View Full Version : Trap damage resolution question, and also max damage possible questions...
semisonic9
27-02-2005, 19:40
So, a normal absorber, without res. lightning aura (if they throw that up I'm coming back with a boner to pwn) would have around 75 res and let's lay 40%+20 absorb....(dual wisps and tgods)
So, a 6k trap would do:
6k / (1/6 pvp penalty)=1k
1k x .25 damage (after resists)= 250
250-(40%+20 absorb) 120 absorb
...so from 6k damage, he'd take 130 and get 120 in health back, for a net damage of 10? Am I doing this right? Is that "resolved" in the correct order?
Also, I've hear people say they have 12k trap damage...how is this possible? With 10 skillers, a maras/enigma/dancers/2xSoJ/Shako/2x+3 to traps setup and an enigma, the skill planner says it tops out at a little over 11k....shown here:
<EDIT by Naliworld: Link deleted>
Plug in 10 for +all skills, (maras=2, shako=2, enigma=2, anni=1, and dual SoJs=2, arachs=1) and +16 to traps (10 skillers and +6 from claws...) and damage is still 11.1k. I know facets and griffon's doesn't help, were they lying or am I missing something?
Also, any good links to this kinda info would be good...I'll add them and not have to ask again. Thanks!
...so from 6k damage, he'd take 130 and get 120 in health back, for a net damage of 10? Am I doing this right? Is that "resolved" in the correct order?
not exacly corect but Ur close enough..
Plug in 10 for +all skills, (maras=2, shako=2, enigma=2, anni=1, and dual SoJs=2, arachs=1) and +16 to traps (10 skillers and +6 from claws...) and damage is still 11.1k. I know facets and griffon's doesn't help, were they lying or am I missing something?
you can have magical amy/diadem with +3 to traps
and claw themself can spawn with 3 to LS
thet is lvl 54 LS aka 12k.
raphiel20
27-02-2005, 23:53
The people could also be using Rainbow facet jewels, which don't work with traps but there's a display bug in-game that shows the trap dmg going up.
Raph
semisonic9
28-02-2005, 00:09
Thanks...so is there any amount of trap damage that will counter medium absorb?
IE, if the guy throws on 2x wisps and a tgods, or a lightsabre and tgods, am I just SOL? Or do I have any chance at all with 10-12k damage?
Naliworld
28-02-2005, 08:25
Please note that links to the the D2 items site are not allowed(includes the link you used), as they sell items for money.
if the guy throws on 2x wisps and a tgods, or a lightsabre and tgods, am I just SOL? Or do I have any chance at all with 10-12k damage?
if he put 2x wisp and thundrergod no dmg will help. aka U gona lose.
with lightsabre and tgod with 10-12k U can win..
if he put 2x wisp and thundrergod no dmg will help. aka U gona lose.
with lightsabre and tgod with 10-12k U can win..
Basically any duel with absorbers is going to be near impossible for your trapper. TGods lets them get 85% resist as well. That extra 10% makes a big difference.
6k / (1/6 pvp penalty)=1k
1k x .25 damage (after resists)= 250
250-(40%+20 absorb) 120 absorb
...so from 6k damage, he'd take 130 and get 120 in health back, for a net damage of 10? Am I doing this right? Is that "resolved" in the correct order?Basically, but I'd put it down like this. I misread, and though you made a mistake the first time. :spy:
6k / (1/6 pvp penalty)=1k (not exact, but close enough with approximation - the actual is *0.17 rather than *1/6)
1k x .25 damage (after resists)= 250
% absorb negates 40%, then heals 40%, so 250 - 250*0.4 - 250*0.4 = 50
Integer absorb (+20) negates 20, and heals 20, so 50 - 20 - 20 = 10
Your opponent would take 10 damage from a 6k attack. Counting in the 0.17 rather than the 1/6, it might be 11 or 12, but as mentioned, it's close to the same.
If you have problems w/ high res chars, shop for a lower resist wand.
They have x75 Lv 2 charges. Lv 2 will lower 37res. Each charge costs 2156gold.
This may not help if they’re stacking really high, but stopping them from using 90 max helps.
semisonic9
28-02-2005, 23:34
Oh, OK, sorry Nailworld...thought that link omitted any "pay for items" sites.
Yeah, the LR wand is a thought...but I already have CTA on switch and plan on filliung up on skillers...Im not one of these guys who likes to Buff, switch weapons all day.
Thanks for the help, guys.
Naliworld
01-03-2005, 04:28
Oh, OK, sorry Nailworld...thought that link omitted any "pay for items" sites.
Yeah, the LR wand is a thought...but I already have CTA on switch and plan on filliung up on skillers...Im not one of these guys who likes to Buff, switch weapons all day.
Thanks for the help, guys.
It is hosted(or at least blatantly linked to the site, so it still counts).
ghostwood
02-03-2005, 23:29
ok... here is my 14K trapper.... :)
1 Leet 3/3 runic talon....1.. 2 os 3/3 claw of swiftness.... +2 circlet... marras, coh, 2 Bk's.. arach.. 10 skillers.. anni.. and cta.. to give one more skill off BC..
And no.. i dont have noob facets...... 14K... takes out most chargers,fohers.
and non aa using ww barbs..... i lose some... but i win more than i lose..
check me out... useastladder....
A-Gunshot...
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