Trapper's IAS speed question

[2Face]

From the FAQ, I got this:
EIAS Fpa EIAS Fpa
-30 23 0 15
-29 22 8 14
-26 21 15 13
-23 20 24 12
-19 19 34 11
-15 18 47 10
-10 17 61 9
-5 16

I don't really understand how this works. In a runic talon, how much IAS would I need to reach the maximum breakpoint? Also, does this incorporate the IAS from both claws? Or with 1 claw only?

[Naliworld]

The EIAS table is meant for users aiming for a particular frame - not the fastest(e.g. despite the speed cap of Trap laying being 9 frames, a player wants to aim for 10 frames instead due to equipment constraints).

However, if you want to reach the fastest speed, you only need to use the table labelled "%IAS required for 9 frame Trap Laying", in the above part of the post.

With a Runic Talon, any of these four combinations will get you to the fastest speed when Trap-laying:

1) 42% IAS on equipment
2) 11% IAS on equipment + lvl 1 BoS
3) 5% IAS on equipment + lvl 2 BoS
4) Lvl 3+ BoS

As for IAS on the off-hand claw being applied, I'm not sure. To be safe I would assume no.

[2Face]

And I only need 1 claw with IAS correct?

[2Face]

Sorry for the double post, but I asked the wrong question in the post above. What I really wanted to ask was, is it worth it to get the last BP? Or is the 2nd last BP sufficient enough? If so, can someone tell me the second last BP?

[Naliworld]

That's a subjective question, so I really can't answer that well. If you're in PvP, though, you should probably try to get as fast a Trap-laying speed possible, but in PvM I feel being 1 frame slower won't be that bad.

The second last BP is 10 frames. You will need to use the EIAS table(the first one you posted) to find out how much IAS you need to get there.

Using the IAS --> EIAS formula(listed in the "IAS Tables" post, just above the EIAS tables), convert the total amount of IAS you have equipment(doesn't matter where it is, except the 2nd claw) into EIAS and factor it into the table(more EIAS = faster, opposite of WSM).

BoS's bonus is already counted as EIAS, so if you plan on using it, just add the listed (E)IAS bonus of that level into the table.

Also, you need to figure in the WSM of your weapon into these tables. For example, if you have a WSM of 20, that denotes an EIAS penalty of 20 EIAS(in effect, minus off 20 from the EIAS you have from other sources). If you have a WSM of -10, that denotes an EIAS bonus of 10 EIAS(in effect, add 10 to the EIAS you have from other sources). You're using a Runic Talon(-30 WSM), so you have a 30 EIAS bonus.

EDIT: I just remembered that my posts here assume you're using only one claw(the Runic Talon). If you use two different claws, remember to average the WSMs(eg. a Runic Talon with WSM -30 and War Fist with WSM 10 used in tandem would result in an effective WSM of -10, the WSM you should use).

If you need clarification on a part, feel free to ask...

[BIGeyedBUG]

As for IAS on the off-hand claw being applied, I'm not sure. To be safe I would assume no.

That's correct, only primary WIAS is applied.

[QuicksandSlowly]

Ok, let's say I'm using Bartuc's with a Shael in them and I've got lvl 13 Burst of Speed (All from +skills, Sojs, double Bartuc's a +3 shadow amulet and a +3 helm), I'll be hitting that last breakpoint right? lol

[kingwillie]

i dont think IAS would be that useful in PvM but in PvP i think you might wanna consiter it but its extremely important...

and with a level 1 BoS (which can be easily added with plus to skills or prebuffs) it should be easy to reach but the breakpoints.. but then again.. fade is probably more important for both PvM and PvP unless you got some nice equipment

[Naliworld]

Ok, let's say I'm using Bartuc's with a Shael in them and I've got lvl 13 Burst of Speed (All from +skills, Sojs, double Bartuc's a +3 shadow amulet and a +3 helm), I'll be hitting that last breakpoint right? lol

With plenty to spare. You can reduce that BoS level to 3 and still be at the fastest Trap-laying speed.

[turmania]

naliworld: i need your wisdom.
i been trying to work this out but get confused all the time;
if i use bos at lvl 17, and i have no other ias from equipment. and i use hoto(flail) / stormshield.
how much more ias i need to reach the 9fps for trap laying speed?

[Naliworld]

Since the flail has a -10 WSM and you use 17 BoS, you can match up the respective rows and columns in the IAS table topic. With 17 BoS(actually, 16 does the trick as well), you don't need any additional IAS on equipment to hit 7 frames.