl12 to a point.

throwing all those ists around is expensive and doesn't give you much more mf. tals set is pretty good, but you can do better.

here is where i disagree: 2 isted ali baba is expensive. it costs atleast 2 ists. enigma and maras aren't cheap iether.

my mf sorc uses:

ptopazed shako
goldwrap
chancies
war travs
gull dagger (if you can't get the 2 ists for the baba, its the next best thing)
"rhyme" shield (25 mf as opposed to "splendor"'s 20)
29 nagel, 38 mf magical ring (i chanced upon one of these while gambling)
maras (something i also found, im probably guna switch it with a tals to use maras on someone better)
ptopazed skullder's ire

i take care of killing by using a weapon switch: occy/spirit. that gives me 63 fcr on switch to teleport and +5 skills. it also has res and a little mf.

i have no problem handling mephy with the moat trick. granted this is a meteorb sorc, but the process is the same. the only thing i don't like is that meph kills my insight wielding merc every time, so i have to go without him. i really don't like using mana potions.

disclaimer: the casters i build are fragile, especially when i have teleport. while this setup works for me, i have friends who wouldn't make it half way to meph with my character. so you may want to change out some mf stuff for more stuff that keeps you alive and adds killing power.

~mathil

Shino888
05-03-2005, 04:07
I've already got a 6 isted sword. So i see no need to get a 2 isted baba (which i also have). And doesnt my 4 isted monarch give more mf than rhyme and splendor?

Also, i think tal armor, belt and ammy is a better setup than skulldurs, maras, and goldwrap:
Topazed tal armor gives 112 mf and belt gives 15. With the ammy on, you get a 65 mf bonus. This gives you 192 mf.
However, (saying ur level 90) with topazed skulldurs, maras, and goldwrap, u only get 136 mf.

mhl12
05-03-2005, 16:43
I've already got a 6 isted sword. So i see no need to get a 2 isted baba (which i also have). And doesnt my 4 isted monarch give more mf than rhyme and splendor?

Also, i think tal armor, belt and ammy is a better setup than skulldurs, maras, and goldwrap:
Topazed tal armor gives 112 mf and belt gives 15. With the ammy on, you get a 65 mf bonus. This gives you 192 mf.
However, (saying ur level 90) with topazed skulldurs, maras, and goldwrap, u only get 136 mf.

u already got a 6 isted sword??? holy crap.. no offense but most ppl would think thats over doing it and a waste. the 3 main mf weapons for a sorc are 2 isted alibaba, gull dagger, or occy. same w/ a 4 isted monarch. it gives u more mf but only more mf. rhyme and splendor gives u other mods like much needed resists.

true ur tal combo gives u more mf but lacks some other important mods like resists. its important to have at least positive resists in hell b/c u will die quickly if u dont. but the choice is up to u.

in the end, u have to remember that u need to balance ur mf with more killing power. have 500-600% mf wont do u any good if u die on all ur meph runs.

mathil: ali baba does not cost 2 ists. an unsocketed one costs maybe lum-fal on ladder.

Shino888
05-03-2005, 17:13
u already got a 6 isted sword??? holy crap.. no offense but most ppl would think thats over doing it and a waste. the 3 main mf weapons for a sorc are 2 isted alibaba, gull dagger, or occy. same w/ a 4 isted monarch. it gives u more mf but only more mf. rhyme and splendor gives u other mods like much needed resists.

true ur tal combo gives u more mf but lacks some other important mods like resists. its important to have at least positive resists in hell b/c u will die quickly if u dont. but the choice is up to u.

in the end, u have to remember that u need to balance ur mf with more power. have 500-600% mf wont do u any good if u die on all ur meph runs.

mathil: ali baba does not cost 2 ists. an unsocketed one costs maybe lum-fal on ladder.

what you say is true about balancing mf with power, but you also hafta remember wuts the point of meph if you're not gonna get anything good.
Also, i really dont see how you can die on meph. Most people stand in front of him without moving and shoot the crap out of him until he dies, which will probably get u killed. However, if you treat it like a PvP, then it's actually pretty easy to kill him.

mhl12
05-03-2005, 17:36
what you say is true about balancing mf with power, but you also hafta remember wuts the point of meph if you're not gonna get anything good.
Also, i really dont see how you can die on meph. Most people stand in front of him without moving and shoot the crap out of him until he dies, which will probably get u killed. However, if you treat it like a PvP, then it's actually pretty easy to kill him.

in pvp.. u r usually fighting against only 1 opponent (2 if someone wants to cheat)

however, in hell meph, u have packs of blood lords (immune to cold) and council members (some immune to cold) plus meph to worry about. if u dont have enough fcr and resists, u will die.

mathil
05-03-2005, 22:42
a 2 isted baba has to cost more than 2 ists. i think anyways.

i guess then that the advice you were looking for was... kill meph a lot?

Shino888
05-03-2005, 22:58
in pvp.. u r usually fighting against only 1 opponent (2 if someone wants to cheat)

however, in hell meph, u have packs of lords (immune to cold) and council members (some immune to cold) plus meph to worry about. if u dont have enough fcr and resists, u will die.

usually those guys are on the sides somewhere. I've only seen them come in and interfere a few times. Plus my light radius is really low so i have to get pretty close to them before they start coming for them.

mhl12
06-03-2005, 01:25
usually those guys are on the sides somewhere. I've only seen them come in and interfere a few times. Plus my light radius is really low so i have to get pretty close to them before they start coming for them.

not really. normal monsters are generated randomly in different areas throughout the game. also having a low light radius does not mean that they cant see u; it only means that u cant see them.

also ur build has 0% fcr so u probably most likely will not make it to lvl 3 in the first place.

Shino888
06-03-2005, 19:01
not really. normal monsters are generated randomly in different areas throughout the game. also having a low light radius does not mean that they cant see u; it only means that u cant see them.

also ur build has 0% fcr so u probably most likely will not make it to lvl 3 in the first place.

low light radius measures how far away monsters have to be inorder to start coming towards you.

mhl12
06-03-2005, 20:11
low light radius measures how far away monsters have to be inorder to start coming towards you.

i dont think so.. if what u are saying is true, they that means that monsters will start coming towards you earlier when u have more light radius. they why have the mod on items in the first place then?

mathil
06-03-2005, 20:20
im guna agree with mhl12 on the light radius thing. if someone has a flashlight in a dark cave, you can see them coming before they see you. not that the game works the same as real life. it is also easier to program it to make it so the light radius effects you and the monsters range of sight is a constant. and programmers are lazy.

and the build with 0 fcr. you can easily hit the 9 frames breakpoint using only weapon switch.

Shino888
07-03-2005, 23:29
i remember reading the thing about the light radius somewhere on one of the builds though...

but i think ur right abou the fcr...